View Full Version : Donald Trump Says Concealed Carry Permit Holders ‘Have an Obligation to Carry’
Team Sergeant
11-19-2015, 08:58
Yes Sir Mr. Presi, I mean Mr. Trump, I'm carrying. (Packing a few extra mags too.....)
Exclusive: Donald Trump Says Concealed Carry Permit Holders ‘Have an Obligation to Carry’
by Michael Patrick Leahy18 Nov 2015
GOP Presidential front runner Donald Trump says the 13 million concealed carry permit holders in the United States have an obligation to carry, “but we must do it in such a way as to raise serious doubts in the minds of those who might be considering violence in America.”
In a statement on concealed carry responsibility released exclusively to Breitbart News Trump says:
There are nearly 13 million concealed carry permit holders in the United States who are part of the 100 million gun owners who defend the Constitutional right to “keep and bear arms.” This fundamental liberty is held closest by those who have gone through the process of vetting required to be entrusted with the ability to defend themselves, their families and their property with concealed weapons.
The concept of concealed carry is as much intended to deter criminal activity as it is to provide direct defense of those who have those permits. Not all concealed carry permit holders “carry” all the time. Thus, the deterrent value is that those who might contemplate criminal behavior will think twice when that doubt exists.
Carrying a weapon is not always feasible or appropriate. However, given the increased tensions that are the result of continued, escalating terrorism around the world, more legitimately armed individuals on the streets is a positive outcome. Each permit holder must make the decision to carry or not carry. I will carry more often than I have in the past, and I am sure other concealed permit holders will do the same. Do we have an obligation to carry? The answer is “yes,” but we must do it in such a way as to raise serious doubts in the minds of those who might be considering violence in America. Deterring violence is far better than dealing with the aftermath of an act of terror. Less blood, more security. That is what will make America great again.
On Saturday, Breitbart News reported that Nashville talk radio show host Ralph Bristol said “concealed carry permit holders have a duty to be armed” in light of the November 13 terrorist attacks in Paris.
Bristol’s statement came in Lebanon, Tennessee during the fifth stop of his “Second Amendment is Homeland Security” tour.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/exclusive-donald-trump-says-concealed-carry-permit-holders-obligation-carry-way-raise-serious-doubts-minds-might-considering-violence/
This guy has is head in the right place. He's an antidote for lib poison.
It's obvious from the way his numbers surged since swapping rhetoric with everybody else after the Paris abomination that people are ready for him.
Trump might just be what we need as the guy to lead us out of the political morass; a "blue-collar billionaire" with the attitude of an old school football coach; he tells it the way it is without mincing words (nuancing).
Might get a TRUMP bumper sticker this week...:lifter
Guymullins
11-20-2015, 05:31
Viewed from the other side of the world, I must say, Trump is saying the right things, but in my humble opinion, he doesn't say them in the right way. He is an impulsive braggart and a self-centred Narcissist. I really don't believe that he is Presidential material, apart from being several city blocks ahead of the present incumbent or Mrs Clinton. I feel that other, more accomplished world leaders will be able to play him like a violin.Surely the Republican Party can do better than this half-baked populist with a virulent I-disease.
craigepo
11-20-2015, 06:19
Guy, we have a lot of conservatives who would make great leaders. Unfortunately, they can't win. Whether it's lack of money, not pretty enough, or some other inane reason.
In the US, Democrat voters will vote for their candidate as long as he has not been found with a dead body. Republicans want their candidate to be 1/2 Ronald Reagan and 1/2 John the Baptist.
Guymullins
11-20-2015, 06:40
Guy, we have a lot of conservatives who would make great leaders. Unfortunately, they can't win. Whether it's lack of money, not pretty enough, or some other inane reason.
In the US, Democrat voters will vote for their candidate as long as he has not been found with a dead body. Republicans want their candidate to be 1/2 Ronald Reagan and 1/2 John the Baptist.
Yeah Craig, I am sure the Donald has enough pull to win the Republican nomination, but I am afraid he won't have enough to convert a handful of those who voted for the Kenyan so as to secure a Republican win in the end. Of course, you fellows know a lot more about your own politics than I do. The days have gone when the choice of American President was something that deeply affected us in SA, so I am not really worried what happens. Its just that the man needs a sharp dose of humility and needs to think more in terms of WE rather than I, or I can foresee some really foolish things happening under his watch.
Viewed from the other side of the world, I must say, Trump is saying the right things, but in my humble opinion, he doesn't say them in the right way. He is an impulsive braggart and a self-centred Narcissist. I really don't believe that he is Presidential material, apart from being several city blocks ahead of the present incumbent or Mrs Clinton. I feel that other, more accomplished world leaders will be able to play him like a violin.Surely the Republican Party can do better than this half-baked populist with a virulent I-disease.
He's definitely rough around the edges, but has brass clangers.
I like him. Doubt if I'm alone; look at the numbers.
Oldrotorhead
11-20-2015, 07:22
Given the choice I'd much rather have Cruz. Trump however would hit DC like a hand grenade in a convent which wouldn't be all bad. Trump may say concealed carry permit holders have an obligation, blah,blah, blah but no one asked him when he last carried. I have the impression he is another one of the "rules are for you and not me" crowd If the choice was Trump or Jebbie I'd choke a little and take Trump.
Trump is very electable, people will vote their fears next year and that will be what sinks the dems.
Trump is very electable, people will vote their fears next year and that will be what sinks the dems.
That's what I'm rappin' 'bout.
Hey, the Country has rolled over and given up it's belly for 7 years.
I'll take Bozo the Clown if he's got a package big enough to stand up against the enemy whether it be commies, turbanterrorists, feminazis, slimeball journalists, spineless pols, hollywoodlanders or border crashers.
It's all right with me if Trump is a crass boor as long as libs hate 'im.
x SF med
11-20-2015, 08:21
The thing I like about Trump is his 'personal responsibility' stance.
Having met him a long time ago in NYC... the rest of him is not very likeable, crass, self centered, boorish, egomaniacal, and standoffish unless you have something he wants. Not sure he'd make a good POTUS... but in the current race, the pickings are slim.
I think Billy, TS, TR, or RL should run on a common sense platform.
The thing I like about Trump is his 'personal responsibility' stance.
Having met him a long time ago in NYC... the rest of him is not very likeable, crass, self centered, boorish, egomaniacal, and standoffish unless you have something he wants. Not sure he'd make a good POTUS... but in the current race, the pickings are slim.
I think Billy, TS, TR, or RL should run on a common sense platform.
I would seriously LOVE to have Billy Waugh in the White House...
frostfire
11-20-2015, 20:04
Republicans want their candidate to be 1/2 Ronald Reagan and 1/2 John the Baptist.
hahahha, you owe me a keyboard!
That's what I'm rappin' 'bout.
Hey, the Country has rolled over and given up it's belly for 7 years.
I'll take Bozo the Clown if he's got a package big enough to stand up against the enemy whether it be commies, turbanterrorists, feminazis, slimeball journalists, spineless pols, hollywoodlanders or border crashers.
It's all right with me if Trump is a crass boor as long as libs hate 'im.
you know...wasn't this the rationale the libs/dems/middle ground use when they elected BHO?
hahahha, you owe me a keyboard!
you know...wasn't this the rationale the libs/dems/middle ground use when they elected BHO?
So? He served two terms behind that rationale.
We seem to be faced with a choice between Hillary or Trump, right now.
Which one do you prefer?
Divemaster
11-21-2015, 05:03
What about all that previous stuff Trump said some years back that was very un-conservative? I never even imagined him as aspiring to be a RINO before this campaign. This all seems very strange. How does he get a pass for the past at a time when Ronald Reagan, by some accounts, wouldn't be conservative enough?
Guymullins
11-21-2015, 07:46
What about all that previous stuff Trump said some years back that was very un-conservative? I never even imagined him as aspiring to be a RINO before this campaign. This all seems very strange. How does he get a pass for the past at a time when Ronald Reagan, by some accounts, wouldn't be conservative enough?
His threats to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination don't fill me with confidence with regard to his principles either. I think he is an amoral opportunist (that doesn't make him worse than Hillary) and his Populist instinct are to say what he believes will benefit him, rather than what will benefit the country. A persona built around the words,"You're fired" doesn't bode well for a mans character.
His threats to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination don't fill me with confidence with regard to his principles either. I think he is an amoral opportunist (that doesn't make him worse than Hillary) and his Populist instinct are to say what he believes will benefit him, rather than what will benefit the country. A persona built around the words,"You're fired" doesn't bode well for a mans character.
Well, a persona built around "hope and change" didn't work so well, nor do I think one built around "what difference does it make" will, either.
I'm willing to try another tack, personally-even from a man who is out to benefit himself-as long as all the Marxist Quislings are expunged from DC.
Freddy Krueger
11-21-2015, 09:08
Personally i like Donald Trump; however I think that if he is elected president he would be a foreign relations nightmare. He has great ideas for our economy and he speaks his mind but you can clearly see in each of the debates that he shows no tact when it comes to the criticism of other candidates and if he takes that attitude to the world stage he would be very polarizing, there would be no "I agree with him sort of.." I believe that he would make a great Secretary of the Treasury or Secretary of Commerce
As for the original topic i truly believe that every American who has gone through the process to obtain a concealed weapon permit should carry at all times that it is legally possible to. CCW is truly a great crime deterrent with proven results time and time again.
Team Sergeant
11-21-2015, 09:26
His threats to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination don't fill me with confidence with regard to his principles either. I think he is an amoral opportunist (that doesn't make him worse than Hillary) and his Populist instinct are to say what he believes will benefit him, rather than what will benefit the country. A persona built around the words,"You're fired" doesn't bode well for a mans character.
You made me laugh. This is what politics is all about in this country, telling the sheeple what they want to hear in order to get elected. Given the current field of idiots I'll take the loudmouth asshole over the corrupt bitch and scumbag socialist every day.
Doesn't really matter, we're (America) headed the way of the dodo. Everything this country was founded on is under attack and we just continue to look the other way.
We're following be right behind Europe in their rapid descent into chaos . Shouldn't take but a few more years in America if a left-wing/socialist takes office again.
RomanCandle
11-22-2015, 15:43
His threats to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination don't fill me with confidence with regard to his principles either. I think he is an amoral opportunist (that doesn't make him worse than Hillary) and his Populist instinct are to say what he believes will benefit him, rather than what will benefit the country. A persona built around the words,"You're fired" doesn't bode well for a mans character.
But there are so many that need firing its a good thing he's got so used to saying it! :D
He states the obvious, the left hates him for it, and so-called conservatives belittle him.
He'll probably win...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/22/trump-doubles-armed-citizenry-prevented-horror-show-paris/
On the November 22 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump doubled down on his defense of the Second Amendment and said an armed citizenry could have prevented the “horror show” in Paris.
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you know...wasn't this the rationale the libs/dems/middle ground use when they elected BHO?
Big difference between the two, one is a community agitator with zero experience in anything and the other is someone who has at least been successful in running his businesses.
I'll never vote for hitlery.
His threats to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination don't fill me with confidence with regard to his principles either. I think he is an amoral opportunist (that doesn't make him worse than Hillary) and his Populist instinct are to say what he believes will benefit him, rather than what will benefit the country. A persona built around the words,"You're fired" doesn't bode well for a mans character.
His threats to run as an Independent were there to keep the Republican powers that be from playing dirty tricks to force him out of the election early (look at the Dem primaries for some good examples of dirty tricks political parties can play to do this.) A lot of the establishment on both sides don't want him in power; as he has mentioned before, he as a politician has too much money to be bought.
FWIW, I tend to use the 2nd amendment as a litmus test to see if politicians are actually serious about their convictions of protecting my rights (if they want to take that away, what other rights are they planning on taking away once I don't have a means to protect my rights?)
Trump has, through his actions, statements, and whitepapers on his website (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights) convinced me that he is the most serious candidate that will protect my 2nd amendment rights. If he manages to do the same thing regards to the 4th amendment rights of people, he will get a large number of swing votes and might just win the whole election.
Also consider that he has essentially locked in the votes of 13 million CCW voters. Across the entire cross-section of CCW holders I know, most are remarkably reliable single-issue voters when it comes to that issue above all else. The chance of getting a president interested in protecting gun rights is too good for many to pass up.
Also, if Trump wins with a gun rights platform, the Dems just might finally take the hint that gun bans need to be taken off the table, forever.