View Full Version : Russia, Syria, United State Problem & The Solution
Team Sergeant
10-06-2015, 13:16
Russia, Syria, United State have a problem, the solution is simple.
Monday, Wednesday & Saturday The United States has the right of way and it's bombers are cleared to drop their ordnance on their selected targets. No Russian flights during this time.
Tuesday, Thursday and Sundays Russia has the right of way and it's bombers are cleared to drop their ordnance on their selected targets. No American flights during this time.
Friday both sides drink beer/vodka, eat pulled pork sandwiches, rest and rearm.
How difficult was that? :munchin
DJ Urbanovsky
10-06-2015, 14:45
I hereby nominate TS for POTUS. :lifter
SouthernDZ
10-06-2015, 15:23
Monday, Wednesday & Saturday The United States has the right of way and it's bombers are cleared to drop their ordnance on their selected targets. No Russian flights during this time.
Unfortunately according to the Pentagon spokesman, 78% of sorties RTB with the racks still full of ordinance.
They can build the finest parking lots on Earth....made of glass.
WarriorDiplomat
10-06-2015, 18:44
This is going to be real bad as far as the balance of power.
Arabs are terrified of Russians and for good reason.
With the CENTCOM intel debacle and the administration tying our hands the Russians are going to go head to head with our inaction and in true brutal Russian fashion they will take few prisoners and speak the language of the Arab culture with a steel fist.
This is the type of chess Russians have been unable to play with stronger Presidents but with Obama he is maneuvering without fear. It is telling that Iraq is welcoming Russia with open arms to take charge of this situation. How could our President not see this coming and not be concerned with the future?
Our administration won't let our guys on the ground do anything cross border but does anyone think that the SPETZNATZ aren't going to put boots in Syria?? or the Infantry?
Our administration put us in a a situation starting with the withdrawal to watch the Russians clean up the mess we couldn't.
Is this the start of our enemies bullying their way into all our AO's because our leader stands by and sings and prepares yet another speech?
Team Sergeant
10-07-2015, 09:26
This is going to be real bad as far as the balance of power.
Arabs are terrified of Russians and for good reason.
With the CENTCOM intel debacle and the administration tying our hands the Russians are going to go head to head with our inaction and in true brutal Russian fashion they will take few prisoners and speak the language of the Arab culture with a steel fist.
This is the type of chess Russians have been unable to play with stronger Presidents but with Obama he is maneuvering without fear. It is telling that Iraq is welcoming Russia with open arms to take charge of this situation. How could our President not see this coming and not be concerned with the future?
Our administration won't let our guys on the ground do anything cross border but does anyone think that the SPETZNATZ aren't going to put boots in Syria?? or the Infantry?
Our administration put us in a a situation starting with the withdrawal to watch the Russians clean up the mess we couldn't.
Is this the start of our enemies bullying their way into all our AO's because our leader stands by and sings and prepares yet another speech?
I don't know, the Russians have sided with the shias and we has sided with the sunnis. I for one am cheering the Russians this time as they have picked the right side of the fight.
Personally I hope they kill every last sunni in the Middle East. Shias can be controlled, sunnis, only way to control them is to kill them. The Russians understand this very well.
WarriorDiplomat
10-07-2015, 14:59
I don't know, the Russians have sided with the shias and we has sided with the sunnis. I for one am cheering the Russians this time as they have picked the right side of the fight.
Personally I hope they kill every last sunni in the Middle East. Shias can be controlled, sunnis, only way to control them is to kill them. The Russians understand this very well.
I am giggling now thinking about ISIS being handled the Russian way their faith will be tested.
But.....the US is seen as a powerhouse the most powerful military in the world. If the Russians do what Russians do and ISIS goes to its knees begging for mercy and they do it in short order what will our enemies think of our military might then?
Diplomacy fails if the might of a strong military doesn't back it.
Based on the follow two article's, imo, policy unity is lost on Obama, as a sunni mooslim he is require to be an obstructionist, which can be exampled and argued based on his ROI and these recent reports of fractures in the cause.
https://www.rt.com/news/317983-russia-us-coalition-isis/
‘Which side are you fighting for?’ Russia blasts US for refusing to share intel on ISIS
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/317926-syria-russia-isis-terror/
‘We need all-pervasive strategy against ISIS involving everyone’...”to include Russia” – Admiral Alan West
TS, in full agreement with your position.
I don't know, the Russians have sided with the shias and we has sided with the sunnis. I for one am cheering the Russians this time as they have picked the right side of the fight.
Personally I hope they kill every last sunni in the Middle East. Shias can be controlled, sunnis, only way to control them is to kill them. The Russians understand this very well.
frostfire
10-11-2015, 01:50
and the plot thickens
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/09/syrian-kurdish-leader-moscow-wants-to-work-with-us?int=af8409
Nations don't have friends, just interests.
IMHO, siding with the Kurds will hurt in the short run, but pay dividends in the long run
Not sure how well the US has been able to control the Shia with all the bad blood with hezbollah, Imad Mughniyah assasination, and so it goes...
SouthernDZ
10-11-2015, 08:00
IMHO, siding with the Kurds will hurt in the short run, but pay dividends in the long run
I suspect our unwillingness to properly arm and support the Kurds is directly tied to an agreement with Turkey. The Kurds have already been sold out.....again.
Team Sergeant
10-11-2015, 08:25
I suspect our unwillingness to properly arm and support the Kurds is directly tied to an agreement with Turkey. The Kurds have already been sold out.....again.
Agree.
We've sold out the Kurds one too many times and only because we side with the sunni Turks.
The United States needs to end ties with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan Turkey, Egypt etc. Where ever there is a sunni dominance we need to cut those ties.
We can control the shia population.
BrokenSwitch
10-13-2015, 02:43
Artillery hits Russian embassy in Damascus.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/2-rockets-hit-russian-embassy-in-damascus-report-1231550
https://www.rt.com/news/318479-russia-embassy-damascus-mortar/
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/rockets-hit-russian-embassy-syria-afp-650323
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/201812
... apparently not the first time. This is from a month ago.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/russia-decries-shelling-embassy-syria-150921160048570.html
Team Sergeant
10-13-2015, 06:03
The Pentagon stole my idea..... just send ammo, lots of ammo and stand back and watch. ;)
US military airdrops 50 tons of ammo for Syrian fighters, after training mission ends
By Lucas Tomlinson
·Published October 12, 2015
·FoxNews.com
The U.S. military airdropped 50 tons of small arms ammo and grenades in northern Syria on Sunday, a senior defense official told Fox News, representing the Pentagon's shift from training rebel fighters to equipping them.
cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/12/us-military-airdrops-50-tons-ammo-for-syrian-fighters-after-training-mission/
craigepo
10-13-2015, 08:15
The Pentagon stole my idea..... just send ammo, lots of ammo and stand back and watch. ;)
US military airdrops 50 tons of ammo for Syrian fighters, after training mission ends
By Lucas Tomlinson
·Published October 12, 2015
·FoxNews.com
The U.S. military airdropped 50 tons of small arms ammo and grenades in northern Syria on Sunday, a senior defense official told Fox News, representing the Pentagon's shift from training rebel fighters to equipping them.
cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/12/us-military-airdrops-50-tons-ammo-for-syrian-fighters-after-training-mission/
I'm not sure if this is crazy or genius. Seems like a region that is full of people I wouldn't trust.
mark46th
10-13-2015, 09:34
The government should have taken the 50 tons of ammo and given it to the refugees as they are returned to Syria. As each refugee gets off the plane, giive them an AK47, a case of ammo and tell them to fix their own problems instead of becoming a problem over here...
RomanCandle
10-13-2015, 15:19
I'm not sure if this is crazy or genius. Seems like a region that is full of people I wouldn't trust.
I'd say that it amounts to a war crime. I trust they remembered to include a few thousand ka-bars in the airdrop.
You guys should also be concerned because those weapons will get used against your troops one day when they get sent back into that area to try and contain those particular terrorists and their successors. Today the Syrians will pay the price but there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth when this act of madness comes home to roost.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3266509/US-scraps-500million-programme-train-moderate-Syrian-rebels-producing-fewer-80-soldiers-shot-ran-away.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11247798/Syrian-Christians-Help-us-to-stay-stop-arming-terrorists.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/20/kuhner-how-obama-arms-al-qaeda/
BrokenSwitch
10-18-2015, 08:49
Russia is supporting Hezbollah.
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.il/2015/10/icymi-russia-intercepts-israeli-jets-on.html
:munchin
Russia is supporting Hezbollah.
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.il/2015/10/icymi-russia-intercepts-israeli-jets-on.html
:munchin
No what that told me was Russia is controlling Syrian airspace and told IDF aircraft to stay out. It also said that when they were told to stay out the IDF AC were on an Intel mission to gain Intel on Hezbollah.
If you wish to prove this viewpoint provide credible linkage.
Russia is there to prop up Asad...
Team Sergeant
10-18-2015, 10:28
No what that told me was Russia is controlling Syrian airspace and told IDF aircraft to stay out. It also said that when they were told to stay out the IDF AC were on an Intel mission to gain Intel on Hezbollah.
If you wish to prove this viewpoint provide credible linkage.
Russia is there to prop up Asad...
Russia is there to kill sunni's, muslim brotherhood , isis ect. They are doing the right thing, the United States is supporting the wrong muslim tribe.
I'd be sending Russia all the intel I could in regards to sunni muslim locations. :munchin
GratefulCitizen
10-18-2015, 10:35
One big furball.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/06/syrian_conflict_relationships_explained.html
No what that told me was Russia is controlling Syrian airspace and told IDF aircraft to stay out. It also said that when they were told to stay out the IDF AC were on an Intel mission to gain Intel on Hezbollah.
If you wish to prove this viewpoint provide credible linkage.
Russia is there to prop up Asad...
I didn't bother reading the article as I see the "articles" every day.
The Syrian Coalition:
Russia
China
Iran, IRGC-QF and MOIS (in Syria and Iraq)
Hezballah (in Syria and parts of Iraq)
And soon North Korea.
This administration has its head so far up its "gotta build a legacy before the term is up" ass it has partnered up with designated terrorist organizations to defeat the ISBS.
Read his link.... That was what I was commenting on.
I know the big picture for the region unlike our current administration.
TS I agree.....
WarriorDiplomat
10-19-2015, 11:05
How long will it be before resource rich nations choose to reduce the U.S. footprint and increase the new "coalition" footprint and change the balance of power of the planet when it comes to economic trade, sanctions, tariffs and resource allocation, rites and control. States have no power without resources, states have no ability to build weapons and sustain it's military without the strategic partnerships critical to its existence. A country must produce to have trade value we have little as we are a country of consumers our production is done through surrogates in these countries we are partnered with.
Russia and China both lack the economics to exploit and capitalize what they have in spades. Neither one can field the military they have the way we can, neither one has the ability to put naval fleets to strategically cruise the seas like we can or develop the technology on our level there is little economic incentive to keep the greatest scientist in their own countries when the U.S. is ready and willing to protect and reward it. Russia has flexed it's resource power when it told Merkel that sanctions against them will result in no natural gas to the EU.
These guys do what our administration lacks the will to do, our position will weaken severely and watch us brought to our knees and forced to capitulate against OUR best interests.
Team Sergeant
11-18-2015, 15:33
Russia, Syria, United State have a problem, the solution is simple.
Monday, Wednesday & Saturday The United States has the right of way and it's bombers are cleared to drop their ordnance on their selected targets. No Russian flights during this time.
Tuesday, Thursday and Sundays Russia has the right of way and it's bombers are cleared to drop their ordnance on their selected targets. No American flights during this time.
Friday both sides drink beer/vodka, eat pulled pork sandwiches, rest and rearm.
How difficult was that? :munchin
I quote myself...... ;)
Well we now know, the governments of Russia and the United States have be reading Professionalsoldiers.com. But, in an effort not to give the credit for world peace to me.... they changed my plan to a "day night" schedule.
You're welcome.
(I just bumped my speaking fee up from $35 to $250,000, (plus per diem).
Russians strike ISIS during the day, US and France strike at night
By Lucas Tomlinson
·Published November 18, 2015
·FoxNews.com
Long-range Russian supersonic bombers carried out more daylight strikes against the Islamic State in Syria early Wednesday according to a senior defense official briefed on the latest intelligence from the region.
Russia’s use of large bombers marks the first time this type of aircraft has flown against ISIS. Since Russian airstrikes began in Syria on Sept. 30, the Russians have preferred to strike during the daytime, while the U.S. military and French launch their strikes under the cover of darkness at night.
“This is one of the reasons, why de-confliction is not really needed at this time,” said a U.S. official monitoring the Russian strikes. “The Russians are bombing during the daytime, the [U.S.-led coalition] is bombing at night.”
The large supersonic Russian bombers, which included Tu-22M Backfire and Tu-160 Blackjack bombers, flew from airbases bases in Mozdok and Engels, Russia. Older Tu-95 Bear bombers also flew out of Engels.
The Russian bombers which flew from Engels launched cruise missiles against the Islamic State from a position over Iran, according to a U.S. official.
Mozdok is located in southern Russian near Georgia and Azerbaijan. Engels, named after the co-founder of Marxist theory, German philosopher Friedrich Engels, is located north of the Caspian Sea, 115 miles from neighboring Kazakhstan.
Each Backfire bomber is capable of dropping nearly 70 unguided 500-pound bombs at a time. A bomb damage assessment is currently underway, but at this time it is unclear if the Russian strikes have been successful in killing large numbers of ISIS fighters.
Throughout their air campaign, the Russians have been bombing ISIS using un-guided “dumb” bombs, which require daylight hours to have any chance of successfully hitting a target, according to a U.S. military pilot.
Many senior military and administration officials have said the fight against the Islamic State could take years. Over the summer, the Army’s outgoing top general said defeating ISIS would take 10-20 years.
Not so, according to retired Air Force General David Deptula, who was responsible for directing the air war over Afghanistan in 2001 and led efforts to enforce Iraq’s “no-fly zones” in the 1990s.
“You keep on hearing people including the president saying, 'This is going to take a long time.' It's only going to take a long time if you want it to take a long time. We have it within our capacity to shut down the effectiveness of the Islamic State in a very short period of time--in a matter of weeks and not years,” said Deptula.
Before the Paris attacks, President Obama called ISIS largely contained. His former Defense Secretary, Leon Panetta, seems to disagree.
“It isn’t about containment. It is about defeating ISIS. I think if there’s anything we ought to understand from these last events, it’s that we have to go to war against this brutal enemy,” said Panetta in an exclusive interview with Fox News’ Neil Cavuto Tuesday.
Panetta later echoed French President Francois Hollande calling the Paris attacks “acts of war."
Russian president Vladimir Putin spoke by phone Wednesday with Egyptian President Abdul Fattah el-Sisi and agreed to improve airline security between the two countries, according to a statement from the Kremlin, in a sign of growing cooperation against terrorism between the two countries following the downing of a Russian airliner in Egypt’s Sinai killing all 224 people onboard.
Russia’s FSB security service said it was certain a bomb took down the plane. ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/18/russians-strike-isis-during-day-us-and-france-at-night/?intcmp=hpbt1