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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html
The Reaper
08-21-2015, 16:03
Absolutely.
Bravo Zulu, Americans.
TR
Well done, Americans! Will the wounded servicemen be eligible for a PH? It's called the GWOT.
Pat
Bravo Zulu Marines !!!!! :lifter :lifter :lifter
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For searching purposes ...
Terrorist attack on French train
Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack onboard high-speed train between Amsterdam and Paris after they take down Kalashnikov-wielding Moroccan gunman known to intelligence services
A suspected Moroccan terrorist opened fire with a Kalashnikov on board a high speed train in northern France
Eyewitnesses said two U.S. Marines on the train disarmed the 26-year-old gunman and pinned him to the ground
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve praised the Marines who almost certainly 'averted a disaster'
The gunman is understood to have boarded the train, which had more than 500 passengers, in Brussels, Belgium
blacksmoke
08-21-2015, 17:03
!!! Some good news for a change.
Great News
Well done Marines
Just heard on the radio that they may have heard him load and charge the AK and were waiting for him.
Pat
Golf1echo
08-21-2015, 17:29
Excellent work, it looks like he bounced his face off the ground too, how clumsy of him :D:lifter:lifter
YM Cating
08-21-2015, 18:38
That's some serious situational awareness right there. Well done!!!
Can they get purple hearts and combat action ribbons for this? Well, I hope they get something for their bravery, they sure as hell deserve it!
oorah Marines!
Two unarmed Marines and one AK wielding dirtbag...not a fair fight. :lifter
"The two unarmed servicemen spotted the 26-year-old Moroccan acting suspiciously and heard him trying to arm his weapon in the toilet of the high speed train between Amsterdam and Paris."
"The suspected terrorist had at least nine full magazines of ammunition holding almost 300 rounds. He was also carrying a knife."
I couldn't be more proud of those guys. I have a bunch of Belgian clients and I've had two "attaboys" emailed to me. They were extending thanks to all of the U.S.
Outstanding job, my Brothers!
Prayers out for a complete and speedy recovery!
TrapLine
08-21-2015, 21:32
Well done, Marines!:lifter
Now they are saying an Air Force reservist was stabled and looks to be recovering well.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/22/us-france-train-shots-idUSKCN0QQ20J20150822
UWOA (RIP)
08-22-2015, 08:12
The newsies today are saying that they were National Guard from Oregon. Somebody needs to pin this down ... these guys did a fantastic job! Gives new meaning to the term 'foreign aid'.
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The newsies today are saying that they were National Guard from Oregon. Somebody needs to pin this down ... these guys did a fantastic job! Gives new meaning to the term 'foreign aid'.
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Marines, National Guard ... what's the diff?
The headlines should be saying .... Americans save French asses again. Like they've been doing since 1917. :D
UWOA (RIP)
08-22-2015, 08:41
Marines, National Guard ... what's the diff?
The headlines should be saying .... Americans save French asses again. Like they've been doing since 1917. :D
Because the devil is in the details ... and I'd like to know ... and because if it was 'home-grown' National Guard it becomes a noteworthy effect of ensuring that every soldier, even those who were once derided as 'weekend warriors' have the skill set and the situational awareness to act when required. It's about giving credit where credit is due.
Foreign aid or 'save French asses' is like saying po-tay-toe, po-taa-toe. Must have broken your humor-us, sic humerus, with that one ....
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Because the devil is in the details ... and I'd like to know ... and because if it was 'home-grown' National Guard it becomes a noteworthy effect of ensuring that every soldier, even those who were once derided as 'weekend warriors' have the skill set and the situational awareness to act when required. It's about giving credit where credit is due.
Foreign aid or 'save French asses' is like saying po-tay-toe, po-taa-toe. Must have broken your humor-us, sic humerus, with that one ....
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No, nothing broken ... just didn't have any coffee in my system.
Here's an update along with video of an interview with two of the now reported three Americans.
Train gunman traveled to Syria, Spanish officials say
A young Moroccan subdued by three Americans as he was apparently preparing to open fire inside a high-speed train en route to Paris had recently lived in Spain and had traveled to Syria, a Spanish official said Saturday.
An official linked to Spain's anti-terrorism unit said the suspect lived in Spain until 2014, then moved to France, before traveling to Syria, and later returning to France, the Associated Press reported. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to be identified by name.
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the suspect may be a 26-year-old Moroccan flagged by Spanish authorities last year for links to Islamic extremist movements, but he said the identity had not yet been 100% confirmed.
Air Force serviceman Spencer Stone — one of the three Americans who took down the shooter — remained hospitalized Saturday after being stabbed in the attack Friday night as the train travelled through Belgium from Amsterdam. The Pentagon said the injury was not life-threatening.
"These men are heroes. Actions like this clearly illustrate the courage and commitment our young men and women have all the time, whether they are on duty or on leave," said Gen. Philip Breedlove, Commander of the U.S. European Command. "We are extremely proud of their efforts and now are praying for our injured airman to have a speedy recovery."
A dual French-American citizen was also wounded when he was hit by a gunshot on the train, which eventually stopped in Arras, about 115 miles north of Paris, Cazeneuve said. The suspected gunman was then arrested.
Anthony Sadler, a senior at Sacramento State University, was traveling with childhood friends Stone, of Carmichael, Calif., and Alek Skarlatos, a National Guardsman from Roseburg, Ore., when they heard a gunshot and breaking glass. Sadler told the AP that they saw a train employee sprint down the aisle followed by a gunman with an automatic rifle.
"As he was cocking it to shoot it, Alek just yells, 'Spencer, go!' And Spencer runs down the aisle," Sadler said. "Spencer makes first contact, he tackles the guy, Alek wrestles the gun away from him, and the gunman pulls out a boxcutter and slices Spencer a few times. And the three of us beat him until he was unconscious."
British passenger Chris Norman told French television that he helped tie the gunman up. Stone then quickly turned to help another passenger who had been wounded in the throat, stopping his bleeding until paramedics arrived, Sadler said.
Throughout the brief but terrifying episode, Sadler said, "The gunman never said a word."
Cazeneuve, who arrived on the scene late Friday, denounced the "barbaric act." He praised the "two deserving passengers" for their "great bravery and composure," the newspaper said.
A Pentagon spokeswoman confirmed that one U.S. military member was injured in the incident. President Obama, updated on the attack Friday evening, "expressed his profound gratitude for the courage and quick thinking of several passengers, including U.S. service members, who selflessly subdued the attacker," a White House official said. "It is clear that their heroic actions may have prevented a far worse tragedy."
Video here ----> http://www.9news.com/story/news/world/2015/08/22/train-gunman-traveled-syria-spanish-officials-say/32188943/
Here's some more information ...
Americans, French national tackle, overpower suspected Islamist gunman on train
The struggle was brief, bloody and chaotic.
The high-speed train was zipping from Amsterdam to Paris on Friday when a shirtless man emerged from the bathroom -- a rifle slung over his shoulder, witnesses said.
A French passenger and three Americans -- a civilian, an Air Force member and a National Guard member -- jumped into action. They quickly tackled him, possibly averting a massacre aboard the train.
By the time the suspect was subdued, three people had nonlife-threatening injuries, said Anthony Blondeau, a spokesman for Arras city in northern France, where the train pulled up after the incident and the suspect was arrested. One of the Americans was among the injured.
Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said Saturday in Paris that the Frenchman was the first to intervene, followed quickly by the Americans.
The identity of the suspect is not yet fully established, but he could be a man of Moroccan origin, who lived in Spain in 2014 and Belgium in 2015 and had ties to radical Islam, according to Cazeneuve.
The suspected attacker was armed with a Kalashnikov assault weapon, nine chargers, a Luger automatic pistol, a 9mm charger and a box cutter, the minister said.
A "French passenger tried courageously to overpower him before the suspect fired several shots, then two American passengers intervened and managed to overpower the shooter, immobilized him on the ground and put aside his weaponry," Cazeneuve said.
A senior European counterterrorism official told CNN terrorism analyst Paul Cruickshank that the suspect was linked to Belgian investigations into radical Islamist networks. The official said Belgian authorities are looking into whether the suspected gunman traveled to Syria.
'My friend yells, 'Get him!'
The three American men were traveling together when they heard shattering glass and people running, said Peter Skarlatos, the brother of Alek Skarlatos, one of the men who tackled the suspect.
They saw the gunman and decided to confront him, he said.
The three Americans were on a European vacation.
"My friend Alek Skarlatos yells, 'Get him!,' so my friend Spencer Stone immediately gets up to charge the guy, followed by Alek, then myself," said Anthony Sadler, the civilian among the three. Stone is an Air Force member while Skarlatos is in the National Guard.
"The three of us beat up the guy," Sadler said. "In the process, Spencer gets slashed multiple times by the box cutter, and Alek takes the AK away."
Skarlatos seized the rifle and hit the suspect in the head with the muzzle.
"I begin to tie him up with help from Chris, another passenger," Sadler said. "I notice a man had his throat cut at which (time) Spencer begins to apply pressure to the neck wound before he bled out."
Spencer had injuries in the head and neck, and almost had his thumb cut off, according to Peter Skarlatos.
Stone and Sadler live in Sacramento, California, while Skarlatos is from Roseburg, Oregon.
Skarlatos had joined his friends on a European vacation after returning from Afghanistan.
A British man, Chris Norman, was in the same train carriage and helped to restrain the attacker after Stone, Sadler and Skarlatos leaped to tackle him.
Norman told a news conference he felt "relief that nobody actually got killed," adding there was no question that "it could have been a real carnage."
Continued here ---> http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/europe/france-train-shooting-americans-overpower/index.html
Badger52
08-22-2015, 09:40
Well done. Apparently (and very fortunately) some weren't completely indoctrinated from their "active shooter" card.
If I ever meet any of 'em, their beer money's no good.
The Reaper
08-22-2015, 11:26
Several stories are now claiming that the train's crew locked themselves into a compartment and hid during the attack.
I guess it is a good thing some American men were on board.
TR
Several stories are now claiming that the train's crew locked themselves into a compartment and hid during the attack.
I guess it is a good thing some American men were on board.
TR
But of course mom ami,, Qu'attendez-vous
:D
UWOA (RIP)
08-22-2015, 13:52
Several stories are now claiming that the train's crew locked themselves into a compartment and hid during the attack.
I guess it is a good thing some American men were on board.
TR
Read that, too. Not only did they not help in meeting the threat, but by locking the doors the stewards would have complicated rendering first aid to the wounded. Fortunately, the Americans were there to provide that also ....
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Bleed Green
08-22-2015, 14:12
Skarlatos seized the rifle and hit the suspect in the head with the muzzle.
Just remember one thing when this douchebag finds a lawyer to sue for the beating. Smile and say that you used the AK-47 as a non-lethal impact tool. :p
"On behalf of all the men and women of the Department of Defense, I want to thank the brave individuals, including two members of the U.S. military, who stepped forward to prevent an even greater tragedy from taking place aboard that train. My thoughts and prayers today are with those injured in the attack, including Airman First Class Spencer Stone whose selfless actions saved lives. I wish him a speedy recovery. Airman Stone and Specialist Alex Skarlatos are two reasons why - on duty and off - ours is the finest fighting force the world has ever known."
"Airman First Class Stone is currently being treated in a French medical facility with non-life threatening injuries."
So very well done! Just goes to show that brave American military men are still "on the job" even when they are on leave. :lifter
Team Sergeant
08-22-2015, 16:19
I had tears in my eyes from laughing when I read this......;)
Well done men! Well done.
France train shooting: US soldiers speak of the moment they stopped gunman and 'beat him until he was unconscious'
Rose Troup Buchanan Author Biography
Saturday 22 August 2015
A US soldier has spoken of the moment he and a childhood friend prevented a gunman from opening fire on a passenger train from Amsterdam to northern France.
Alek Skarlatos, on holiday in Europe with fellow serviceman Spencer Stone and student Anthony Sadler, said he and his companions heard a gunshot and breaking glass while on their Thalys train at around 3.45pm on Friday.
“I saw a guy entering the carriage with an AK and a handgun, at that point I ducked down and my friend Spencer, next to me, ducked down and I just looked over at Spencer and said: ‘Let’s go’,” Mr Skalatos told Sky News from his hotel room in Arras, northern France.
The 22-year-old National Guardsman from Rosenburg, Oregan, and Mr Stone charged the unidentified 26-year-old man, believed to be of Moroccan origin, down the narrow carriage.
"Then I grabbed the AK (assault rifle), which was at his feet, and started muzzle thumping him in the head with it," Mr Skarlatos added.
READ MORE: • Three injured after gunman opens fire on Amsterdam to Paris train
Mr Sadler, a senior at Sacramento State University, told The Associated Press of his friends' exploits: "Spencer makes first contact, he tackles the guy, Alek wrestles the gun away from him, and the gunman pulls out a boxcutter and slices Spencer a few times.
And the three of us beat him until he was unconscious.
"The gunman never said a word."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-train-shooting-us-soldiers-speak-of-the-moment-they-stopped-gunman-and-beat-him-until-he-was-unconscious-10466861.html
Mr Sadler, a senior at Sacramento State University...
Sac State. Took me a year there to lose my 2S and get drafted. ;)
Well done, young Hortnet!
Richard
Badger52
08-22-2015, 18:03
I had tears in my eyes from laughing when I read this......;)
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"Then I grabbed the AK (assault rifle), which was at his feet, and started muzzle thumping him in the head with it," Mr Skarlatos added.Indeed TS. Now you guys over in the base FP divisions handing out your active shooter cards & checking attendance & tossing your PPT metrics up the chain take note of the new "technical term" highlighted above.
"On behalf of all the men and women of the Department of Defense, I want to thank the brave individuals, including two members of the U.S. military, who stepped forward to prevent an even greater tragedy from taking place aboard that train. My thoughts and prayers today are with those injured in the attack, including Airman First Class Spencer Stone whose selfless actions saved lives. I wish him a speedy recovery. Airman Stone and Specialist Alex Skarlatos are two reasons why - on duty and off - ours is the finest fighting force the world has ever known."Meanwhile, Mr. Policy Wonk SECDEF, you have a fine Soldier's career being ruined because he threw a child-rapist to the ground... kind of epitomizes a WTF moment, eh Ash?
Airmans Medal or Silver Star? We are at war.
Airmans Medal or Silver Star? We are at war.
With this current administration ?!?!?!
HA !!!!!
They're lucky they got an "attaboy" from the SECDEF.
Airmans Medal or Silver Star? We are at war.
Down-graded to a GO LOR after a risk assessment eval... :rolleyes:
Richard
frostfire
08-23-2015, 01:13
outfreakinstanding to the brave souls who rose to the challenge!
Thank heavens the POS has no training in FTF IAD...300 rounds and cooped up passengers:eek:
:D :D :D
Airman, Guardsman Heroically Subdue Media Interest In Female Army Rangers
Lee Ho Fuk, DB, 23 Aug 2015
PARIS, France — Two American servicemen are being hailed after they subdued media interest in female Army Rangers, sources confirmed today. A civilian who also participated is being widely disregarded.
Sr. Airman Spencer Stone and Oregon National Guard Spc. Alek Skarlatos acted swiftly to move the news cycle along after it remained stagnant on the topic of women in combat for more than week, by tackling a man who apparently opened fire on a high speed train in France.
“We knew it was time for action,” said Stone. “We had to do something before everyone forgot there were men in the armed forces at all.”
The story has virtually eclipsed any mention of two Army officers who will be the first women to do things other women haven’t done before, or something.
The female soldier’s accomplishment comes in the same week as an announcement by top Navy leaders that the service plans to open its elite SEAL teams to wo- HOLY CRAP AMERICANS ARE STOMPING THE DOG SHIT OUT OF A TERRORIST ON A TRAIN!
http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/08/service-men-subdue-media-interest-female-rangers/#ixzz3je3tzQcy
Richard
I don't think anyone of these three, will ever have to pay for a drink again. :lifter
US airman says train attacker 'ready to fight to the end'
PARIS (AP) — His arm in a sling, U.S. airman Spencer Stone recounted Sunday how he and two other Americans tackled a gunman on a high-speed train in Europe, saying the attacker "seemed like he was ready to fight to the end." But he added:"So were we."
Stone, 23, said he was awakened from a deep sleep, and turned around to see a man holding an assault rifle and that it "looked like it was jammed and it wasn't working."
One of his friends "just hit me on the shoulder and said 'Let's go,'" before moving in to tackle the gunman.
In his first remarks since Friday's attack on an Amsterdam-to-Paris train, Stone said he and his friends took down the gunman before choking him unconscious.
"He seemed like he was ready to fight to the end," Stone said. "So were we." :lifter
Stone, of Carmichael, California, spoke at a live news conference at the U.S. ambassador's residence in Paris along with Anthony Sadler, 23, a senior at Sacramento State University in California, and National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos, 22, of Roseburg, Oregon.
The gunman, identified as 26-year-old Moroccan Ayoub El-Khazzani, is detained and being questioned by French police outside Paris. He was subdued by the Americans while the train was traveling through Belgium, but was taken into custody in France after the train was rerouted to the northern French town of Arras.
Authorities say El-Khazzani is an Islamic extremist who spent time in Syria, while his lawyer said he was homeless and trying to rob the train. <--- Riiiiight :rolleyes:
Despite being known to intelligence services in France, Spain and Belgium, he boarded an Amsterdam-to-Paris train on Friday as it stopped in Brussels, carrying a small arsenal of weapons, including a Kalashnikov, an automatic Luger pistol and a box cutter.
Stone is hailed not only for being the first to grapple with the attacker, but for helping to stop the bleeding in a French-American passenger wounded by a bullet.
Stone, wearing a sling on his left arm, was wounded in the attack and said he will receive further medical treatment in Germany.
Stone said the attacker kept pulling out weapons from his bag, and that he was stabbed in the neck and sliced on his hand. Stone said his thumb was reattached during his hospital stay in Lille. He thanked the French doctors, police officers and others.
Skarlatos said military training played a part in subduing the gunman.
"In the beginning it was mostly gut instinct, survival," he said. "Our training kicked in after the struggle."
Authorities in Spain said El-Khazzani had lived in the country until last year and had a police record for drug-dealing.
Officials didn't disclose a possible motive for the attack, but French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said Spanish authorities had notified French intelligence about the suspect because he belongs to a "radical Islamist movement."
U.S. Ambassador Jane Hartley praised the three Americans, calling them heroes.
"We often use the word hero and in this case I know that word has never been more appropriate," Hartley said.
"They are truly heroes. When most of us would run away, Spencer, Alek and Anthony ran into the line of fire, saying 'Let's go.' Those words changed the fate of many."
http://news.yahoo.com/man-tackled-train-authorities-radar-3-countries-040337388.html#
My apologies for the interjection here gentlemen, but this has me with tears in my eyes laughing. Rob the train? With an arsenal he just picked up from some other homeless guy no doubt. Cuz all that stuff is just lying around in the streets of Europe like mana.:rolleyes:
These three are getting a lot of local press here in the area because they're long-time friends from the Carmichael area of Sacramento.
Richard
ddoering
08-24-2015, 03:54
As they should be. I hope that when they get home they get all the drinks and pussy they can handle.
BBC report - more good news.
Three Americans and a Briton who foiled a suspected terror attack on a train have received France's top honour from President Francois Hollande.
Mr Hollande presented Spencer Stone, Alek Skarlatos, Anthony Sadler and Briton Chris Norman with the Legion d'honneur at the Elysee Palace.
Two other unnamed passengers will receive the honour at a later date.
The passengers overpowered a suspected radical Islamist on a high-speed train bound for Paris on Friday.
Mr Hollande pinned medals on the chests of the four passengers at a ceremony in Paris on Monday morning.
ETA the words of the French President that 'bout sums it up nicely.
"We are here to honour four men who, thanks to their bravery, managed to save lives," he said.
"In the name of France, I would like to thank you. The whole world admires your bravery. It should be an example to all of us and inspire us. You put your lives at risk in order to defend freedom."
French authorities are questioning the suspect, 25-year-old Moroccan Ayoub El-Khazzani.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34037580
BBC report - more good news.
French authorities are questioning the suspect, 25-year-old Moroccan Ayoub El-Khazzani by pinning other things to his chest...
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Badger52
08-24-2015, 12:02
. :munchinEven the old 20Hz ringdown from a TA-312 can be useful.
The Reaper
08-26-2015, 09:06
Saw on the TV earlier this morning an interview with the wife of the only guy who was shot.
She said she heard the gunshot and her husband hit, and all she heard after that was an American voice that said, "Fuck this shit," and they waded in on the shooter's punk ass.
She said that she couldn't believe how the American who had his thumb nearly cut off reached into her husband's badly bleeding gunshot wound, stopped the bleeding, and then kept talking and reassuring the guy that he was going to be okay until help arrived.
Prouder than ever to be an American.
TR
Badger52
08-26-2015, 09:45
...all she heard after that was an American voice that said, "Fuck this shit," Screw Facebook. That's the kind of thing that needs to continue "trending".
:cool:
Team Sergeant
08-26-2015, 10:11
Saw on the TV earlier this morning an interview with the wife of the only guy who was shot.
She said she heard the gunshot and her husband hit, and all she heard after that was an American voice that said, "Fuck this shit," and they waded in on the shooter's punk ass.
She said that she couldn't believe how the American who had his thumb nearly cut off reached into her husband's badly bleeding gunshot wound, stopped the bleeding, and then kept talking and reassuring the guy that he was going to be okay until help arrived.
Prouder than ever to be an American.
TR
What's even better is knowing that the younger generation will not abide these sort of islamic punk terrorists either.
Saw on the TV earlier this morning an interview with the wife of the only guy who was shot.
She said she heard the gunshot and her husband hit, and all she heard after that was an American voice that said, "Fuck this shit," and they waded in on the shooter's punk ass.
She said that she couldn't believe how the American who had his thumb nearly cut off reached into her husband's badly bleeding gunshot wound, stopped the bleeding, and then kept talking and reassuring the guy that he was going to be okay until help arrived.
Prouder than ever to be an American.
TR
What's even better is knowing that the younger generation will not abide these sort of islamic punk terrorists either.
... and to add to TS's post ...
That from ALL the interviews I've seen of these young warriors, they refered to the attacker as what exactly he was/is ... A TERRORIST.
They didn't sugar coat it for the PC crowd or followed Barry's mantra about them/him being misunderstood, no, they called him for what he was/is ... A FVCKING TERRORIST.
Team Sergeant
08-27-2015, 07:18
"I grabbed the AK and started muzzle thumping him in the head,"
I'm adding this to any and all future shooting lessons/training I give......
Tactical Terrorist Muzzle Thumping
We need Tee-shirts!!!!!
Muzzi Muzzle Thumping - oh yeah!
DIYPatriot
08-27-2015, 07:45
I'm proud of these guys. Glad to see them getting some recognition, too.
One of the three Americans who tackled and disarmed a suspected terrorist aboard a Paris-bound train last week will be awarded the US Army's highest non-combat medal, Army officials said Tuesday.
National Guardsman Aleksander Skarlatos will receive the Soldier's Medal, the Army's highest award for acts of heroism not involving actual combat with the enemy, NBC News reported.
Mr. Skarlatos, along with friends Spencer Stone and Anthony Sadler, was traveling on a high-speed train from Amsterdam to Paris after touring Europe to celebrate Skarlatos's return from a tour of duty in Afghanistan when a man emerged from a bathroom with an assault rifle, a pistol, and close to 300 bullets. He had already injured one man and was attempting to cock his rifle aboard the train carrying 500 passengers.
Full Story (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/french-train-attack/french-train-hero-guardsman-skarlatos-get-top-u-s-army-n416156)
DIYPatriot
08-27-2015, 08:24
Why is it a non combat medal? Sounds like combat to me. are we not in a war against this very organization?
I thought the same thing. I also thought it was great to see them getting awarded something as opposed to involuntarily discharged. After all, this is the same Army that is hell-bent on kicking out a Special Forces warrior that roughed up a child rapist.
Streck-Fu
08-27-2015, 08:49
I eagerly await the public praise being broadcast fro the Rose Garden...much like Bergdahl's release announcement .....
SouthernDZ
08-27-2015, 08:57
Hopefully this has become a trend; changing "See Something, Say Something" to "See Something, Do Something."
Perhaps people are finally tired of simply being victims.:lifter
The Reaper
08-27-2015, 09:35
Why is it a non combat medal? Sounds like combat to me. are we not in a war against this very organization?
Exactly.
What are we calling this, "workplace violence" again?
TR
According to the regs, SPC Skarlatos was a civilian at the time. Airman Stone was still on Active Duty.
Pat
Why is it a non combat medal?
He wasn't in a designated combat zone as a member of a force under orders to participate in a combat operation.
Richard
The Reaper
08-27-2015, 10:47
He wasn't in a designated combat zone as a member of a force under orders to participate in a combat operation.
Richard
In today's world, I believe that definition has to change.
TR
Badger52
08-27-2015, 12:12
Hopefully this has become a trend; changing "See Something, Say Something" to "See Something, Do Something."
Perhaps people are finally tired of simply being victims.:lifterTeam Sergeant's t-shirt; from a photo, prostrate bleeding terrorist wannabe, underneath is "Muzzle Thumped!" and above, See something, DO something!
There ya go; use Amazon, Walmart probably wouldn't stock them in the first place.
frostfire
08-28-2015, 22:48
She said that she couldn't believe how the American who had his thumb nearly cut off reached into her husband's badly bleeding gunshot wound, stopped the bleeding, and then kept talking and reassuring the guy that he was going to be okay until help arrived.
Get that Airman a PJ slot! Looks like he already embodies (these things we do) that others may live ;)
Airmans Medal or Silver Star? We are at war.
Not only is he going to receive an Airman's Medal, he is also going to receive a Purple Heart for the wounds he received as well as being promoted to Staff Sergeant (E-5) from Airman 1st Class (E-3).
Air Force hero on French train to be promoted from E-3 to E-5
Airman 1st Class Spencer Stone, widely proclaimed a hero after he charged a gunman Aug. 21 on a train in Belgium, will be promoted to staff sergeant, Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh announced Tuesday.
Welsh decided he wanted to recognize Stone for the way he has responded to the crush of attention since he helped subdue the gunman.
“He has inspired a number of people by the way he as responded to this – his humility,” Welsh said at the Air Force Association’s 2015 national convention. “He has stayed very true to himself from the very beginning. He has not let the moment overwhelm him. He has represented the Air Force very well and very proudly and, basically, he has an instinct for saying and doing the right thing, which I think is going to be a very, very good attribute in a young NCO supervisor."
The promotion is in addition to the previously announced Purple Heart and Airman's Medal Stone will receive Thursday. Welsh said that Stone was eligible for the Purple Heart under a precedent set by the 2009 attack at Fort Hood, but he is not eligible for other combat valor awards.
“As a result of the Fort Hood study, if you remember, it was decided that if the injury was the result of a terrorist act, then you could consider the military member for the Purple Heart, but we have not recommended to the boss [Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James] that she consider him for any other combat award."
Stone, speaking to reporters earlier Tuesday, said he fully expected to be mowed down when he charged the gunman on the train in Belgium.
"I didn't think I was going to make it — at all," Stone said. "So I was very shocked when I hit him."
Stone and two friends — Army Spc. Alek Skarlatos and Anthony Sadler — took down the gunman while they were on vacation, riding on a train from Amsterdam to Paris.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/09/15/train-hero-m-not-going-leave-everyone-die/72313844/