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MR2
08-10-2015, 10:05
Which GOP candidate do you support for President in 2016? (August 2015) :munchin

It has been almost a week and most of the hysteria has died down. Thought we'd give this another go post debate.

In no particular order, Cruz, Fiorena, Paul, and Walker are in my top five (there is no #3). I voted for Cruz in this poll.

Mustang Man
08-10-2015, 11:03
I almost voted for Paul, just for the sake of how he owned Krispy Kreme Christie and informed the viewers on the preservation of the 4th amendment.

PSM
08-10-2015, 11:20
Hey, hey, HEY!

Lay off The Donald, girl! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP6S3KE2DaI) (That 's right! Uh, huh.)

:D

Pat

Richard
08-10-2015, 11:37
Ohman's views on the debate (1st pic) and mine (2nd pic).

Richard

Box
08-10-2015, 11:40
Post debate, I am still looking hard at Montgomery Brewster.

Sdiver
08-10-2015, 12:03
Still not behind any one candidate yet.

But, I may have to go back and look at the historical archives ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3191888/The-Simpsons-PREDICTED-Donald-Trump-presidency-didn-t-end-Time-travel-episode-2000-featured-broke-nation-reliant-aid-CHINA.html

:munchin

Hand
08-10-2015, 12:06
Since the debates serve to give folks the opportunity to get a "feel" for the candidates, Ill recount my "feel".

These are my opinions only and I very well could be wrong on any of them.

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush - More of the same. Seems like a pretty sincere dude, but he's a politician through and through.

retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson - I am very glad that Dr. Carson is amongst the candidates. Why? Because he is a HIGHLY successful, well spoken, hugely intelligent conservative BLACK man. He is anti entitlement, anti "look at me, I'm underprivileged so gimme gimme gimme". He has worked hard, is well respected and absolutely positively dismissed as a house n***a by the black populace. I'm curious to see what becomes of his political career and wish him the very best of luck. Presidential candidate though, no. (Not yet :) )


New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie - When asked about the financial state of his state, his response was "you should have seen it when I got it". No thanks you fat fuck. You can't manage what you shove in your face, I dont want you behind the desk in the Oval Office.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz - eh. That's all I got from the debate. Just eh.

former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee - I think he is an establishment politician. I see him bringing more of the same to Washington.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich - Another eh. I honestly don't know anything about him though outside of the debate.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul - Rand is an interesting person. I like his libertarian stance. I fear that the conservative voters wont stand behind him though. He is in my top 3 at the moment.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio - I don't know about him. I'm still developing my opinion.

Real estate magnate Donald Trump - I hate to like this fucker but damn it is amazingly refreshing to see someone running for the White House that ISN'T a politician. I like his fuck you attitude. I see no way for him to bring business as usual to Washington and I feel strongly that we sincerly need a serious shake up in the White House. He is in #1 at the moment.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker - More eh. Just another politician.

former HP head Carly Fiorina - Maybe. I doubt that she will garner the support needed, but she is #2 in my bag.

MR2
08-13-2015, 17:05
I have trained assets now working within three of the presidential campaigns. State directors and/or higher level as well as the RNC at the national level.

In no particular order and guaranteed to change.

Paul: Has had three campaign staff under investigation/indicted within the past year. Over a million dollar payoff in Iowa. I would think that a candidate would notice a million dollars going out of his fund... One who would have been indicted had the good sense to die a year ago. Interesting incident related to this. Someone approached the parents of the deceased and offered a high dollar get away at a swank resort in remembrance of their son. While away, someone broke into their home and stole (only) the deceased sons laptop. That being said - anyone could have done this. The money trail for the resort is well hidden. The campaign could have done this. An opposition campaign could have done this. Either party could have done this (I suspect Billy). Just to make things look bad or to release any information that may/may not be there. He remains in my top five at this time.

Walker: He is pushing his conservative credentials really hard. Lots of grassroots conservatives really like him for all the 'great' things he did in Wisconsin. he did do great things - but they were the 'safe' great things. The 'easy' great things. He refused to do the things that would have brought him some real heat. Like passing Constitutional Carry in his state. He could have done it and he refused to do it. Truly breaking the union. he did knock the union down several times as they went after him. But he never went after the union. He just took their attacks and withstood them. He could have gotten Right to Work passed in his state. He refused. He is at the bottom of my top five.

Carson: Impressive man. What a great choice for a cabinet position. He should show that he can get elected (run a significant campaign somewhere before running as President) first and hire folks that know what they are doing. He is not in my top five.

Trump: RNC is really worried about him. The bigger the RINO the bigger the attack. Plus everything I said about Carson.

Cruz: He is in my top five.

Fiorena: Former HP employees like her about as much as Indians like Jackson. She does not have the money or the team to play at this level. She has run for significant office and is acceptable to me. She is in my top five.

Kasick: Of the RINOs, I like him the most. He is not in my top five.

There is no #3 in my top five...



I will vote third party if a non-conservative is nominated.



I mean both meanings of the word trained.



IMHO, YMMV, batteries not included.

PSM
08-13-2015, 17:24
Fiorena: Former HP employees like her about as much as Indians like Jackson. She does not have the money or the team to play at this level. She has run for significant office and is acceptable to me. She is in my top five.

My wife just retired from HP and likes her. (Of course, since she just retired, she obviously survived the layoffs. :D) Carly keeps getting hit about the 30,000 laid off on her watch but HP has spent the last year laying off 55,000. My wife also worked for Perot's EDS which HP bought.

Pat

MR2
08-13-2015, 17:35
I like her too Pat and your wife is a true survivor!

PSM
08-13-2015, 17:41
...your wife is a true survivor!

It helps when your job is in an obscure subsidiary, is central to the product, and nobody else can, or wants to, do it. ;)

Pat

NurseTim
08-14-2015, 23:55
Christie and bush are right out.

Dr. Carson while amazingly talented as a physician, he is a babe in the woods filled with Wolves. To affable. To politically naive. Not what we need at this point. Maybe when we get back on the road to recovery.

Trump, well, I'm hoping the conservatives see his success with being blunt and not ducking questions and being in your face, and try to emulate him, without the crude cheap shots.

I'm pinning my hopes on Cruz/Walker/Paul. They seem most conservative to me, not 100%, but as close as I can hope for at this point.

Here's what I'd like: full support of the second amendment and executive order nullifying NFA '34, 69, & 86.
Establishing a consumption tax that that is A) incorporated into the final price and B) need of a constitutional amendment to increase that tax.

Pie in the sky, cut bureaucracy by 50%. Term limits for congress and senate. $35,000 salary for congress and senate and BOQ style housing provided, meals provided by the worst Marine cooks available.

sinjefe
08-15-2015, 08:07
If one of them would commit to rescinding every single EO Obama has signed while in office (like he never did one), I might consider voting for them.

Roguish Lawyer
08-15-2015, 11:37
If one of them would commit to rescinding every single EO Obama has signed while in office (like he never did one), I might consider voting for them.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/08/5-actions-ted-cruz-says-he-would-take-on-his-first-day-in-the-oval-office/

MR2
08-15-2015, 11:50
http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/08/5-actions-ted-cruz-says-he-would-take-on-his-first-day-in-the-oval-office/

;)

Team Sergeant
08-15-2015, 12:02
I just donated $100 to Ted Cruz...... either way I'd like to see him on the ticket.

Badger52
08-15-2015, 15:31
(RE: Walker) He could have gotten Right to Work passed in his state. He refused.He signed that into law in March of this year.
One of a zillion articles. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/03/09/scott-walker-signs-right-to-work/24659709/)
The statute itself. (https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2015/related/acts/1)

The wailing that even rose above my tinnitus (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/wisconsin-judge-declines-to-block-new-right-to-work-law-b99465620z1-296898851.html) was the wringing of hands & gnashing of teeth by the unions. And so far 'tain't workin' out for 'em. The Milwaukee paper has shockingly been pretty even handed the last few years, but the Madison paper is replete with alarms that "poor union revenues are down" - as if it's a commodity worth measuring.

Roguish Lawyer
08-15-2015, 15:45
I just donated $100 to Ted Cruz...... either way I'd like to see him on the ticket.

If anyone else wants to donate, please use this link so I get credit. :D :)

https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBCA0007

sinjefe
08-15-2015, 17:25
http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/08/5-actions-ted-cruz-says-he-would-take-on-his-first-day-in-the-oval-office/

Not just illegal ones. Every one of them.

Roguish Lawyer
08-15-2015, 18:16
Not just illegal ones. Every one of them.

There were legal ones?

sinjefe
08-15-2015, 21:02
He has signed 245. FDR signed an incredible 3741. Fuctards the lot of them.