View Full Version : Meet Kristin Beck, a transgender former Navy SEAL running for Congress
The Reaper
06-24-2015, 17:50
Well, now Diane has a partner. :rolleyes:
TR
Meet Kristin Beck, a transgender former Navy SEAL running for Congress
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/meet-kristin-beck-a-transgender-former-navy-seal-running-for-congress/2015/06/22/299006e4-0b87-11e5-9e39-0db921c47b93_story.html
By Ben Terris June 22 at 10:03 PM
On the campaign trail with Kristin Beck, a transgender former Navy SEAL
The transgender former Navy SEAL is challenging Rep. Steny H. Hoyer for the Democratic seat in Maryland's 5th District.
The first thing Lawrence Shaw noticed about the congressional candidate in his driveway were the medals - a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star with a "V" for valor, and a Joint Service Commendation decoration - clipped to her blazer.
"Are you retired military?" Shaw asked, taking a break from his lawn work to walk over to the broad-shouldered woman.
"Yeah, 20 years, Navy SEAL," Kristin Beck said. She brushed back her long blond hair and showed him the silver pendant on her necklace, an eagle clutching a trident, anchor and pistol.
"Wow, I didn't know there was a woman SEAL. That's amazing," said Shaw, a retired Army colonel.
"I'm the first one," Beck said. What she didn't say was that at the time of her service, she was Christopher Beck.
She didn't think she needed to mention it. Two years ago, Beck publicly came out as a woman, but by her account she still "looks like a dude in a dress." Even on a day when she was wearing jeans and a black jacket with white trim.
And anyway, she's running for Congress - not so much as a transgender candidate as a candidate who happens to be transgender.
That's why she didn't bring up gender issues as she walked through Shaw's upper-middle-class black neighborhood in Maryland, seeking votes in her long-shot primary bid against Steny H. Hoyer, the second-most-powerful Democrat in the House of Representatives. Beck, 48, almost certainly isn't going to win. She doesn't have much name recognition or money. She doesn't even have the backing of the major gay and transgender advocacy groups. They have hesitations about her propensity to offend parts of the community and take issue with her attempt to oust Hoyer, a staunch ally for LGBT rights. But what Beck does have is an incredible life story, a slightly jumbled platform of about 70 issues, and a message that the district is ready for a change.
"This is good!" Lawrence Shaw's wife, Yvette, said, leaning on a rake. "Another female in Congress - that's what I'm talking about. Give it to the women!"
Lawrence and Yvette gamely posed for photos with Beck and promised to check out her campaign Web site. Their 15-year-old daughter, Lauryn, grabbed three "Beck for Congress" bumper stickers and pasted them onto the family cars.
(Cont at link above)
Roguish Lawyer
06-24-2015, 18:45
OK, but remember this is the Navy we're talking about.
I'd tread lightly with this topic as there is a former SF Officer (3rd SFGA), WO (7th SFGA), and NCO (5th SFGA) out there who have all gone through similar 'gender reassignment' processes and now live their lives as women.
Richard
hm
I knew about the BN Cdr but not the WO and NCO
...bless their hearts
I'd tread lightly with this topic as there is a former SF Officer (3rd SFGA), WO (7th SFGA), and NCO (5th SFGA) out there who have all gone through similar 'gender reassignment' processes and now live their lives as women.
Richard
Now I'm getting confused.......
Oldrotorhead
06-24-2015, 19:52
He/she can't be politically worse than Hoyer.
Roguish Lawyer
06-24-2015, 20:58
I'd tread lightly with this topic as there is a former SF Officer (3rd SFGA), WO (7th SFGA), and NCO (5th SFGA) out there who have all gone through similar 'gender reassignment' processes and now live their lives as women.
Richard
A tiny slice of the 10%
NZ had had a transgender MP(Member of Parliament).
Before that she was a mayor and before that a sex worker(before it was legal in NZ).
Her grandfather was 2IC of the Maori Battalion in WWII.
I didn't agree with her politics, but she was well regarded in terms of integrity while in office and not working the transgender card as a competitive advantage/crutch.
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Personally, I'd like to see the GOP in the US dig up a 41 year old female latino 2nd generation veteran and small business owner who loves the 2nd ammendment(and the rest of the Constitution) and hates illegal immigration.
Preferably hot and equipped as from the factory with no dealer installed modifications.
Preferably hot and equipped as from the factory with no dealer installed modifications.
Now that's Funny!!!
Now that's Funny!!!
I was in Hua Hin Thailand last year having dinner and a few beers with a fellow round eye and a few Thai Army fellas.
During dinner we were people watching and asking our Thai hosts why they were suddenly laughing at a scene on the street.
They pointed to a couple of round eye gentlemen chatting up some rather hot "ladies".
Our hosts told us they were lady boys, which left me scared and confused.....so it was an early night.
Since then I've been trying hard to avoid scaring and confusing myself on anything outside of my opinions on geopolitics. :)
I saw part of the CNN special on Kristin Beck a couple of years ago. The real take home point was that he/she was pitiful, didn't have any clear idea of who he/she was and was IMHO, likely to stick a pistol in his/her mouth real soon. I turned it off with the feeling you get when you see someone that has some advanced mental illness or Alzheimer's. If it weren't for the surgery, he'd have probably cut his own dick off with a kitchen knife. Can't believe he's running for Congress. Heavy therapy, I guess. Mis dos centavos.
NurseTim
07-05-2015, 16:13
And I thought Jenner made an ugly broad, ufff.
In a changing world, this video imho is worth watching, for the simple reason that armed forces will be transgender sensitive in the very near future.
Additionally, based on the fourteen deployments Senior Chief Beck served, and his shooting skills demoed on the range, I would say she is not one who would suffer any intolerance, or disrespect.
https://vimeo.com/94271926
Also, K. Jenner came out as a republican, no pun intended, but whats the world coming to?
ddoering
07-16-2015, 03:22
Republican perhaps but it will be a Dem that dates him.
Additionally, based on the fourteen deployments Senior Chief Beck served, and his shooting skills demoed on the range, I would say she is not one who would suffer any intolerance, or disrespect.
I would fully expect that exact scenario to unfold--"You MUST tolerate my mental disorder and deviant behavior, or I will kill you out of my own intolerance of your beliefs!" (said, of course, in a screeching falsetto).
MOO, assigning terms like "disorder" and "deviant" to individuals and groups who live their lives on their own terms sets the stage for others to do the same IRT matters such as gun ownership and even armed service.( Only a crazy person would need to own that many guns, or any guns at all. Only a madman would want a job that centers around violence.) As Foucault points out in History of Madness (http://www.amazon.com/History-Madness-Michel-Foucault/dp/0415477263/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437069327&sr=8-2&keywords=foucault+madness), Western civilization has a established a pattern in which the criminalization of a behavior is frequently preceded by it being defined as pathological.
Moreover, stigmatizing matters of mental health may work against the interests of veterans who need both institutional support and public understanding.
My $0.02/YMMV
FWIW, attached is the APA's write up of its shifting perspective on gender identity from DSM-IV-TR to DSM-V. It is my understanding that there's ongoing debate within the LGBTQ community IRT the implications of this shifting sensibility.
^^^^^
As most academics do, you are over-complicating it. Its real simple:
XY chromosome = Male
XX = Female
So, if you are a male (see above), but think you are, or should be, a female, you have a mental problem.
Team Sergeant
07-16-2015, 12:13
I've sometimes thought of myself as a 100,000 year old Neanderthal, (and I know I'm a homosapien sapien) but every now and then I have this urge to just grab the nearest rock and... well you can figure out the rest......:munchin
quote...
According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis. There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated. And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II. (The DSM – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual – is the APA’s standard classification of their so-called mental disorders, and is used by many mental health workers in the USA and other countries.)
Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.
What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss.
My comment: there is order and disorder.
Order is a male/female of a species mating to produce offspring.....Disorder is two males or females mating, there is a form of sex but not a natural order.
MOO, assigning terms like "disorder" and "deviant" to individuals and groups who live their lives on their own terms sets the stage for others to do the same IRT matters such as gun ownership and even armed service
I'm not sure how you would describe willfully cutting off your penis as anything less than a 'disorder' or 'deviant.'
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As most academics do, you are over-complicating it. Its real simple:
XY chromosome = Male
XX = Female
So, if you are a male (see above), but think you are, or should be, a female, you have a mental problem.
]IMO, the binary reasoning in your comment is highly problematic for two reasons. First, by applying this type of reasoning to an issue that SMEs think is very complicated, one leaves open the door for the same type of reasoning to apply other complicated issues. As an example, many people base their view of American national security policy on a simple metric like defense spending as a percentage of GDP or number of foreign countries to which members of the armed forces are deployed.
Second, by imposing a definition of who does and doesn't have a "mental problem" one risks alienating potential political allies. Anecdotally, I have noticed a number of Facebook users who use the celebrate pride ap also favor supporting AD service persons as well as veterans. If this cohort is put into a position where support for one group draws hostility from another group, which group will they choose?
IMO some human behavior should be stigmatized...although apparently increasingly unpopular there remains a place for stigma in a healthy society. A complete breakdown of cultural norms..."everything is ok"...damn...what a mess.
]IMO, the binary reasoning in your comment is highly problematic for two reasons. First, by applying this type of reasoning to an issue that SMEs think is very complicated, one leaves open the door for the same type of reasoning to apply other complicated issues. As an example, many people base their view of American national security policy on a simple metric like defense spending as a percentage of GDP or number of foreign countries to which members of the armed forces are deployed.
Second, by imposing a definition of who does and doesn't have a "mental problem" one risks alienating potential political allies. Anecdotally, I have noticed a number of Facebook users who use the celebrate pride ap also favor supporting AD service persons as well as veterans. If this cohort is put into a position where support for one group draws hostility from another group, which group will they choose?
Uhhhhh.....what?
]IMO, the binary reasoning in your comment is highly problematic for two reasons. First, by applying this type of reasoning to an issue that SMEs think is very complicated, one leaves open the door for the same type of reasoning to apply other complicated issues. As an example, many people base their view of American national security policy on a simple metric like defense spending as a percentage of GDP or number of foreign countries to which members of the armed forces are deployed.
How many is many? I would venture to say that very few Americans think of national security as a percentage of any spending policy. I think it would be safer to say that the vast majority of Americans view national security as "what are we doing to keep the a-holes in check that mean to do us harm". I agree that is a simplistic view, but one in line with what I believe sinjefe pointed out correctly.
As for alienating potential allies, Should we make a practice of compromising our cultural norms in order to maintain alliances?
Uhhhhh.....what?
He'd make a good politician....basically saying modify your beliefs according to popular support/polling.
Wouldn't want to piss off anyone for anything...there might be repercussions.
In other words...
cow tow to the liberal elite or you will be blackballed into the gutter.
Winning an argument isn't enough for dirty hippy liberals, they must be certain that you submit to their way of thinking or else the battle WILL continue...
Just look and mr sulu's ludicrous statement about Clarence Thomas as proof.
A tranny doesn't tell anybody she is really a he.
She goes out for a hike in the wilderness, gets lost and dies.
Her picture (female) is posted around the area but nothing.
Years later her remains are found and they do a DNA check. "Was it Jane?" "No, it was some dude."
A tranny doesn't tell anybody she is really a he.
She goes out for a hike in the wilderness, gets lost and dies.
Her picture (female) is posted around the area but nothing.
Years later her remains are found and they do a DNA check. "Was it Jane?" "No, it was some dude."
C'mon 1st Gp guys......how many of ya got fooled...:)
]IMO, the binary reasoning in...
You are over thinking it. There is no binary reasoning. It is pure DNA.
IMO, if a man thinks he is a woman he is the same as the man who thinks he is a moose, both have deviant thoughts and neither should be around sharp objects or things that go bang or boom.
C'mon 1st Gp guys......how many of ya got fooled...:)
Uh, all of them? :D
C'mon 1st Gp guys......how many of ya got fooled...
What happens in "Bang Cock" stays in....
But more importantly, why does anyone really care, except of course, to exercise and protect the constitutional rights of free speech as ensconced in the First Amendment, which most of us here swore a solemn oath to protect and defend against all, if it not that what are you really defending?
Do you really care if some like their pussy on a stick? Or, it is more important to you that this issue is addressed as a unconditional cultural imperative, that without which society and our entire value system would fail? Do you really believe that?
I would argue the exact opposite, that by supporting the freedom of expression, in whatever form it takes, we ensure our other cherished rights. And by doing so, Tom and Bill, or Jane and Emily, or Chris Beck, would know that whatever lifestyle they choose we defend via the US Constitution first 10 Amendments/Bill of Rights, and have, would in turn understand that without those to defend their right to live their life on their terms only the abyss waits, would support your right to live your life on your terms. Quid Pro Quo...
A tranny doesn't tell anybody she is really a he.
She goes out for a hike in the wilderness, gets lost and dies.
Her picture (female) is posted around the area but nothing.
Years later her remains are found and they do a DNA check. "Was it Jane?" "No, it was some dude."
You make it sound like its a bad thing...
What happens in "Bang Cock" stays in....
But more importantly, why does anyone really care, except of course, to exercise and protect the constitutional rights of free speech as ensconced in the First Amendment, which most of us here swore a solemn oath to protect and defend against all, if it not that what are you really defending?
Do you really care if some like their pussy on a stick? Or, it is more important to you that this issue is addressed as a unconditional cultural imperative, that without which society and our entire value system would fail? Do you really believe that?
I would argue the exact opposite, that by supporting the freedom of expression, in whatever form it takes, we ensure our other cherished rights. And by doing so, Tom and Bill, or Jane and Emily, or Chris Beck, would know that whatever lifestyle they choose we defend via the US Constitution first 10 Amendments/Bill of Rights, and have, would in turn understand that without those to defend their right to live their life on their terms only the abyss waits, would support your right to live your life on your terms. Quid Pro Quo...
I get your drift but we, collectively, are not being asked for tolerance but for total acceptance as a new norm.
Accepting every disorder, norming it, is also a slippery slope for a society that is way past common sense in its approach to issues.
Can I accept their choices...yes. Do I 'support' this choice as a norm to be celebrated? No.
When one can no longer make a value judgment based on the building blocks of a stable society then what...we accept everything as freedom of speech?
Is polygamy freedom of speech....pedophilia.....necrophilia?
Is there any line?
I was unaware of this but...Caitlin Jenner is in love with a transgender woman. That is the big news. Candis Kane or something that was announced or seen at his courage award ceremony.
I can tolerate that, they can do as they like.....but that is not the drift of this issue...it is being celebrated like a fantastic event and being digested by thousands of children as ...what....something to emulate, a good thing...normal. This norm being pushed by the industry that molds the likes and dislikes of youngsters.
Two men pretending to be women dating each other is courageous? A positive for society, a plus?
Tolerate and go about their business, yes......but we are far beyond that at this point and going further.
There is no line.
If you draw a line it is because you are intolerant.
...or you're a racist.
...or you're a homophobe.
...or you're a 'phobe of some other flavor.
No lines. Only intolerant fascists draw 'lines' to define people.
If I've said it once, I've said it a dozen times. We aren't drifting towards an Orwellian society; we are voraciously encouraging the development of something out of an Aldus Huxley novel. The parallels between the direction that modern day liberals and democrats seek to move the nation seem much more similar to brave new world than 1984.
...most panty waisted liberals couldn't pull off a 1984. They dont have the stomach for it.
Now Hillary, she could pull off a 1984...
...so theres THAT to worry about.
Go Devil
07-17-2015, 06:17
What happens in "Bang Cock" stays in....
But more importantly, why does anyone really care, except of course, to exercise and protect the constitutional rights of free speech as ensconced in the First Amendment, which most of us here swore a solemn oath to protect and defend against all, if it not that what are you really defending?
Do you really care if some like their pussy on a stick? Or, it is more important to you that this issue is addressed as a unconditional cultural imperative, that without which society and our entire value system would fail? Do you really believe that?
I would argue the exact opposite, that by supporting the freedom of expression, in whatever form it takes, we ensure our other cherished rights. And by doing so, Tom and Bill, or Jane and Emily, or Chris Beck, would know that whatever lifestyle they choose we defend via the US Constitution first 10 Amendments/Bill of Rights, and have, would in turn understand that without those to defend their right to live their life on their terms only the abyss waits, would support your right to live your life on your terms. Quid Pro Quo...
31001
The label on the finger can be many things.
craigepo
07-17-2015, 08:18
Couldn't be any worse than Hoyer.
The label on the finger can be many things.
Great Image!!!!
And I agree with most of the opinions that have been expressed here. But much like Brown vs The Board of Education, there is always a huge swing that promotes a civil right, then, as has been proven in case after case, there is a settling in the law were the SCOTUS addresses challenges in order to correct an overreach, or define further the extent and limits of the interpretation.
In an interview with The Daily Pennsylvanian on Thursday, Wax said Anglo-Protestant cultural norms are superior.
The leveling from the right is beginning to sway the pendulum back to center...maybe?
http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/08/amy-wax-penn-law-cultural-values
Looks like he/she has changed their minds….
https://www.foxnews.com/us/retired-navy-seal-made-famous-coming-out-trans-announces-detransition-destroyed-my-life
It's almost like Beck is suggesting that mental health and dysphoria should be treated instead of celebrated...
Maybe we need more study
Looks like he/she has changed their minds….
https://www.foxnews.com/us/retired-navy-seal-made-famous-coming-out-trans-announces-detransition-destroyed-my-life
There are a couple of other pretty good stories in this link regarding regret. The voices of the ones who have seen the error of their choice to transition will no doubt be drowned out by the left.
It's almost like Beck is suggesting that mental health and dysphoria should be treated instead of celebrated...
Maybe we need more study
Study this I believe mental health is not in question .... Fox posted the story earlier
https://twitter.com/NoVA_Campaigns/status/1601302770761760768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1601302770761760768%7Ctwgr% 5E7555213b2ce52adc2d57fa7bb425819be008e4ff%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independentsentinel.com% 2Farmy-fires-good-soldiers-over-vaccines-but-keeps-sm-pups%2F
rsdengler
12-15-2022, 12:20
Study this I believe mental health is not in question .... Fox posted the story earlier
https://twitter.com/NoVA_Campaigns/status/1601302770761760768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1601302770761760768%7Ctwgr% 5E7555213b2ce52adc2d57fa7bb425819be008e4ff%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independentsentinel.com% 2Farmy-fires-good-soldiers-over-vaccines-but-keeps-sm-pups%2F
Yeah, we were roasting that guys account on Twitter until he blocked a bunch of us. He has an IG account as well. OMG, he's really out there :eek:
This thread started in 2015, seven years later the onslaught against western cultural continues, but as noted in PBR post the deviant behavior has expanded to include children, norming grooming, drag queens in classrooms.
The term cancel cultural is too polite, this us an absolute psyche war on a national scale, which imoo, can only be executed in tandem with political allies in the USA, joining with China, Soros, and a ruling elite. Fat Milley hiding keys, dems abandoning troops in the field, Antifa, CRT, BLM, defund the police were years in the making!! Planed and rolled out like mayo on a hot bun. (A nod to the alphabet bitches)
don't forget the senior military leaders that still have no problems preaching that the real enemy is American extremism...
...the ones that still champion behavior like Becks
don't forget the senior military leaders that still have no problems preaching that the real enemy is American extremism...
...the ones that still champion behavior like Becks
Yup - just heard that from our three-banger the other day: "The enemy isn't China or Russia, it's racism and extremism in the ranks." I almost puked. I wanted to scream STFU!!! at my computer screen.