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DanHeller88
06-23-2015, 01:26
There is the obvious "rivalry" between SF and Seals, Army and Marines, etc. What is the relationship you SF guys have with the 160th? I only ask because I have a relative who is 160th and when I told him I was obtaining an 18x he gave me that smirk hah.

x SF med
06-23-2015, 03:57
There is the obvious "rivalry" between SF and Seals, Army and Marines, etc. What is the relationship you SF guys have with the 160th? I only ask because I have a relative who is 160th and when I told him I was obtaining an 18x he gave me that smirk hah.

Maybe the smirk was because he knows the pass rate for 18x into actually making it to a Team. A lot of guys drop out of their contracts in Basic.

DanHeller88
06-23-2015, 04:16
Very aware of this. I guess it's good they don't waste cadre time by going for something they clearly do not want. But it would have been nice if that contract was available to someone who really did want it. Guess some people don't know until they are faces with adversity, discomfort and a true fight.

Pete
06-23-2015, 04:41
Dan, you're not going to make it through SFAS by way of an elevated post count here and at SOCNET.

Spend more time doing PT - and reading.

The Reaper
06-23-2015, 06:58
The original helicopters for 160th came from the SF Group Aviation Detachments. They were supposed to improve maintenance, readiness, etc. Unfortunately, that went by the wayside and now, it is extremely rare for 160th to fly any kind of support for an SF Group. At one time, USASFC(A) and the subordinate Groups were slated for ZERO hours of support from 160th. I am not sure that has changed.

IMHO, most of the aviators from 160th are very good at what they do, but see themselves as more special than Special Forces, due to some of the units they work with.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

sinjefe
06-23-2015, 07:31
^^^^^Even though they are just talented bus drivers.

Box
06-23-2015, 07:58
^^^^^Even though they are just talented bus drivers.


Nice...
...and it doesn't matter who they are driving.


Unless you paint the bus black...
...that makes you an operator.

Team Sergeant
06-23-2015, 11:34
Nice...
...and it doesn't matter who they are driving.


Unless you paint the bus black...
...that makes you an operator.

Don't forget the Velcro..... no Velcro no operator.

DanHeller88
06-23-2015, 16:21
I appreciate the info guys hah.

Dive08
06-23-2015, 17:51
Their supporting groups is no longer all that rare.

RockSolid
06-28-2015, 19:28
^^^^^Even though they are just talented bus drivers.

hahahhah

You can start a fire with that burn!

CW3SF
06-28-2015, 19:54
If not for one of their VERY talented bus drivers, i would not be here today. I have nothing but the utmost respect for them and every thing that they do to get me safely from point A to point B. :cool:

JJ_BPK
06-29-2015, 05:09
hahahhah

You can start a fire with that burn!

The day is coming when there will not be any 160th truck drivers..


http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/firescout/Pages/default.aspx

:munchin

MR2
06-30-2015, 09:39
I'd much rather have a man fly me into the side of a mountain than by a computer. :mad:

Joker
06-30-2015, 11:14
I'd much rather have a man fly me into the side of a mountain than a computer. :mad:

I disagree. I can survive being flown into the side of a computer... :D

MR2
06-30-2015, 12:38
I disagree. I can survive being flown into the side of a computer... :D

LOL

Box
06-30-2015, 13:10
I disagree. I can survive being flown into the side of a computer... :D

Maybe so...
...but we are talking about a HUGE fucking computer here.

Joker
06-30-2015, 16:43
Maybe so...
...but we are talking about a HUGE fucking computer here.

Yeah, but I'm talking about a really big helicopter, you know, Jade Helm sized helos.

Retired W4
07-12-2015, 12:44
Yeah, but I'm talking about a really big helicopter, you know, Jade Helm sized helos.

They'll need a really big helicopter to put all those confiscated guns in.

I don't know about today, as I've been out of the loop for quite a while, but the 160th selection/training process was extensive in the late 1990's. Several students of mine went to the 160th and they were GOOD.

S2theM
07-30-2017, 10:05
This is an old post but, coming from aviation I know plenty of 160th mechanics, and they believe that they are better than SF because they do not fly them and they fly "packages". Similar to what The Reaper mentioned. I find it hilarious because they believe that they are more elite soldiers when in reality they are a bunch of mechanics. Id love to see them try and make it through SFAS! However, I do have to say that the aviators and crewchiefs do go on secret squirrel missions, but hearing the mechanics gloat about how special they are is something else!

Team Sergeant
07-30-2017, 12:24
Special Operations is a team effort and everyone needs to be at the top of their game.
Mechanics are just as important as SF soldiers, everyone has their job to do, we just have different jobs.