View Full Version : Cornell dean says ISIS welcome on campus
FearMonkey
03-25-2015, 09:45
http://nypost.com/2015/03/24/cornell-dean-says-isis-welcome-on-campus-in-undercover-video/
This guy is either the dumbest Ivy League bigwig ever or politically correct to a fault — for welcoming offers to bring ISIS and Hamas to Cornell University.
A video sting operation shows Cornell’s assistant dean for students, Joseph Scaffido, agreeing to everything suggested by an undercover muckraker posing as a Moroccan student.
Scaffido casually endorses inviting an ISIS “freedom fighter’’ to conduct a “training camp” for students at the upstate Ithaca campus — bizarrely likening the activity to a sports camp.
Is it OK to bring a humanitarian pro-“Islamic State Iraq and Syria” group on campus, the undercover for conservative activist James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas asks.
Sure, Scaffido says in the recorded March 16 meeting.
Scaffido doesn’t even blink an eye when the undercover asks about providing material support for terrorists — “care packages, whether it be food, water, electronics.”
How about supporting Hamas?
No problem at all, Scaffido said.
“The university is not going to look at different groups and say, ‘You’re not allowed to support that group because we don’t believe them’ or something like that. I think it’s just the opposite. I think the university wants the entire community to understand what’s going on in all parts of the world,” Scaffido said.
The undercover asked if he can invite “a freedom fighter to come and do like a training camp for students.”
Scaffido responds, “You would be allowed to do something like that. It’s just like bringing in a coach, to do a training, a sports trainer or something,” the Cornell official said.
The State Department includes both ISIS and Hamas on its list of terrorist organizations.
Cornell brass responded to a Post inquiry made to Scaffido.
“Cornell fully supports the free exchange of ideas and does not review or control the political ideology of our students. We do not, of course, tolerate unlawful advocacy of violence, and the comment about training by ISIS freedom fighters does not reflect university policy,” said Joel Malina, Cornell’s vice president for university relations.
Feast your eyes on this little gem of undercover reporting...
The issue here isn't the "gotcha" journalism or that Cornell supports ISIS. Obviously, the former is true and the latter is false. This "journalist" certainly phrases his questions to be misleading and I fully believe the Assistant Dean Mr. Scaffido doesn't support ISIS. The issue here, is that people as a whole (but especially University Administration!!) need to be more aware of the threat of transnational terrorism. I'm sure Mr. Scaffido didn't know what he was approving, but don't you think he should've known better? It's time for the population, as a whole, to become more aware that the United States has been fighting the longest war in the US history.
You've got to be fucking kidding! Now let's see how many defend them.
Ezra Cornell did say, "I would found an institution where any person can find instruction in any study."
At least the college is true to its motto and quite frankly, we have a lot of people in the US that really do need to learn how to blow themselves up.
In addition, with all the chatter about the rape culture on college campuses, what we need is an SME to teach liberal academia what a REAL rape culture looks like.
...all in
Team Sergeant
03-25-2015, 10:49
As soon as the US military leaves the Middle East the global cancerous cult know as islam will rise again.
The Dean need not invite them as they are coming, that you can take to the bank.
DHS, FBI, ATF, USBP, NSA, CIA etc etc etc will not even know they are here until they strike, again.
Embrace islamic tolerance just as Europe did as the Nazi's rose to power.
Our children will pay in blood for our tolerance.
Old Dog New Trick
03-25-2015, 11:09
Feast your eyes on this little gem of undercover reporting...
The issue here isn't the "gotcha" journalism or that Cornell supports ISIS. Obviously, the former is true and the latter is false. This "journalist" certainly phrases his questions to be misleading and I fully believe the Assistant Dean Mr. Scaffido doesn't support ISIS. The issue here, is that people as a whole (but especially University Administration!!) need to be more aware of the threat of transnational terrorism. I'm sure Mr. Scaffido didn't know what he was approving, but don't you think he should've known better? It's time for the population, as a whole, to become more aware that the United States has been fighting the longest war in the US history.
I think the issue here is that mainstream and elite educational systems across the U.S. are out of touch with reality and have lost all credibility as an institution of "learning" or teaching as the case may be. It's only all about money!
If that "gotcha" journalists had asked him questions about wanting to have sorority parties like "Animal House" and/or suggested alcohol and drug rage parties where rape was very likely to occur. Even this ignorant ass would object.
But this is coming to you from a school "Board" led by one of the architects of the financial meltdown in 2007. It's probably not even ignorance as a ruse, but a financially motivated point to allow this type of openness. How many federal dollars can you get to combat a growing concern over local radicalization on college campuses if only after the fact you left the door open...held it open!
This "Assistant Dean" isn't just stupid and uninformed. He is one example of all those involved in "academia" in the U.S.
FWIW. Source is here (http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/03/president-responds-ludicrous-and-offensive-allegation) (emphasis added).President David Skorton issued the following statement March 25:
As the president of Cornell University, I want to be clear that the notion that Cornell would allow ISIS training sessions on our campus is ludicrous and absolutely offensive.
Project Veritas, the organization behind this shoddy piece of “journalism” has been repeatedly vilified for dishonest, deceitful activity. It is shameful that any individual would pose as a student facing racial discrimination at another university, ask leading questions on hidden camera about Cornell’s tolerance for differing viewpoints and backgrounds, and then conveniently splice together the resulting footage to smear our assistant dean and our University. After speaking with Assistant Dean Scaffido, I am convinced that he was not aware of what he was being asked.
Let me be clear: Cornell has an unwavering commitment to the free and responsible exchange of ideas. However, we remain vigilant in maintaining an appropriate balance of freedom of expression within accepted boundaries. Of course, incitement to violence is not protected and would never be tolerated on our campus. MOO, there's a difference between baiting and debating.
When asked a question......
FWIW. Source is here (http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/03/president-responds-ludicrous-and-offensive-allegation) (emphasis added).MOO, there's a difference between baiting and debating.
That is damage control. Nothing more......
Bet he said he did not know what the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria was since he did not use the term ISIS so he did not connect the dots...... Just saying...
Lionshare
03-25-2015, 14:20
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FearMonkey
03-25-2015, 14:27
FWIW. Source is here (emphasis added).
Quote:
President David Skorton issued the following statement March 25:
As the president of Cornell University, I want to be clear that the notion that Cornell would allow ISIS training sessions on our campus is ludicrous and absolutely offensive.
Project Veritas, the organization behind this shoddy piece of “journalism” has been repeatedly vilified for dishonest, deceitful activity. It is shameful that any individual would pose as a student facing racial discrimination at another university, ask leading questions on hidden camera about Cornell’s tolerance for differing viewpoints and backgrounds, and then conveniently splice together the resulting footage to smear our assistant dean and our University. After speaking with Assistant Dean Scaffido, I am convinced that he was not aware of what he was being asked.
Let me be clear: Cornell has an unwavering commitment to the free and responsible exchange of ideas. However, we remain vigilant in maintaining an appropriate balance of freedom of expression within accepted boundaries. Of course, incitement to violence is not protected and would never be tolerated on our campus.
MOO, there's a difference between baiting and debating.
Sigaba,
I completely agree with your assessment. The President of Cornell has a point and I agree the "journalist" used underhanded, misleading, and unethical tactics that amount baiting. It's the journalistic equivalent to internet trolling. I do not dispute that point and the President of Cornell is absolutely correct and justified in saying that the University does not/would not willingly support terrorism.
Here's my point: "After speaking with Assistant Dean Scaffido, I am convinced that he was not aware of what he was being asked."
My question is... WHY NOT?!!? As the Assistant Dean of major University that provides funding for international forums, outreach programs, and international student activities WHY ARE YOU NOT AWARE OF THE THREAT OF THE SPREAD OF TRANSNATIONAL TERRORISM?! As the Assistant Dean, it's his responsibility to know what's happening on his campus and what his students are funneling the Universities money towards. Claiming ignorance of the issue IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Terrorist infiltration will occur directly under our noses and simply saying you weren't aware of the issue does nothing to protect yourself, this nation, or our way of life. In fact, terrorist organizations that wish us harm hinge the success of their plans on our apathy. My point, is that America (as a population) needs to become more aware of the issues surrounding transnational terrorism. America citizens can no longer afford to hide in their shell and choose to be ignorant about the threat. The complete ignorance of the issue displayed by Mr. Scaffido serves as a microcosm for the majority of the population and is the most dangerous aspect of transnational terrorism threats to the US, in my opinon.
I find it hard to believe this guy does not know who ISIS is.
Maybe he isn't an Egyptologist or DC Comics fan... :rolleyes:
Richard
Team Sergeant
03-25-2015, 15:06
Maybe he isn't an Egyptologist or DC Comics fan... :rolleyes:
Richard
Morons are everywhere. Most American children have heard of ISIS, funny that such a well educated "intellectual" has not.
Penn And Teller Get Hippies (liberals) To Sign Water Banning Petition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
I find it hard to believe this guy does not know who ISIS is.When one is knee deep in work at an academic institution, one can be so busy that you stop paying attention to the news.
I've seen a similar dynamic in the private sector as well--bosses talking about growing profits even as print news outlets are screaming about an impending global recession.
mark46th
03-25-2015, 15:52
I don't think common sense or loyalty to the United States are necessary attributes to be a college professor these days.
When one is knee deep in work at an academic institution, one can be so busy that you stop paying attention to the news.
I've seen a similar dynamic in the private sector as well--bosses talking about growing profits even as print news outlets are screaming about an impending global recession.
So, just like those bosses, shouldn't that assistant dean be fired? I can't wrap my head around an assistant dean being that busy, or that ignorant. I understand that that job probably keeps him busy, but hell, the average buck Sergeant has more on his plate than that man could ever have. No sleep, sometimes lack of food, and being constantly tasked out to perform miracles on a daily basis. All the while in an austere, and down right unforgiving environment.
Playing dumb doesn't cut it for me; however, as always YMMV
...Playing dumb doesn't cut it for me...
Neither me; however, I know people who are not wrapped up in the world of academia or so busy that they don't have time to pay attention to what is happening in the world around them, but they are "willingly" ignorant of it because they choose to be and simply don't care about current events. If something doesn't directly involve them...they don't care...it doesn't exist.
Yep...there are people like that in all facets of life...and yes, they get to vote.
So, just like those bosses, shouldn't that assistant dean be fired? I can't wrap my head around an assistant dean being that busy, or that ignorant. I understand that that job probably keeps him busy, but hell, the average buck Sergeant has more on his plate than that man could ever have. No sleep, sometimes lack of food, and being constantly tasked out to perform miracles on a daily basis. All the while in an austere, and down right unforgiving environment.
Playing dumb doesn't cut it for me; however, as always YMMVThe bosses to whom I alluded are still bosses.
IRT the assistant dean, my issue is that he got caught with his pants down intellectually. Even if one gives him the benefit of the doubt for not knowing about ISIS, he works at one of the planet's most reputable private universities. MOO, he should, at minimum, have had the SA to realize that he was getting baited. He should, at a minimum, have had the wits to shut down the conversation without playing dumb. ("As a matter of personal preference, I don't comment professionally on hypotheticals. As a matter of policy, my office carefully reviews the applications of all groups seeking to come on campus." And so on.)
My $0.02.
Team Sergeant
03-25-2015, 17:30
Neither me; however, I know people who are not wrapped up in the world of academia or so busy that they don't have time to pay attention to what is happening in the world around them, but they are "willingly" ignorant of it because they choose to be and simply don't care about current events. If something doesn't directly involve them...they don't care...it doesn't exist.
Yep...there are people like that in all facets of life...and yes, they get to vote.
Yeah, it's called the Sergeant Schultz effect, 99.9% of liberals live by it. White House uses it 7 days a week.
"I see nothing"
"I know nothing"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
The problem with this entire circus is illustrated by the simple observation that most intellectuals...
...'aren't'
The chasm between educated and intelligent can't be jumped by Evel Knieval in a specially built rocket cycle and it can't be crossed with limousine liberal logic either...
...smug elitist pricks from the ivory towers of academia can't be bothered by such trivial matters as the current state of world affairs.
Its NOT this guys fault, lets give him a break.
The problem with this entire circus is illustrated by the simple observation that most intellectuals...
...'aren't'.
My view of intellectuals:
miclo18d
03-26-2015, 05:56
DHS, FBI, ATF, USBP, NSA, CIA etc etc etc will not even know they are here until they strike, again.
Oh, they all will know exactly. They are running around hands tied with blinders on telling the Emporer that he has clothes on and prepping their excuses when they fail. Lack of leadership at the highest levels is going to doom this country.
Penn And Teller Get Hippies (liberals) To Sign Water Banning Petition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
Herd mentality. :(
The Dean of Students, Mr. Scaffido doesn't know what or who ISIL is?? Freaking really!! Hello Cornell, maybe that's an issue. But no it isn't. The BLUF is the more Liberals are expose of their ignorance for being libertarded community, the more people will understand that are way of life is being threatened from them! Well I hope so!! Just the ignorance of these 2 SO-CALLED leaders of Cornell University should be enough to terminate them. But it will not happen.
Both the left and right are not about honesty and discussion. What they do is pander to the sheep that can not reason clearly and want to impose they views on others. Although they are both a minority but a significant minority the rest of us just let these insane people on blogs in the community spread their filth because we do not stand up to them. This political extortion by the left and right is the cause of the paralysis in Congress for decades. They, I too, think that a majority of Americans are stupid. However, there is no doubt that we have allowed extreme (Foreign) political groups dictate the cheap of politics of our elections. American's do stand up because most feel it doesn't matter. They are already the mindless sheep here clamoring with out knowing the whole truth. the left has indeed infiltrated many American campuses (Public school to Higher learning) but about American values on fairness and innocent until proven guilty is gone today. Scaffido is a shining example of this, Great Job James O'keefe on another hidden camera video.
Old Dog New Trick
03-26-2015, 12:51
Joe Scaffido, could just as well sell used cars for a living. But, if he really had the schools best interests in mind...he could have replied with:
"Yes, our school has a reputable and outstanding ROTC program, the instructor cadre and student cadets would welcome the competition and fair play of a competing organization such as ISIS to challenge them, both academically and strategically. We would welcome you and your organization with the necessary funding and support that we currently receive from the U.S. Government." "I look forward to assisting you and your fellow countrymen to becoming full fledged students at Cornell University."
:D