View Full Version : Leave during SFQC?
My question is, is leave allowed between phases at SFQC?
And if it is, if I had a certain event I wanted to attend, is an individual allowed to postpone beginning a phase to ensure they are allowed leave?
If specificity matters, the event is my sisters wedding and its Memorial Day weekend 2016. I'm going to MEPS Monday and I'm looking at a July ship date. My parents are pleading I push my enlistment back at least a year because they feel thats the only way I can be certain I can attend.
Open to any advice.
Also, its probably dangerous that my second post is a thread and that I'm seeking information beyond SFAS, but I searched to no avail besides something about hardship leave.
Thanks
Team Sergeant
03-13-2015, 18:04
Sure and you can ask the nice Special Forces instructors if they will allow you to make all your travel arrangements on their cell phones too.....
Maybe justin bieber will loan you his private jet to take you back and forth.
Whatever you need Sally, I'm sure they will work with you on this oh so important day of days. Maybe a mani-pedis before you leave camp?
Just wait until the rest of the SF guys chime in and tell you have many times they missed their kids birth due to mission requirements...... You must be part of the entitlement generation.....
xollie316
03-13-2015, 18:08
Not something you should be worried about right now. The Q Course changes daily it seems so any advice will be almost irrelevant come the event in question. But the most likely answer is, "no". Go get Selected. Good luck.
It never would have occurred to me to take leave during SFQC.
xollie316
03-13-2015, 18:18
It never would have occurred to me to take leave during SFQC.
Verdad. Stay in SWC / Q Course even longer? No gracias. Survive, advance, get to the regiment. They'll give you pcs leave. Maybe.
wow, really???
What's your priority???
LV or Special Forces Soldier...
miclo18d
03-14-2015, 05:55
I missed my Grandfather's funeral because I had a SFMS test on the Monday he was to be buried.
I could maybe see it if YOU are marrying your sister but that is frowned upon in Special Forces, FYI.
Short answer is No, probably not. However, there are always exceptions. Don't count on it.
Perhaps you should consider saving that leave time during SFQC and take it mid-cycle during Ranger School. Nothing like catching up on sleep and chow, say between the Mountain and Florida Phase.
I hear they also approve mid-course leaves during CDQC (Combat Diver Qualification Course) so you can attend more important functions and to rest up between open and closed circuit diving phases.
Word of advice; don't waste your leave during MFF Training, it's like a sky diving vacation in sunny Arizona!
If your leave is turned down; another way to accomplish this is simply ask to recycle a phase so you'll have time to take leave. I'm sure your 1SG will consider this an excellent idea.
Yeah...that's the ticket!
Seriously, if you are considering taking leave during SFQC, you are not mentally ready to attend.
Save your family, yourself and the Army a lot of time/trouble and decide to totally commit before you start down the SF path.
Many a SF guy has missed more important life events than his sister's wedding because of mission requirements.
I suspect you don't have a good grasp on what being a SF soldier is all about. That should have been "Step #1" before you signed up for the X-ray Program.
No worries though, Assessment and Selection will "-splain" it all to you.
Good luck to you!
PS: "Needs of the Army" can be unpleasant.
Just wait until the rest of the SF guys chime in and tell you have many times they missed their kids birth due to mission requirements....
Got that T Shirt!
You have got to be kidding!!!!! I missed my brother's wedding when while in the Q course in 1970. He understood as did the rest of my family.
If you are even questioning this, your head is in the wrong place and you should forget even attempting the program.
But on a positive note, she'll probably get divorced anyway so maybe you can go to the second wedding. :D
UWOA (RIP)
03-14-2015, 16:32
You have got to be kidding!!!!! I missed my brother's wedding when while in the Q course in 1970. He understood as did the rest of my family.
If you are even questioning this, your head is in the wrong place and you should forget even attempting the program.
But on the other hand, Fred got to meet and know me .... :p
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I missed my Grandfather's funeral because I had a SFMS test on the Monday he was to be buried.
I could maybe see it if YOU are marrying your sister but that is frowned upon in Special Forces, FYI.
That may depend on what TM you're on...:eek:
1stindoor
03-18-2015, 06:05
If he waits long enough he may be able to have his sister in his SFAS class....'course it would be awkward if she got selected and he didn't.
spottedmedic111
03-18-2015, 07:24
I had a classmate get married in San Antonio during the medic Q course but didn't take any leave, just spent the weekend at a hotel since we were all in barracks. To ask for special consideration before you're even qualified is a glaring reflection of poor character. There are many, many sacrifices necessary and expected in Special Forces but duty trumps personal considerations most of the time. During training you must give all, or don't bother joining. As the old saying goes, SF doesn't transform you, we only train you. You have to be ready for all of it before beginning.
My question is, is leave allowed between phases at SFQC?
And if it is, if I had a certain event I wanted to attend, is an individual allowed to postpone beginning a phase to ensure they are allowed leave?
If specificity matters, the event is my sisters wedding and its Memorial Day weekend 2016. I'm going to MEPS Monday and I'm looking at a July ship date. My parents are pleading I push my enlistment back at least a year because they feel thats the only way I can be certain I can attend.
Open to any advice.
Also, its probably dangerous that my second post is a thread and that I'm seeking information beyond SFAS, but I searched to no avail besides something about hardship leave.
Thanks
:confused::eek::confused::eek:
I missed my Grandfather's funeral because I had a SFMS test on the Monday he was to be buried.
I could maybe see it if YOU are marrying your sister but that is frowned upon in Special Forces, FYI.
MICLO18D Thanks for the laugh of the day, and it is only 04:30 in the morning. :D
Brennus: Stay committed or stay home. :)
Scimitar
03-18-2015, 18:54
It may be redundant as the OP hasn't signed in since his last post.
But it's likely if he is selected, that the wedding will fall during Orientation or Language phases. Assuming the Q remains the same till then.
I imagine he could get leave for a long weekend during the "classroom phases"....just saying... ;)
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x SF med
03-18-2015, 18:55
I missed my Grandfather's funeral because I had a SFMS test on the Monday he was to be buried.
I could maybe see it if YOU are marrying your sister but that is frowned upon in Special Forces, FYI.
I missed my grandmother's funeral because I was reclassing from Weapons to medic... A Psyop LTC (family friend) ran his HHD on the Mata Mile that day to find me and make sure I knew because my folks could not get through on the CQ phone (pre cell phone). LTC J. actually grabbed the 18D instructor and asked him if I was in the formation.... Hey Sergeant__________, WTF did you do this time? A Fucking Ring Knocking Colonel wants to talk to you, asked for you by name? So, not only did I not go to the funeral, I caught shit for the rest of the course.
Let's see. During my first few years in Group. I missed holidays, births, anniversaries, etc. etc. etc.
I came back from one deployment and Harley C Davis walked up to me as I got off the aircraft, handed me a box of cigars and congratulated me on the birth of my daughter who was born 2 days earlier.
By the time my kids were 6 and 4, I had only seen one or two birthdays and one or two Christmas's due to deployments and schools.
Make darn sure your significant other has a good support base she can rely on when you are gone and that she FULLY realizes how much time you will spend away from her and your family. If she has any hesitations you have three options.
1. Go SF and hopefully your marriage can survive.
2. Don't get married and go SF.
3. Don't go SF.
Good Luck!
Really??? So, you're open to any advice...choose a different MOS!!!
bailaviborita
04-26-2015, 06:05
The only holidays for instructors a year or so ago were Christmas and the 4th of July. For the 4th, we trucked the students to Bragg from MacKall on the 3rd so the instructors wouldn't have to be at MacKall (some would have worked that day if students were there...). On the 5th at 0500 the studs were heading back to CMK courtesy of support bn trucks...
No other holidays that I remember. And no leave except for that Christmas break.
I saw the thread title and thought to myself "Oh yeah... this is going to be good." :munchin
I was not disappointed. Thanks guys.
The President says we only have three years to kill these ISIS fuckers. You better not delay that enlistment. Tell your family to move the wedding to Christmas time when you'll get leave. If they say "no," screw 'em... you gotta be your own man. You'll most likely end up in the Infantry, but there's no shame in that.
Peregrino
04-26-2015, 13:01
As for "taking advantage of a long weekend" consider that we just had a CPT succumb from injuries sustained in a hit-and-run accident while visiting friends outside the 200-mile radius from home station - without a pass. The fallout won't matter to him - he's dead. It has the potential to prove catastrophic for his NOK. Not to mention the impact on his bosses and co-workers.