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Paslode
02-09-2015, 20:47
While browsing the headlines on Drudge I ran across and noticed an interesting comment and description from our faithless leader.

“Over the long term, I’m pretty optimistic, and the reason is because this country just becomes more and more of a hodgepodge of folks,” Obama told Vox editor Ezra Klein.

Synonyms for Hodgepodge: mixture, mix, mixed bag, assortment, random collection, conglomeration, jumble, ragbag, grab bag, miscellany,muddle, medley, mess, salmagundi, potpourri, patchwork, pastiche;mélange, mishmash, hash, confusion, farrago, gallimaufry

Results of a hodgepodge can be mediocre

tonyz
02-09-2015, 21:00
Our nation being viewed as just a "hodgepodge" of folks - as opposed to being viewed as a diverse group of proud Americans - seems consistent with this president's vision.

Pas, you just need to "get off your high horse!" ;)

Paslode
02-09-2015, 21:11
Our nation being viewed as just a "hodgepodge" of folks - as opposed to being viewed as a diverse group of proud Americans - seems consistent with this president's vision.

Pas, you just need to "get off your high horse!" ;)

But it is such a nice ride....I believe it is commonly referred to as 'American Exceptionalism' and The King frowns on it ;)

tonyz
02-09-2015, 21:26
Enjoy the ride ! Let him frown...this emperor has no clothes.

God Bless America !

Streck-Fu
02-10-2015, 06:37
Hodgepodge must be the new "Melting Pot"....

While true that we are a nation of immigrants, during the immigration boom years, people coming here came to work for better lives. Most were willing to work, start businesses, and become Americans.

No doubt many modern immigrants feel the same way, but this administration is inviting new immigrants with what our tax payers can provide to them. They have turned the idea of immigrating to the most free country in the world (claimed) into a late night info-mercial....

MR2
02-10-2015, 07:02
While true that we are a nation of immigrants, during the immigration boom years, people coming here came to work for better lives. Most were willing to work, start businesses, and become Americans.

During the immigration boom years (before the floodgates were opened in the 1980s) only 70% of the immigrants 'made it' as Streck-Fu describes. Those that couldn't make a go of it went back home where they still had families. Average immigration rates were around 250K per year.

In the 1980s, those that couldn't make it had a broad and growing safety net to rely on. They also tended to bring the whole family group - lock, stock, and barrel. Average immigration rates started averaging 1mil per year.

Immigrants have always had a refugee component however you define that word. But since the 1990s an increasing number of "immigrants" were those who couldn't make it 'there' and don't really have to make it here.

Today current immigration rates average 1.9 mil per year.

Everything I have described is the 'legal' immigration rates.

IMO YMMV

tonyz
02-10-2015, 07:18
If a legal immigrant or refugee wants to be an American - to work and pay taxes set roots, participate, produce, and truly pledge allegiance to America...welcome American.


“Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…”
~Thomas Paine

"If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what's at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodation." Ronald Reagan October 27, 1964

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Ben Franklin, 1766

In his essay "The American Dream", which was published back in the October 1973 issue of The Freeman, John E. Nestler reflects:

"Whereas the American Dream was once equated with certain principles of freedom, it is now equated with things. The American Dream has undergone a metamorphosis from principles to materialism. ... When people are concerned more with the attainment of things than with the maintenance of principles, it is a sign of moral decay. And it is through such decay that loss of freedom occurs."

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American ... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag ... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Box
02-10-2015, 08:50
...well, a dedicated person with a decent support base can make a LOT of changes in 2 years. There still hope that the fundamental transformation of America might be complete by January of 2017.

Take a knee faithful subjects, drink water and face out.