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PSM
11-25-2014, 17:11
Pretty interesting list. Palin's inclusion sure stirred up a hornets nest, though. Who's not included is even more interesting.

The List! (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonianmag/meet-100-most-significant-americans-all-time-180953341/?no-ist) Scroll down.

Pat

JJ_BPK
11-25-2014, 17:41
Pretty interesting list.
Pat

Meet the 100 Most Significant Americans of All Time


Religious figures - L. Ron Hubbard (occult visionary, science fiction writer)
Outlaws - Wild Bill Hickok (Lawman, Wild West Show Carny)
Athletes - Secretariat (horse)
Pop Icons - Charlie Chaplin (British)
Athletes - Arnold Schwarzenegger (German actor)

Sdiver
11-25-2014, 18:02
Athletes - Arnold Schwarzenegger (German actor)

Psst JJ,
Arnie is (was) Austrian.
He became an American citizen in 1983.

;)

echoes
11-25-2014, 18:02
Meet the 100 Most Significant Americans of All Time


Religious figures - L. Ron Hubbard (occult visionary, science fiction writer)
Outlaws - Wild Bill Hickok (Lawman, Wild West Show Carny)
Athletes - Secretariat (horse)
Pop Icons - Charlie Chaplin (British)
Athletes - Arnold Schwarzenegger (German actor)

They forgot a category----SF Man- ALL!

JMHO! ;)

Holly

The Reaper
11-25-2014, 18:04
Meet the 100 Most Significant Americans of All Time


Religious figures - L. Ron Hubbard (occult visionary, science fiction writer)
Outlaws - Wild Bill Hickok (Lawman, Wild West Show Carny)
Athletes - Secretariat (horse)
Pop Icons - Charlie Chaplin (British)
Athletes - Arnold Schwarzenegger (German actor)

Bill Hickok was not a carney.

I think you mean Buffalo Bill Cody.

And Schwarzenegger is Austrian, IIRC, NOT German.

TR

JJ_BPK
11-25-2014, 18:14
Bill Hickok was not a carney.

I think you mean Buffalo Bill Cody.

And Schwarzenegger is Austrian, IIRC, NOT German.

TR

Yes, I get them mixed..
Austrian - German
Cody - Hickok

:o

Airbornelawyer
11-25-2014, 20:03
Professionalsoldiers.com already did this years ahead of the Smithsonian, though we limited it to most significant never elected president.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750

cbtengr
11-25-2014, 20:17
He was involved briefly with Cody's Wild West Show.

Hickok's national reputation as the West's finest and fastest gunslinger soon led him to the stage. He starred as himself in Buffalo Bill Cody's Wild West Show in 1872 and 1873.


http://www.biography.com/people/wild-bill-hickok-40262#final-years

The Reaper
11-25-2014, 21:39
He was involved briefly with Cody's Wild West Show.

Hickok's national reputation as the West's finest and fastest gunslinger soon led him to the stage. He starred as himself in Buffalo Bill Cody's Wild West Show in 1872 and 1873.


http://www.biography.com/people/wild-bill-hickok-40262#final-years

IIRC, Cody did not start "Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show" until 1882, six years after Hickok's demise.

I believe Hickok played a part in Ned Buntline's stage play with Cody named "Scouts of the Plains" in 1873 and 1874.

TR

Penn
11-25-2014, 22:34
This guy is a no go, Christopher Columbus, he's one not American, and two the USA did not exist when he landed.

PSM
11-25-2014, 23:10
"[S]ignificant people in U. S. history" ;) Hitler and Hirohito may have made the list.

ETA: It does say "people" so Secretariat is out! In this slot I'd put Ted Williams. He covers a lot of bases, so to speak. ;)

Pat

NF_NYC
11-26-2014, 00:08
Where's Benjamin Franklin? Also, I know since it's U.S. history that American people were favored over foreigners on this list, but some foreigners were too important to leave out so...

Where's Hitler? Where's Osama bin Laden?

Also, where's Kanye West? Just kidding....:D

ddoering
11-26-2014, 07:34
They won't be getting a Holiday card from the White House this year.

rubberneck
11-26-2014, 09:33
This guy is a no go, Christopher Columbus, he's one not American, and two the USA did not exist when he landed.

Same goes for Vesppuci and De Verazzano. If exploring new territory makes you a citizen than Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin are the most influential citizens of the moon.

PSM
11-26-2014, 09:54
Same goes for Vesppuci and De Verazzano. If exploring new territory makes you a citizen than Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin are the most influential citizens of the moon.

No mention of needing to be a citizen, just having a significant influence on the country in the specific categories.

Pat

rubberneck
11-26-2014, 11:01
No mention of needing to be a citizen, just having a significant influence on the country in the specific categories.

Pat

The actual title of the piece is the 100 most significant Americans of all time. Visiting North America doesn't make you an American. In plain English the title of American implies citizenship. YMMV.

PSM
11-26-2014, 11:33
The actual title of the piece is the 100 most significant Americans of all time. Visiting North America doesn't make you an American. In plain English the title of American implies citizenship. YMMV.

Oops, it does. "Never mind." ;)

Pat

ddoering
11-27-2014, 08:16
The actual title of the piece is the 100 most significant Americans of all time. Visiting North America doesn't make you an American. In plain English the title of American implies citizenship. YMMV.

Evidently it does now. Just saying.....

Sigaba
11-27-2014, 14:08
The actual title of the piece is the 100 most significant Americans of all time. Visiting North America doesn't make you an American. In plain English the title of American implies citizenship. YMMV.
FWIW, the purpose of the special issue is as follows.A new, special issue of Smithsonian magazine attempts the impossible: to list out the most significant people in United States historyIf Arnold Schwarzenegger should on the list, he should be under cultural icons because of his impact on mass popular culture. But then, Spielberg, Lucas, or Katzenberg would better represent that impact.

Missing from the "empire builder" section is either Heffner, Flynt, or Stagliano.

The category "first women" should have neither Palin and Clinton. They represent the same thing: ambition over experience, and they have not transformed the political and social landscape. Ms. Winfrey is simply doing more lucratively what Helen Gurley Brown, Diana Vreeland, and others did better: empower Americans to live their lives as they wished.

MOO, a category missing from the list is intellectuals and within that category the following are potential candidates.

J. C. Calhoun
W.E.B. DuBois (moved from the "rebels & resisters" section)
W. A. Dunning
A. Hamilton
W. James
G. F. Kennan
A. C. Kinsey
A. T. Mahan

#TWOCENTS #YMMV

Richard
11-28-2014, 08:41
I'm tempted to buy this issue just to read the criteria used for this listing and their defense of those chosen.

Richard