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JJ_BPK
11-04-2014, 09:09
And the Best Whisky in the World is from...

JAPAN



'Best whisky in the world' no longer Scottish
Ansuya Harjani | @Ansuya_H
7 Hours Ago

A Japanese whisky has been named the "best in the world", upstaging traditionally favored Scottish brands, which did not make it into the top five, according to a new ranking.

Yamazaki Single Malt Sherry Cask 2013 was awarded the title by whisky connoisseur Jim Murray, whose 2015 edition of the Whisky Bible will be published next week, the Daily Mail reported.

Described as "near incredible genius" for its "nose of exquisite boldness" and finish of "light, teasing spice", Murray gave the drink 97.5 marks out of 100.

For the first time, no Scottish distillery was ranked in the top five, according to the Daily Mail, which got an advanced copy of the guide.


link: (http://www.cnbc.com/id/102148680?trknav=homestack:topnews:6)


Something is wrong in River City.. :confused:

PRB
11-04-2014, 09:38
Good because saki sucks.
AND, according to that guy altho when the Japs get busy they get busy.

TOMAHAWK9521
11-04-2014, 09:50
And the Best Whisky in the World is from...

JAPAN



Something is wrong in River City.. :confused:

I spoke with a whiskey rep at Wilbur's Liquor up in Ft Collins about the Yamazaki label. The guy said the Japanese distiller went to Scotland for number of years to learn their distilling methods. I can't remember which distillery it was. Anyway, this gentleman returned to Japan to start his own distillery. I think he even married one of the Scottish distillery owner's sisters. Evidently, he learned real good. I have a bottle of Yamazaki and it is very good.

Richard
11-04-2014, 10:45
As with wine or beer - personal preference.

Richard

VVVV
11-04-2014, 11:11
The Japanese are very large consumers of Kentucky Bourbon.

The Reaper
11-04-2014, 11:29
I much prefer a good Bourbon to a good Scotch.

The Scots even reuse Bourbon barrels to age their whisky.

Or maybe that is just being cheap. :D

TR

JJ_BPK
11-04-2014, 11:51
I much prefer a good Bourbon to a good Scotch.

The Scots even reuse Bourbon barrels to age their whisky.

Or maybe that is just being cheap. :D

TR

TR
In the US, it is illegal to re-use a whiskey barrel. The Scot's on the other hand have learned that the used barrels impart their taste into the next barreling.

The author of the rating, James Murray, is/was very influential in the industry. Not sure he'll get offered a pint if he shows up in Scotland now??

VVVV
11-04-2014, 11:53
Here are a few of my bourbons, and a fifty year old powderhorn of Dickel (far left) after a recent tasting.

echoes
11-04-2014, 11:59
I much prefer a good Bourbon to a good Scotch.
TR

TR Sir,

Hope you can enjoy one of our favorites, "Bulleit" Bourbon. It is great for just about any occasion, and makes a fantastic additive to any homemade whipped cream recipe for the Holidays!:) (Great for the topper on Hot cocoa or similar drinks.)

Holly

"To this day, Bulleit Bourbon is distilled and aged in small batches. High rye content gives it a bold, spicy character with a distinctively smooth, clean finish. Kentucky limestone-filtered water provides a foundation for the bourbon's character, while charred American oak barrels lend a smoky backbone. Our aging philosophy is simple: we wait until our bourbon is ready."

VVVV
11-04-2014, 12:01
TR
In the US, it is illegal to re-use a whiskey barrel.

I believe, that only applies to bourbon.

SF-TX
11-04-2014, 12:08
TR
In the US, it is illegal to re-use a whiskey barrel.

That applies to bourbon. It can't be called bourbon unless it is aged in new barrel.

VVVV
11-04-2014, 12:10
TR Sir,

Hope you can enjoy one of our favorites, "Bulleit" Bourbon. It is great for just about any occasion, and makes a fantastic additive to any homemade whipped cream recipe for the Holidays!:) (Great for the topper on Hot cocoa or similar drinks.)

Holly

"To this day, Bulleit Bourbon is distilled and aged in small batches. High rye content gives it a bold, spicy character with a distinctively smooth, clean finish. Kentucky limestone-filtered water provides a foundation for the bourbon's character, while charred American oak barrels lend a smoky backbone. Our aging philosophy is simple: we wait until our bourbon is ready."

I don't believe Bulleit is producing their own juice yet! It was produced until recently by Four Roses (Kirin Brewing Co). not sure who is distilling it for them at the moment.

echoes
11-04-2014, 12:31
I don't believe Bulleit is producing their own juice yet! It was produced until recently by Four Roses (Kirin Brewing Co). not sure who is distilling it for them at the moment.

WCH Sir,

Just found out this information, which seems to be right along the lines...:o

A Great Burbon, IMHO, with all kinds of uses in and out of the kitchen.;)

http://www.diageo.com/en-us/newsmedia/pages/resource.aspx?resourceid=2329

Diageo Breaks Ground on New $115 Million Kentucky Distillery – The Bulleit Distilling Co.Download file


SHELBYVILLE, Ky., August 21, 2014 – Diageo broke ground today on its new Shelby County, Kentucky distillery, which the company announced will officially be called "The Bulleit Distilling Co." after the distillery's flagship brand. Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear, and a number of other elected officials and Kentucky dignitaries, joined Diageo executives and Bulleit founder Tom Bulleit to celebrate the milestone.

This May, Diageo announced its intention to invest an estimated $115 million to build the 1.8 million proof gallon (750,000 9-liter cases) distillery and six barrel warehouses. In June, Shelby County's Triple S Planning Commission unanimously approved the distillery project. Along with Bulleit Bourbon, the facility will distill a number of current and future Diageo bourbon and North American Whiskey brands.

"Tom Bulleit has a genuine passion for his bourbon that he shares with everyone he meets. The growth of the Bulleit brand is the result of many years of investment and the relationships Tom has built," said Larry Schwartz, President, Diageo North America. "We are proud to be breaking ground on the new home of Bulleit Bourbon in this wonderful location in Shelby County. We look forward to becoming a valued member of the community for many years to come."

The Reaper
11-04-2014, 12:32
Here are a few of my bourbons, and a fifty year old powderhorn of Dickel (far left) after a recent tasting.

WCH, you have good taste in bourbon.

TR Sir,

Hope you can enjoy one of our favorites, "Bulleit" Bourbon. It is great for just about any occasion, and makes a fantastic additive to any homemade whipped cream recipe for the Holidays!:) (Great for the topper on Hot cocoa or similar drinks.)

Holly

"To this day, Bulleit Bourbon is distilled and aged in small batches. High rye content gives it a bold, spicy character with a distinctively smooth, clean finish. Kentucky limestone-filtered water provides a foundation for the bourbon's character, while charred American oak barrels lend a smoky backbone. Our aging philosophy is simple: we wait until our bourbon is ready."

Sorry, Holly, not a fan of rye in my whiskey.

Thanks for the offer though.

TR

Streck-Fu
11-04-2014, 12:46
I am a very big fan of Billeit Rye..... :D

TR Sir,

Hope you can enjoy one of our favorites, "Bulleit" Bourbon. It is great for just about any occasion, and makes a fantastic additive to any homemade whipped cream recipe for the Holidays!:) (Great for the topper on Hot cocoa or similar drinks.)

Holly

"To this day, Bulleit Bourbon is distilled and aged in small batches. High rye content gives it a bold, spicy character with a distinctively smooth, clean finish. Kentucky limestone-filtered water provides a foundation for the bourbon's character, while charred American oak barrels lend a smoky backbone. Our aging philosophy is simple: we wait until our bourbon is ready."

echoes
11-04-2014, 13:38
WCH, you have good taste in bourbon.

Sorry, Holly, not a fan of rye in my whiskey.

Thanks for the offer though.

TR

No problem Sir,

You and Streck would also like JD: We also made a very good batch of Jack Daniels Tennessee Honey whipped cream for our Holiday deserts. It also went great with our stuffed pies as well as topped beverages.:)

Holly

Roguish Lawyer
11-04-2014, 16:25
Here are a few of my bourbons, and a fifty year old powderhorn of Dickel (far left) after a recent tasting.

When does the bar open?

Roguish Lawyer
11-04-2014, 16:27
Sorry, Holly, not a fan of rye in my whiskey.

Thanks for the offer though.

TR

I suspect that you have not tried enough ryes . . . :munchin

The Reaper
11-04-2014, 17:18
I suspect that you have not tried enough ryes . . . :munchin

Amigo, I am still working my way through the non-rye selection. :D

After sterling 2013 reviews, I was lusting after the 2014 Four Roses Limited Edition Small Batch and two of the whiskeys in the blend turned out to be rye heavy. The reviewers killed it, along with my desire. Too peppery.

Moving on.

TR

Penn
11-05-2014, 10:26
There is going to be a radical transformation in the industry as the new boutique distillery enter the market. A market that has been more than comfortable, not competing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/business/raising-a-glass-to-american-upstart-distillers.html?_r=0

Five-O
11-05-2014, 11:01
There is going to be a radical transformation in the industry as the new boutique distillery enter the market. A market that has been more than comfortable, not competing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/business/raising-a-glass-to-american-upstart-distillers.html?_r=0

If this boutique distillery movement does for Whiskey/Spirits what craft breweries did for beer (specifically in the US) then this is welcome evolution.

PSM
07-31-2015, 10:41
Suntory Plans Space-Aged Whisky

Not content with having the best whisky in the world, Suntory Holdings Ltd. plans to take its whisky out of this world and into space.

The Japanese brewing and distilling company said this week it would send a total of six samples of its whiskies and other alcoholic beverages to the International Space Station, where they will be kept for at least a year to study the effect zero gravity has on aging.

http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2015/07/31/suntory-plans-space-aged-whisky/



Do they honestly expect to get those samples back? :D

Pat

Skywatch
08-03-2015, 09:25
As with anything, personal preference is in order, but I've got a few whisky recommendations if you haven't committed to Yamazaki as the best.

If you're looking for a mixer or a shooter, Pendleton is par excellence. It's not overly expensive, has great flavor, and goes well with Ginger Ale or other soda. It's smooth neat or on rocks as well. If you're into Canadian Whisky, this is a can't miss, and you won't break the bank trying it.

Another good Canadian is Collingwood. It's got the very traditional oak flavor, and a little more burn than Pendleton. Makes a good neat or on the rocks sippin' whisky.

If you're into Bourbon, I'll second Bulleit, especially as a mixer. A Bulleit Old Fashion or Hot Toddy are pretty fine when the weather turns cold.

Another nice mid-grade Bourbon that's worth trying is "Old Forester". It's got a really smooth flavor for a bourbon, and goes down easy neat, or in coffee.

If you're into Scotch, this is probably already a cliche, but Glenfiddich in any vintage, is a solid choice.

I spent the last year or so just trying different whiskies with some friends, to determine what would be the best choices to keep on hand, since I'm not one to drink in public. These are the once that offered the best "bang for the buck".

Hope it helps.
Cheers,

Aaron

echoes
06-30-2017, 10:49
Did a through search, but saw nothing posted yet about this product, Leadslingers Whisky.

Took a couple of photos today when this patriotic label caught my eye, (and I rarely drink whisky...)

The back label was so interesting mentioning Army Ranger, Green Berets, etc...truly have not seen anything like it before! ( The cashier held it up for my camera...lol.)


Has anyone tried it? :cool:


Holly

PRB
06-30-2017, 11:26
Looks like it would make a good defoliant.....but I'll try some for the teams sake.

JJ_BPK
06-30-2017, 11:41
Just a bunch of good ole boys.. :D

https://www.leadslingerswhiskey.com/home

echoes
06-30-2017, 11:53
Just a bunch of good ole boys.. :D

https://www.leadslingerswhiskey.com/home

JJ,

Read that first page on their site...ball to the wall, no sh*t for sure!;)

Okay PRB, cannot wait for the AAR!:o


Holly

PSM
06-30-2017, 11:56
Uh, oh. Moore, OK. They are guaranteed to get hit with by F5 tornado. :eek:

Pat

PRB
06-30-2017, 12:08
Uh, oh. Moore, OK. They are guaranteed to get hit with by F5 tornado. :eek:

Pat

From the looks of the vids they won't notice :)

cjwils3
07-01-2017, 17:01
...being a native Kentuckian, so I will go with a good bourbon. Of said bourbon, that's a tough choice. Maker's is at the top along with Woodford, though sometimes I can go a little "redneck" with a Wild Turkey 101 :D

PedOncoDoc
07-03-2017, 07:47
I've been on an E.H. Taylor small batch kick lately. It received a double gold medal at the San Francisco World Spirits competition this year, and it's not too pricey at $42/bottle. It may be difficlut to locate, and I'm surprised I can find it less than 10 minutes away from my home in the Utah Caliphate.

If you can find the single barrel ($60/btl), it might be worth a go, too. It beat out the Pappy Van Winkle 23 year in 2012.

The Reaper
07-03-2017, 10:33
Year to year, batch to batch, and even barrel to barrel, it changes.

Consider that with all of the premium selections today, the overall quality of the more common stuff has got to be down.

TR

Golf1echo
07-03-2017, 19:14
Year to year, batch to batch, and even barrel to barrel, it changes.

Consider that with all of the premium selections today, the overall quality of the more common stuff has got to be down.

TR

Out of curiosity I looked up the Clan name, not sure who McPhail is but a Gordon should know something of the fine spirit. Looks like a good place to gain some understanding.

https://www.gordonandmacphail.com/about-us/

By dand
In keeping with the theme : The image is from 1880 when the Gordon Highlanders 92nd Battle of Kandahar

Edit: Penn , I saw an add here in Colorado for a small distillery that made me think...." The difference between us and many other distillers is that we actually have a distiller".

mojaveman
07-03-2017, 22:20
So I'm cheap. Anybody else like Old Crow?

SF-TX
07-04-2017, 21:14
I've been on an E.H. Taylor small batch kick lately. It received a double gold medal at the San Francisco World Spirits competition this year, and it's not too pricey at $42/bottle. It may be difficlut to locate, and I'm surprised I can find it less than 10 minutes away from my home in the Utah Caliphate.

If you can find the single barrel ($60/btl), it might be worth a go, too. It beat out the Pappy Van Winkle 23 year in 2012.

Just finished my bottle of E.H. Taylor Single Barrel. That and the small batch are two of my current favorites. For best bang for the buck, I like Buffalo Trace and Evan Williams Single Barrel.

Streck-Fu
07-05-2017, 06:56
There is going to be a radical transformation in the industry as the new boutique distillery enter the market. A market that has been more than comfortable, not competing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/business/raising-a-glass-to-american-upstart-distillers.html?_r=0

I know Penn's post is older, but these boutique brands are popping up constantly and most can be traced back to just a few distilleries. Rather than distill their own spirits, they order a blended recipe to achieve a flavor profile from a major distiller that provides the spirits for many different brands. One of the largest is in Southern Indiana. And if you are a fan of the many Rye whiskeys that have come to market in the last few years, you thank this distiller's acquisition of the defunct Seagram's high rye that was in barrels when they went under.

LINK (http://www.thedailybeast.com/your-craft-whiskey-is-probably-from-a-factory-distillery-in-indiana)

Lawrenceburg, Indiana (not to be confused with bourbon-locale Lawrenceburg, Kentucky) is home to a massive brick complex that cranks out mega-industrial quantities of beverage-grade alcohol. The factory, once a Seagram distillery, has changed hands over the decades and was most recently acquired by food-ingredient corporation MGP. It is now a one-stop shop for marketers who want to bottle their own brands of spirits without having to distill the product themselves. MGP sells them bulk vodka and gin, as well as a large selection of whiskies, including bourbons of varying recipes, wheat whiskey, corn whiskey, and rye. (They also make “food grade industrial alcohol” used in everything from solvents and antiseptics to fungicides.) Their products are well-made, but hardly what one thinks of as artisanal. And yet, much of the whiskey now being sold as the hand-crafted product of micro-distilleries actually comes from this one Indiana factory.

The following is a listing of whiskeys that are likely distilled by MGP:

31 N 50 Bourbon (Dry Diggings)
4 Spirits Bourbon (4 Spirits)
1888 Bourbon (Diversa Brands)
99 Bottles Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Angel's Envy Rye (Louisville Distilling Co.)
Backbone Bourbon (Crossroads Vitners/Strong Spirits)
Belle Meade Bourbon (Nelson's Greenbriar)
Big Ass Bourbon (Strong Spirits)
Big Bottom Bourbon (Big Bottom)
Big House Bourbon (Underdog Spirits)
Big Y Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Bone Snapper Rye (Strong Spirits)
Breaker Bourbon (Ascendant Spirits)
Bulleit Rye (Diageo)
Chattanooga Whiskey 1816 Reserve (Chattanooga Whiskey Co.)
Clarion Bourbon and Blended Whiskey (Distilled Spirits Epicenter)
Cleveland Rye Whiskey (Cleveland Whiskey)
Coney Island Carlo Bourbon (Terresentia)
Copper City Straight Bourbon (Arizona Distilling Co.)
Corn Star Corn Whiskey (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
Cougar Bourbon & Rye (Foster's)
Defiance Whiskey (Crown Valley Distilling)
Filibuster Bourbon Rye (M.S. Trading LP)
George Dickel Rye (George Dickel)
George Remus Bourbon & Rye (Queen City Whiskey/Strong Spirits)
Henderson Rye (North Texas Distillers)
High Liquors Bourbon & Rye (High Liquors)
High West (an an element of many of their whiskeys blends)
Homestead Bourbon (Homestead American whiskey)
Hooker's House (some of their bourbons and their rye; Prohibition Spirits)
J. Green Bourbon and Rye (Shadow Beverage Group)
James E. Pepper 1776 Rye (James E. Pepper/Strong Spirits)
J.R. Revelry Bourbon (La Bodega Internacional/Speakeasy Spirits)
Joint Bourbon (Temperance Distilling Co.)
Knotter Bourbon & Rye (Blaum Bros.)
LeMont Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Mosswood American Light Whiskey (Mosswood Distillers)
O.K.I. Bourbon and Rye (New Riff Distilling)
Pinhook Bourbon (CJS Beverage Corp.)
Prichard's Rye (Prichard's)
Redemption Bourbon & Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
Riverboat Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
Rough Rider Bourbon & Rye (Long Island Spirits)
Seagram's 7 Blended Whiskey (Diageo)
Single Track Rye (Range and River Distilling)
Smokin' Joe's Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Smooth Ambler Old Scout Bourbon, Rye and Corn Whiskey (Smooth Ambler)
Smuggler's Notch Rye
Spirit of America Bourbon (Hobson & Roberts)
Spring Mill Bourbon (Heartland Distillers)
Taos Lightning (KGB Spirits)
Temperance Trader (American Whiskey and some bourbon; Bull Run Distilling)
Templeton Rye (Templeton)
Temptation Bourbon (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
The Saloon Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Tin Cup Whiskey (Proximo Spirits)
Troubadour Bourbon (The Original Texas Legend Distillery)
WH Harrison Bourbon (Tipton Spirits)
Widow Jane Rye (Cacao Prieto)
Willett Rye (Indiana ryes)
Winghart's Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)

SF-TX
07-05-2017, 08:45
I know Penn's post is older, but these boutique brands are popping up constantly and most can be traced back to just a few distilleries.

I found myself gravitating towards certain bourbon's, based on the flavor profile. After reading the following article, I realized it was because many of those I like probably started out with the same mash bill, or recipe. The differences in flavor are due to the difference in ageing and blending.

The Bourbon Family Tree

...In this chart—excerpted from _The Kings County Distillery Guide to Urban Moonshining, _on shelves now—the guys behind Brooklyn's oldest craft distillery parse out, once and for all, the complicated kissing cousins of the bluegrass state's bourbon industry.

This chart shows the major distilleries operating in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana, grouped horizontally by corporate owner, then subdivided by distillery. Each tree shows the type of whiskey made, and the various expressions of each style of whiskey or mash bill, in the case of bourbons. For instance, Basil Hayden’s is a longer-aged version of Old Grand-Dad, and both are made at the Jim Beam Distillery. Some of this is imprecise. Buffalo Trace has two bourbon mash bills, but it isn’t known which of its many brands are made from each, so this is a rough guess based on online commentary.

http://www.gq.com/story/bourbon-whiskey-family-tree

Ret10Echo
03-30-2021, 10:00
[Pulling this over from the Comedy Zone (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54247) AO...as the conversation began to be more "serious"]


This whisky was created in conjunction with the SOE Anniversary committee. 2020 marks the 80th anniversary of the creation of the Special Operations Executive (SOE).

Glen Breton Whiskey (https://glenbretonwhisky.com/store/soe-commemorative-whisky)

Canadian and Blended... not usually my thing but looking to see if anyone has wandered across this?


R10

Roguish Lawyer
03-30-2021, 11:59
[Pulling this over from the Comedy Zone (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54247) AO...as the conversation began to be more "serious"]




Glen Breton Whiskey (https://glenbretonwhisky.com/store/soe-commemorative-whisky)

Canadian and Blended... not usually my thing but looking to see if anyone has wandered across this?


R10

I have a client from Nova Scotia who swears by Glen Breton and has lamented lack of availability due to COVID. I have not tried it.

Bill Harsey
03-31-2021, 08:47
What, no Black Velvet fans here?

Humor intended. When working in the woods logging it was a whiskey of choice as consumed occasionally by loggers for reasons, probably mostly price.

Ret10Echo
03-31-2021, 08:49
What, no Black Velvet fans here?

Humor intended. When working in the woods logging it was a whiskey of choice as consumed occasionally by loggers for reasons, probably mostly price.

Plastic bottles ...

Shudder

:D

Peregrino
03-31-2021, 11:18
Plastic bottles ...

Shudder

:D

Don't turn your nose up too far; keeping a whisky that comes in a plastic bottle handy for cretins who like to color their whisky with a splash of coke saves the good stuff for more discerning palates.

JJ_BPK
03-31-2021, 15:42
Don't turn your nose up too far; keeping a whisky that comes in a plastic bottle handy for cretins who like to color their whisky with a splash of coke saves the good stuff for more discerning palates.

A man well spoken... :D

Ret10Echo
04-06-2021, 18:54
Don't turn your nose up too far; keeping a whisky that comes in a plastic bottle handy for cretins who like to color their whisky with a splash of coke saves the good stuff for more discerning palates.

Yeah....I'm out :D

Golf1echo
04-08-2021, 17:40
MRE liquor... interesting 3rd paragraph...:D
I hear good things about the Bourbon.

https://leatherwooddistillery.com/our-story