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JJ_BPK
10-17-2014, 03:40
Why would a 43 YO be allowed to join the Navy after having drug problems??

Because Joe needs support for his bid for POTUS???


Biden’s Son Hunter Discharged From Navy Reserve After Failing Cocaine Test
Lawyer Pursued Military Service as a Public-Affairs Officer


By
Colleen McCain Nelson and
Julian E. Barnes
Updated Oct. 16, 2014 7:35 p.m. ET
131 COMMENTS

WASHINGTON—Vice President Joe Biden ’s son Hunter was discharged from the Navy Reserve this year after testing positive for cocaine, according to people familiar with the matter.

Hunter Biden, a lawyer by training who is now a managing partner at an investment company, had been commissioned as an ensign in the Navy Reserve, a part-time position. But after failing a drug test last year, his brief military career ended.

Mr. Biden, 44 years old, decided to pursue military service relatively late, beginning the direct-commission process to become a public-affairs officer in the Navy Reserve in 2012. Because of his age—43 when he was to be commissioned—he needed a waiver to join the Navy. He received a second Navy waiver because of a drug-related incident when he was a young man, according to people familiar with the matter. Military officials say such drug waivers aren’t uncommon.

Mr. Biden was commissioned as an ensign on May 7, 2013, and assigned to Navy Public Affairs Support Element East in Norfolk, Va., a reserve unit, according to the Navy. In June 2013, after reporting to his unit in Norfolk, he was given a drug test, which turned up positive for cocaine, according to people familiar with the situation. Mr. Biden was discharged in February, the Navy said.

Mr. Biden said in a statement that it was “the honor of my life to serve in the U.S. Navy, and I deeply regret and am embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge. I respect the Navy’s decision. With the love and support of my family, I’m moving forward.”

The vice president’s office declined to comment. The Navy said Mr. Biden met all of the criteria for a direct commission, but declined to provide any details of why he was discharged. “Like other junior officers, the details of Ens. Biden’s discharge are not releasable due to the Privacy Act,” Cmdr. Ryan Perry, a Navy spokesman, said.

Navy personnel who are discharged from the military because of a failed drug test don’t receive honorable discharges. Most are given an “other than honorable” or “general” discharge. It isn’t clear which discharge Mr. Biden received, and the Navy doesn’t release the discharge status of low-ranking officers or junior enlisted personnel.

Mr. Biden was recommended for a direct commission after interviewing with a board of Naval officers, according to the Navy. The direct-commission process was created to allow the Navy to tap civilians with needed skills. The program allows civilians who have not attended the Naval Academy, a reserve-officer training course or officer-candidate school to join the military by attending only an abbreviated training program.

Link: (http://online.wsj.com/articles/bidens-son-hunter-discharged-from-navy-reserve-after-failing-cocaine-test-1413499657)


It took the Navy a while (June to February) to can his A$$???

Wanna bet that DRUG is a word that doesn't show on any of his records??

Golf1echo
10-17-2014, 04:55
What a Biden!

.................used my Modern Thesaurus.

MtnGoat
10-17-2014, 06:21
Father like Son, Joe is a Drunkin fool. Likely good thing that Congress and Senate don't have to be drug tested. Him and many others would "piss hot."

JJ_BPK
10-17-2014, 06:24
:munchin

Sohei
10-17-2014, 06:24
Well, I for one am certainly glad that he "respects the Navy's decision."

I think that was really good of him...especially after having to get two waivers. What a sacrifice.

Wow! That was certainly "big" of him.

Truly pathetic!

Paslode
10-17-2014, 06:41
Father like Son, Joe is a Drunkin fool. Likely good thing that Congress and Senate don't have to be drug tested. Him and many others would "piss hot."

I would wager their numbers would be in the high 90 percentile....

Streck-Fu
10-17-2014, 06:45
Fuck this guy and his whole family. I am certainly relieved that he cannot be associated with my fine Navy.

Snaquebite
10-17-2014, 06:50
Seems someone (?) sent the two authors of the article the procedures for getting full disclosure on his military records :D

Richard
10-17-2014, 06:54
I would wager their numbers would be in the high 90 percentile....

Based upon national trends, I wouldn't.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-trends

Richard

PedOncoDoc
10-17-2014, 08:39
Based upon national trends, I wouldn't.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-trends

Richard

I'd like to see the drug use rates in the children of the extremely wealthy and powerful. It was my experience/observation in a high school that catered to the elite (I believe my father brought the per capita income down by a full decimal point), that the wealthy teens and young adults (compared to those in the middle and upper-middle class) had a strong sense of entitlement and nothing productive to do with the large amounts of money given to them on a regular basis, so the money found ways of being smoked, snorted or injected.

YMMV.

Team Sergeant
10-17-2014, 09:22
Too bad the same set of rules doesn't apply to politicians......... Zero (and most of the liberals) would never be allowed to run for office.

And people wonder why there's such a drug problem in this country, crack smoking liberals........

Red Flag 1
10-17-2014, 10:30
Something about trees and apples comes to mind:rolleyes:.

No big surprise here.

VVVV
10-17-2014, 11:24
The drug problem is almost as big as the drinking problem!! :munchin

Badger52
10-17-2014, 13:11
Why would a 43 YO be allowed to join the Navy after having drug problems??

Because Joe needs support for his bid for POTUS???Or some scion of a pol's family is being groomed & wanted to be able to "check the veteran-yep box."

Blood in the water - someone will snag the record.
:munchin

Pete
10-17-2014, 13:19
Or some scion of a pol's family is being groomed & wanted to be able to "check the veteran-yep box."

Blood in the water - someone will snag the record.
:munchin

Never got the records of "Mr. I Served in Vietnam". He also never signed the 180.

Badger52
10-17-2014, 13:37
Never got the records of "Mr. I Served in Vietnam". He also never signed the 180.Yessir, true enough. Small club & we ain't in it.

Remington Raidr
10-17-2014, 14:09
A ticket-puncher got his ticket punched. No worries. No matter how bad they eff this country up he will have steak or lobster for dinner.:mad:

cbtengr
10-17-2014, 14:27
He is now officially a victim of being too well off, it's not his fault it's his parents fault, must be some sort of disability he can draw now, he has to be suffering from PTSD.

glebo
10-17-2014, 14:59
Well, he sure is gaining credentials on his resume for a democratic run someday... He'll fit in just fine..well, really, any party I suppose...

I bet we can get his birth certificate, college transcripts and any other doc's...ya think???

Loadsmasher
10-17-2014, 15:12
He is now officially a victim of being too well off, it's not his fault it's his parents fault, must be some sort of disability he can draw now, he has to be suffering from PTSD.

It's called Affluenza. I'm not making that up. Kid (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/)in Texas used it to get probation when he ran over and killed 4 people while drunk. It wasnt his fault, his parent's money made him not understand the consequences of his actions. It's a good thing Ted Kennedy isnt around, it could have been his excuse for everything.

Sohei
10-17-2014, 15:37
A ticket-puncher got his ticket punched. No worries. No matter how bad they eff this country up he will have steak or lobster for dinner.:mad:

Indeed. You or I do something like that, it would follow us for the rest of our lives and we would be washing cars for the duration.

He does it, he gets a lot of free publicity.

The Reaper
10-17-2014, 16:01
Where is the UCMJ that should have been imposed for a violation like this?

Everyone else I have seen come up hot gets popped with at least an Art. 15.

TR

Monsoon65
10-17-2014, 16:41
Where is the UCMJ that should have been imposed for a violation like this?

Everyone else I have seen come up hot gets popped with at least an Art. 15.


Different spanks for different ranks. Remember that loser of an MG the AF had a few years back? He was a lawyer and passed judgement on ethics cases.

Found out that, while married, he was "bonking the help" with several different enlisted females.

If it were me, I'd have been busted to E-1, forfeiture of pay/allowences, the whole smack. He was "forced" to retire at the lowly grade of Colonel.

Yep, he is a scumbag that will be making more on his AF pension than I will.

The Reaper
10-17-2014, 17:14
Different spanks for different ranks. Remember that loser of an MG the AF had a few years back? He was a lawyer and passed judgement on ethics cases.

Found out that, while married, he was "bonking the help" with several different enlisted females.

If it were me, I'd have been busted to E-1, forfeiture of pay/allowences, the whole smack. He was "forced" to retire at the lowly grade of Colonel.

Yep, he is a scumbag that will be making more on his AF pension than I will.

Biden was an Ensign, O-1, not an Admiral.

TR

Monsoon65
10-17-2014, 18:57
Biden was an Ensign, O-1, not an Admiral.


And a 44 year old lawyer, so he can't use the "dumb kid" excuse.

VVVV
10-17-2014, 19:05
Where is the UCMJ that should have been imposed for a violation like this?

Everyone else I have seen come up hot gets popped with at least an Art. 15.

TR

Maybe he wasn't on reserve duty for training at the time.

Badger52
10-17-2014, 19:31
Maybe he wasn't on reserve duty for training at the time.
In June 2013, after reporting to his unit in Norfolk, he was given a drug test, which turned up positive for cocaine, according to people familiar with the situation. Mr. Biden was discharged in February, the Navy said.

7-8 months must be within the "it ain't workin' out for either of us, hit the road" window for someone who was waivered in...
:rolleyes:

ddoering
10-17-2014, 19:32
He was just making his bones. This way he can be pro or anti military when the time comes for him to run.

Toaster
10-21-2014, 18:11
I'm sure that he told his command "I don't use cocaine, I just like the way it smells"

That and I'm sure his Chain of command were afraid for their careers.

Look at people who have only said things against the administration, much less actually had an impact on one of their kinfolk's life. Audit's for civilians, who knows what they'd do to a service member.

Richard
10-22-2014, 06:59
Where is the UCMJ that should have been imposed for a violation like this?

Everyone else I have seen come up hot gets popped with at least an Art. 15.

TR

In the 1980's at Benning it was mandatory rehab followed by an administrative discharge ( Ch13 or 14 ) with an OTH coding - unless there were other issues than the substance use involved. I had an SFC at 18 years of service who came up on a UA for cocaine and was chaptered - he fought it but to no avail, it just kept his pay coming for a further 4 months pending review and adjudication - ended his career w/o retirement benefits. My penh rai, khrup.

I'm not sure how the time cards work for the USNR or what the Navy regs offer, but might he have been quietly discharged under something like a Chapter 11 if he had less than a total of 180 accumulated days of AD time?

Hunter Biden is a lobbyist with connections and I can see the USN seeing an opportunity to cultivate that connection in the current budget wars with a created position as a part-time USNR PAO in the DC area. It appears to have been a purely political gamble on their part - and they lost their bet. Personally, I can't see his actions (not some college student or such dabbling, but an adult repeat offender with a family) as nothing short of a career ending move in many occupations - including politics - and hampering his lobbying business, as well.

What a macaroon.

MOO.

Richard

MFF3705
10-22-2014, 09:35
But, if you are going to be anything, be consistent....

http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2014/10/22/draft-n1908242?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl