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AspiringWarrior
09-25-2014, 01:19
I'm an active duty AF officer prepping for a Guard SF tryout, so I don't have seasoned NCOs to ask about this stuff. I have some basic land nav training, but I've never used pace count beads before. Where do you mount them? Do you wear them like a bracelet, attach them to your pack, put them on your belt...? What seems to work best? Or (and perhaps I should have led with this) are they not worth using at all?

Team Sergeant
09-25-2014, 08:06
I wore mine somewhere in the temporal lobe region......

City boy? ;)

Trappertod
09-25-2014, 08:24
Ditto, I remeber however when I went to Basic we wore them on our LBE. The beads tended to always find a way to work down the cord and your count was off. The temp lobe works best or as I saw a senior NCO one time do, he made lots of tick marks.


I wore mine somewhere in the temporal lobe region......

City boy? ;)

AspiringWarrior
09-25-2014, 13:21
Copy superfluous and ineffective. As to my urban-dwelling tendencies...yeah, I'd say that's a pretty accurate description. ;)

CSB
09-25-2014, 13:51
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446

An old thread but a good one.

Especially, see post number 10...

... that Pathfinder really knows a lot about land navigation ...:D

AspiringWarrior
09-25-2014, 14:35
I just read through the wise old pathfinder's post. ;) The knots would seem to solve the bead slippage problem. I'm going to go get a new base pace count today after work. I've only ever done a single measurement over a 100m track in training, but the scientist in me really likes the idea of taking a larger sample and averaging. I've also never kept DOPE on my body before. That seems like a solid idea, too. Thanks for the advice!!!

MR2
09-25-2014, 15:06
I just read through the wise old pathfinder's post. ;) The knots would seem to solve the bead slippage problem. I'm going to go get a new base pace count today after work. I've only ever done a single measurement over a 100m track in training, but the scientist in me really likes the idea of taking a larger sample and averaging. I've also never kept DOPE on my body before. That seems like a solid idea, too. Thanks for the advice!!!

Best pace count system I've seen used rubber grommets for the beads. They did not slip around and did not rattle or shine.

Flagg
09-25-2014, 15:27
I use a piece of para cord with 5 spring loaded/locking round beads, like these:

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1682985556_1/10-PCS-Black-Plastic-font-b-Spring-b-font-Stop-font-b-Toggle-b-font-Round.jpg

...mounted on my webbing/carrier, easy to reach with my non-master hand.

5 up, 5 down for 1000m

The link on the earlier post to another thread on knowing your pace counts for load carried, dark, up/down hill, close country, etc is solid.