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Team Sergeant
09-18-2014, 10:46
Yup, these are fine examples of sportsmen for our children to watch. Big strong men that beat women and kids in their off time......... National Felons League


Cardinals player released from jail amid domestic violence
allegations

Posted: Sep 17, 2014 2:32 PM
Updated: Sep 18, 2014 8:50 AM
By FOX 10 News Staff PM
National Football League.

Instead of football the focus has been on the arrests of several star players, the scandals hit close to home with a Cardinals player being arrested.

Jonathan Dwyer was at the Cardinals' practice Wednesday morning. That is where Phoenix Police arrested him at their training facility. He was taken to the 4th Avenue Jail, accused of five counts of domestic violence and criminal damage.

Police say Dwyer attacked his 18-month-old son and wife during two separate incidents in July.

Earlier this week, Dwyer scored a touchdown and helped the Cardinals beat the New York Giants.

Less than a week later, he was a suspect in a jail cell.

cont:

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/26560310/2014/09/17/cardinals-player-questioned

The Reaper
09-18-2014, 10:51
Well, I suspect that performance enhancing substances, lack of parenting, and an amoral life style will lead to that.

TR

TrapperFrank
09-18-2014, 11:12
It is hard for me to believe that any of the coaches I saw growing up ( Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry or Don Shula) would put up with any of the shenanigans that go on in the NFL these days. When pray tell will common sense kick in? At the present, the NFL is dead to me.

Streck-Fu
09-18-2014, 11:59
It seems these days, the coaches are not permitted to exercise any sort of discipline and mentoring is inhibited by union representatives and player agents.

MtnGoat
09-18-2014, 12:03
I say it is a reflextion of how of Public School Systems can't any sort of discipline and the overall effects of this.

Streck-Fu
09-18-2014, 12:12
Just looked it up. This guy is unhinged.

.LINK (http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/18/jonathan-dwyer-domestic-violence-charges-two-july-incidents)


Police report: Jonathan Dwyer headbutted wife after she refused sex



In the first encounter, police say Dwyer attempted to kiss and undress his wife, but she refused. Someone who heard the argument reported the assault to police, who showed up at the apartment but did not make an arrest. Dwyer hid in a bathroom and the wife denied he was in the home because the running back threatened to kill himself in front of her and their child if she told police about the assault, police said.

The next day, Dwyer punched his wife with a closed fist on the left side of her face, according to police. He also punched walls and threw a shoe at his son, listed as either 17 or 18 months old, who was not injured.

VVVV
09-18-2014, 12:29
Domestic violence isn't an NFL thing, it's happening everyday in homes all over the world.

PSM
09-18-2014, 12:30
Perception isn't, necessarily, reality:

NFL Crime Rate is Less Than Half That of the General Population

Although there seems to be an endless stream of stories about NFL player arrests and misconduct, this is largely because there are a lot of NFL players (and they’re famous). At the league’s peak (during training camps), there are about 2,560 players attached to NFL teams (limit 80 each). As I’ll show, arrest rates among NFL players are quite low compared to national averages for men in their age range — but there are some types of crimes that trail the pack significantly.

LINK: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/

This is a battle in the War on Men. Remember the false claim that domestic violence skyrocketed on Super Bowl Sundays?

Pat

Paslode
09-18-2014, 14:16
It is nothing new.

Back in the 90's Kansas City Chiefs were dealing with the likes of Albert Lewis, Dale Carter and Kevin Ross. Dale Carter in particular seemed to be in some kind of trouble weekly.

Andre Rison had some issues.

In 2012, former Chiefs star Larry Johnson was arrested in Las Vegas after allegedly choking his ex-girlfriend unconscious and leaving her in her underwear in a hotel hallway....This came four years after a 2008 incident at a night club in Kansas City, Mo., where Johnson was arrested after allegedly shoving one woman and spitting in the face of another.

In 2012, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend on Saturday, then drove to Arrowhead Stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager.

Three-year veteran defensive end Jared Allen, the Kansas City Chiefs' outstanding young pass rusher, has been suspended by the NFL for the first four games of the 2007 season for repeat violations of the league's substance abuse policy.

The suspension was first reported by The Kansas City Star on Friday afternoon. Allen was apprised of the league sanctions earlier in the day. The Chiefs had anticipated league sanctions against the defensive end.

Allen, 25, was twice charged with DUI in the past year.


And lest we forget the stellar role model Derrick Thomas and his 10 illegitimate children from 10 different women.

The list is endless.....

Dean Jarvis
09-18-2014, 15:39
You can take the boy out of the Ghetto but you can't take the Ghetto out of the boy:munchin

Five-O
09-18-2014, 16:00
I would GUESS the arrest rate for NFL players is lower than that of the general public in their demographic. My issues revolve around how individual teams and the NFL deal with these issues. Instead of facing an issue head on it seems the NFL likes to attempt to suppress and cover up any negative press (I.e. The Concussion scandal). This issue can be turned into a huge public awareness campaign with the NFLs stamp on it. Every time you try to lie/cheat/cover up.... It bites you in the ass. You'd think the NFL would have more sense.

akv
09-19-2014, 02:21
IIRC HOF RB Jim Brown was on the Larry King Show a few years back vehemently denying allegations he had ever thrown a woman off of his apartment balcony back in the day.

The first call in to the show was the guy who lived below Brown at the time. He provided the correct address, then asked Brown can you please explain the young lady who fell crashing down onto his deck from above? I love football but this is getting silly.

Maybe the NFL need two signs by the tunnel, one as you take the field " Hit People", and one as you leave "Stop Hitting People"...

JimP
09-19-2014, 07:47
Professional athletes play a child's game for a living. That's bound to attract adults who are emotional children.

Charles Barkley had it right (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8vh2MwXZ6o).

This.

For what it's worth - I think it a bit gay to pay huge amounts of money to buy some dudes shirt and walk around with his name on your back. But, hey....since gay is the "in thing", maybe some of our senior military leadership will buy-into it trying to make 20-star General.

Team Sergeant
09-19-2014, 12:47
I would GUESS the arrest rate for NFL players is lower than that of the general public in their demographic. My issues revolve around how individual teams and the NFL deal with these issues. Instead of facing an issue head on it seems the NFL likes to attempt to suppress and cover up any negative press (I.e. The Concussion scandal). This issue can be turned into a huge public awareness campaign with the NFLs stamp on it. Every time you try to lie/cheat/cover up.... It bites you in the ass. You'd think the NFL would have more sense.

I agree. But most associations, clubs, leagues remove the bad apples when they find them, the NFL, not so much.


Michael Vick should be flipping hamburgers at Burger King, but he's still in the NFL.

It will always be the National Felons League to me.

Five-O
09-19-2014, 15:13
I agree. But most associations, clubs, leagues remove the bad apples when they find them, the NFL, not so much.


Michael Vick should be flipping hamburgers at Burger King, but he's still in the NFL.

It will always be the National Felons League to me.

Follow the money. NFL stars make teams and the league heaps of money and let's face it ... That's what counts to the executives making decisions. Only a public out cry forces the league to get rid of the bad apples. I'm guessing mike Vic would have great difficulty filling out a McDonalds application.

Lan
09-19-2014, 16:40
It will always be the National Felons League to me.

FWIW, another fitting name- Nonprofit Felons League.

Team Sergeant
09-19-2014, 17:47
Follow the money. NFL stars make teams and the league heaps of money and let's face it ... That's what counts to the executives making decisions. Only a public out cry forces the league to get rid of the bad apples. I'm guessing mike Vic would have great difficulty filling out a McDonalds application.

Again I agree.

Pete
09-21-2014, 15:32
Not like there is a double standard......

But how many saw this story on the news getting banged on the big drum.

U.S. Soccer Ripped For Letting Hope Solo -- Accused Of Domestic Violence -- Play On

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201409/hope-solo-domestic-violence-usa-soccer-national-team

"There is a growing clamor of media voices calling for an athlete accused of domestic violence to be pulled from competition until the case is resolved. But unlike the recent stories that have unfolded in the NFL, this time the call is for the U.S. women's national soccer team to suspend goalie Hope Solo...."

Down at the bottom John Smallwood wrote

"If you've ever attended a match played by the U.S. women's soccer team, you know thousands of girls in the stands scream in adoration. Their passion for their female soccer heroes is as intense as that for any NFL player. Solo is one of the USA's biggest stars, and kids are drawn to her. .."

Paslode
09-21-2014, 17:42
Not like there is a double standard......

But how many saw this story on the news getting banged on the big drum.

U.S. Soccer Ripped For Letting Hope Solo -- Accused Of Domestic Violence -- Play On

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201409/hope-solo-domestic-violence-usa-soccer-national-team

"There is a growing clamor of media voices calling for an athlete accused of domestic violence to be pulled from competition until the case is resolved. But unlike the recent stories that have unfolded in the NFL, this time the call is for the U.S. women's national soccer team to suspend goalie Hope Solo...."

Down at the bottom John Smallwood wrote

"If you've ever attended a match played by the U.S. women's soccer team, you know thousands of girls in the stands scream in adoration. Their passion for their female soccer heroes is as intense as that for any NFL player. Solo is one of the USA's biggest stars, and kids are drawn to her. .."


She is a train wreck. I hear more and more kids and parents talking about her stunts and her appeal seems to be in the decline.

Divemaster
09-23-2014, 22:13
Is it okay if I still like football? Yes. Yes it is. Especially after a nail bitter Seahawks game against Denver. We (okay, they) aren't looking like the Superbowl champs. This will be an interesting season, felons aside.

mark46th
09-24-2014, 21:31
It happened off the field. The police and the District Attorney have already dealt with it. He should be playing. The NFL should only worry about what happens on the field. Deal with it.