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MtnGoat
08-21-2014, 04:45
Less armor, but more protection? The new, high-tech push to improve military vehicles

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/08/19/less-armor-but-more-protection-the-new-high-tech-push-to-improve-military-vehicles/

For all of us that have Rolled in a GMV know how much more mobile and agile they are over any MRAP. MRAPS are great; better protection, CROWS/RWS, IR Cameras and all that. But their weight make them stay on hard ball roadways more and can't move cross country like a GMV.

For me this looks like a new money train just as CYBER is replacing the War Machine in the military industry.

Mills
08-21-2014, 06:11
"Good thing you were riding in that MATV/MRAP, otherwise you would have been toast"

I have heard that several times, at this point............it only infuriates me that we continue to operationally limit ourselves by restricting movement to MSR's and well traveled paths, whilst driving a giant submarine on wheels.

Restriction to roads = pattern of movement
Pattern of movement = concentration of explosives
Concentration of explosives = common threat to all vehicles

It doesn't matter how much armor we use, there is always a vulnerability. In this case, the vulnerability being simply, more explosives.

MtnGoat
08-21-2014, 11:45
"Good thing you were riding in that MATV/MRAP, otherwise you would have been toast"

I have heard that several times, at this point............it only infuriates me that we continue to operationally limit ourselves by restricting movement to MSR's and well traveled paths, whilst driving a giant submarine on wheels.

Restriction to roads = pattern of movement
Pattern of movement = concentration of explosives
Concentration of explosives = common threat to all vehicles

It doesn't matter how much armor we use, there is always a vulnerability. In this case, the vulnerability being simply, more explosives.

Amen Brother.. we stayed off the roadways as much as teh MRAPs would let us. But Still I hated doing the drive to the FOB for Resupplies on a Named Hardball MSR.

I don't know what hurt more. My jaw muscle pain or Sphincter muscle.. Mr. Hankey died from you air!!

blacksmoke
08-21-2014, 16:25
How long before the Iranians/Russians learn to put holes through it?