IRS official Lois Lerner

[Team Sergeant]

Won't be long until someone starts giving individuals like Lerner and her cronies a dirt nap.:munchin



House panel asks DOJ to consider criminal prosecution for Lerner
Published April 09, 2014
·FoxNews.com
A House committee voted Wednesday to formally ask the Justice Department to consider criminal prosecution against ex-IRS official Lois Lerner, the figure at the center of the political targeting scandal.

The House Ways and Means Committee voted 23-14 to send the criminal referral, which accused her of "extreme bias." The vote marked an escalation in Republicans' push to confront Lerner over her role in the agency's controversial practice of singling out conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status for extra scrutiny.

"If we don't stand up for the right of the American people, who else will?" committee Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich., said after the vote.

A 14-page letter to Attorney General Eric Holder outlined Republicans' case against the former IRS official, saying she "may have violated multiple criminal statutes."

The letter accused Lerner of using her position to improperly target conservative groups and deny their constitutional rights; of impeding an inspector general investigation by giving misleading statements; and of risking the disclosure of confidential taxpayer information.

"This investigation has uncovered serious, unprecedented actions taken by Lois Lerner that deprived conservative groups of their rights under the Constitution," Camp said in a statement. "Today's action highlights specific wrongdoing for the Department of Justice to pursue. DOJ has a responsibility to act, and Lois Lerner must be held accountable."
Cont:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/09/lawmakers-weigh-referring-lerner-case-to-doj-for-prosecution/

[JimP]

Unfortunately, the stooge Holder won't do jack-squat about any of this. he'll run the clock out claiming it is "already being investigated".

It may be getting time to "feed the hogs".

[PRB]

Give her immunity and call her to a hearing so she has to spill her guts...the only way to get any truth or resolution.

[Badger52]

DoJ investigating an IRS official at Congress' behest.

"To hell with them fellas. Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."
- Josey Wales

[The Reaper]

Give her immunity and call her to a hearing so she has to spill her guts...the only way to get any truth or resolution.

Concur.

Let her talk, ask questions, and charge her with perjury of anything that she gets wrong.

Go for the next level up, if not two levels. Keep at it till you reach the top, ala Nixon.

TR

[Dean Jarvis]

Yeah, Holder's going to be all over this one.:munchin

Don't get me started with Holder.:mad:

[Snaquebite]

Holder will do nothing because he and the DOJ would be implicated along with a parade of others. You know the legalities of the IRS actions were explored and then just ignored.

[Golf1echo]

Any opinions?
http://www.seymourmfg.com/shovels/shovels/

[Snaquebite]

Any opinions?
http://www.seymourmfg.com/shovels/shovels/

and you posted this in this thread because????

[Golf1echo]

and you posted this in this thread because????

1st sentence Post#1, perhaps I took it a little to literal? It has been a long day and much of it was spent sourcing tools for our new Pioneer Kits. Using a good tool to do the work is a thing of beauty.

[Trapper John]

Golf1- Little piece of advice for you: When a QP ask you a question, just answer it. We don't really care about your excuses. That will be especially prudent if the QPs screen name is in green ;)

[Peregrino]

Golf1- Little piece of advice for you: When a QP ask you a question, just answer it. We don't really care about your excuses. That will be especially prudent if the QPs screen name is in green ;)

You do have to admit - they appear to be nice shovels. And given where a real investigation (highly unlikely) proceeding along the immunity/perjury lines TR favors (me too!) could go; she really might get "Fostered".

[The Reaper]

Not to speak for someone, but I took it to mean that Ms. Learner has dug herself quite a hole, and seems to be accelerating her efforts, thus necessitating additional shovels.

TR

[Golf1echo]

Golf1- Little piece of advice for you: When a QP ask you a question, just answer it. We don't really care about your excuses. That will be especially prudent if the QPs screen name is in green ;)
Yes Sir, understood...

[Paslode]

Won't be long until someone starts giving individuals like Lerner and her cronies a dirt nap.:munchin

Or possibly death from self inflected nail gun injuries or jumping from .GOV buildings and monuments.

[MtnGoat]

Concur.

Let her talk, ask questions, and charge her with perjury of anything that she gets wrong.

Go for the next level up, if not two levels. Keep at it till you reach the top, ala Nixon.

TR
Bingo TR. I'm with you.

[fasteddie565]

Give her immunity and call her to a hearing so she has to spill her guts...the only way to get any truth or resolution.

Concur.

Let her talk, ask questions, and charge her with perjury of anything that she gets wrong.

Go for the next level up, if not two levels. Keep at it till you reach the top, ala Nixon.

TR

You give her immunity and then she takes one for the team, says it was all her doing and then walks away with some big retirement and a job on K street polishing the knob of Holders Chronies.

These people have no honor, what makes you think she will tell the truth, or that Holder would prosecure her if she did lie?

[Team Sergeant]

You give her immunity and then she takes one for the team, says it was all her doing and then walks away with some big retirement and a job on K street polishing the knob of Holders Chronies.

These people have no honor, what makes you think she will tell the truth, or that Holder would prosecure her if she did lie?

I could not agree more........ a dirt nap would be more appropriate..........

[Peregrino]

You give her immunity and then she takes one for the team, says it was all her doing and then walks away with some big retirement and a job on K street polishing the knob of Holders Chronies.

These people have no honor, what makes you think she will tell the truth, or that Holder would prosecure her if she did lie?

Damned Realists!:p

[The Reaper]

You give her immunity and then she takes one for the team, says it was all her doing and then walks away with some big retirement and a job on K street polishing the knob of Holders Chronies.

These people have no honor, what makes you think she will tell the truth, or that Holder would prosecure her if she did lie?

Perjury and contempt can hold someone a long time.

Holder needs to go.

TR

[Pete]

If she admits it and takes one for the team then she just screwed all her underlings.

That means all the IRS employees with Obama screen savers and posters on the wall of their IRS office knew what they were doing and didn't say anything about it.

Whole bunch of IRS employees should be in jail....but ain't going to happen.

After HRC in 2016 this will really become a third world "Democrat dictatorship" enabled by low level minions.

Oh, me? The one organization I don't mess with is the IRS. I never take any "questionable" deductions and NEVER lie on my return. My goal is that if I'm audited I'm walking out with money. If its on my return I have a receipt for it.

[Firelord]

I conducted a number of internal investigations for the Fire Department. There is a process for compelling an individual to answer questions directly related to their job, called a "Garrity Warning". (Garrity vs New Jersey) The individual must answer questions or face disciplinary action, including termination. Their 5th amendment rights are upheld since nothing in the interview can be used against them in any subsequent criminal proceeding. They can still be prosecuted, as long as the evidence comes from somewhere else and did not originate from the interview. Tricky, but can be done. Since the implications of the allegations are so huge, just curious why this was not done early on. just my 2 cents.

[FlagDayNCO]

Problem is that the "evidence" and "investigation" would come through or from the FeeBees. They have all the bases covered, a full dug out, plus half of your dug out, the stands filled, and even the hot dog vendor is on their side.

About the time you figure out it may be better to leave and play a different game or sport, they're eyeballs deep into that too.

Civil Service is almost completely Left Wing now. There are only TWO political appointees at the IRS, I have been told, with the entire IRS being Civil Service.

The Left Wing has played it out well, carrying out a coup d’état right under our noses.

[Sdiver]

It's about F-ing time !!!!!

House panel votes to hold ex-IRS official Lerner in contempt of Congress

A House committee voted Thursday to hold Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress, as Republicans escalated their bid to "get to the bottom" of the former IRS official's role in the political targeting scandal.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 21-12 to hold Lerner in contempt. The party-line vote followed hours of heated debate on the committee.

The contempt measure heads next to the House floor. House Speaker John Boehner predicted earlier this week that unless Lerner agrees to cooperate, the full House will support contempt -- from there, the case would likely head to the courts.

"This is not an action I take lightly," House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., said before the vote. But he said lawmakers "need Ms. Lerner's testimony to complete our oversight work and bring truth to the American people."

The vote comes a day after the House Ways and Means Committee voted to refer Lerner's case to the Justice Department for possible criminal prosecution. In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, the committee claimed Lerner may have violated "one or more criminal statutes." The Department of Justice is not obligated to take up the committee's request.

Both committee actions divided Republicans and Democrats, who have decried the steps against Lerner as unwarranted and political.

Democrats argue that Lerner properly invoked her Fifth Amendment right not to testify last year, and again last month.

"Guilty or innocent, Ms. Lerner has a constitutional right to remain silent on this issue," Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said. Further, she said if the committee were truly serious about pursuing this case, they would offer Lerner immunity.

Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., said the case would "be laughed out of court."

But Republicans, in bringing up the contempt measure, claim Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment right when, during a hearing in May, she gave a voluntary statement declaring her innocence. Lerner again refused to testify last month.

"The only path to the truth is through this committee," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said Thursday.

Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the top Democrat on the oversight committee, has compiled a growing list of constitutional experts who say the contempt case is weak. Issa countered with a memo from the House general counsel's office that says he followed proper procedures.

Lerner has emerged as a central figure in investigations by two congressional committees into the IRS applying extra scrutiny to conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status. Lerner's lawyer, William W. Taylor III, said she has committed no crimes.

"If Lois Lerner continues to refuse to testify, then the House will hold her in contempt," Boehner said Wednesday. "And we will continue to shine the light on the administration's abusive actions and use every tool at our disposal to expose the truth and ensure the American people get the answers they deserve."

Lerner is an attorney who joined the IRS in 2001. She retired last fall, ending a 34-year career in federal government, which included work at the Justice Department and the Federal Election Commission.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/10/house-panel-to-hold-contempt-vote-on-ex-irs-official-lerner/

[Cobwebs]

Yeah, Holder's going to be all over this one.:munchin

Don't get me started with Holder.:mad:

Amen..:(

[Team Sergeant]

This is just getting better and better............


Ted Cruz: Impeach Eric Holder for ‘defying Congress and the rule of law’

By Cheryl K. Chumley
The Washington Times
Friday, April 11, 2014

Sen. Ted Cruz said Attorney General Eric Holder ought to be impeached if he doesn’t take tough action against former IRS official Lois Lerner, who’s been tied to the agency’s targeting-of-tea-partyers scandal.

During a talk with Sean Hannity on the host’s radio show on Thursday, Mr. Cruz called Mr. Holder the “most partisan attorney general the country has ever had,” and said that he should be impeached for “defying Congress and the rule of law,” Breitbart reported.

For example: Mr. Holder has not indicted anybody in the eight months after the inspector general found that the IRS has indeed wrongfully targeted conservative and tea party groups, Mr. Cruz said.

That’s just not acceptable, Mr. Cruz added.

The Department of Justice has traditionally maintained a “bipartisan tradition of resisting partisan pressure and upholding the rule of law,” but not so under Mr. Holder, Mr. Cruz charged.

The Texas senator also slammed President Obama for a “pattern of lawlessness [that] is breathtaking,” he said.

“We have never seen a president [who so] consistently ignores the law and brazenly defies the law,” Mr. Cruz said, pointing to what he characterized as the president’s executive overrule of existing immigration, marriage, drug and welfare laws.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/11/ted-cruz-impeach-eric-holder-defying-congress-and-/#ixzz2ya8b60rF
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

[pcfixer]

I wholeheartedly agree with Holder should go, along with Lois Learner. This is just the tip on the iceberg in blatant disregard for the rule of law.

[Snaquebite]

Holder will do nothing because he and the DOJ would be implicated along with a parade of others. You know the legalities of the IRS actions were explored and then just ignored.

Hmmmmm.
Former head of the IRS tax-exempt division Lois Lerner communicated with the Justice Department about the possibility of criminally prosecuting certain tax-exempt groups, new documents reveal.
According to the conservative government accountability group Judicial Watch, email exchanges between Lerner and Nikole C. Flax, the Chief of Staff to then-Acting IRS Commissioner Steven T. Miller, reveal there were discussions about possible prosecution of tax-exempt groups that were believed to have “lied” about political activities.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/16/lerner-was-in-contact-with-doj-about-prosecuting-tax-exempt-groups/#ixzz2z8uqWDeD

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/16/lerner-was-in-contact-with-doj-about-prosecuting-tax-exempt-groups/

[DIYPatriot]

House Republicans have dug up emails from Lois Lerner in which the former IRS official refers to some in the Republican Party as “---holes” and "crazies" – an exchange they say shows her “animus” toward conservatives.

In the November chain, Lerner also makes an off-color comment about class.

She describes visiting an “Edwardian English village” full of large houses -- “which have been ruined by letting the hoi paloi live there!” (Hoi polloi is a term for common people.)

“These people have ruined everything with their equality push!” she writes.

Full Story (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/30/emails-show-ex-irs-official-lerner-using-derogatory-terms-for-republicans/)

[Badger52]

I listened to one of these "crazies" the other day. She was talking directly to Koskinen duriing his 4th(?) trip up to the hill. She mentioned that he headed, at once, the most feared and loathed agency in government. She mentioned that a widow from her area had been trying to settle an estate for 2 years but kept getting letters back "asking for the make & model of her bed!" like it was some precious antique. She mentioned that folks from her area were completely fed up and were on the verge of taking matters into their own hands.

Then Cynthia Lummis, the rep in the House from Wyoming, told Koskinen that, unlike her colleagues, she would not be tendering him an apology for his repeated trips up to the committee, nor would she or the citizens of Wyoming apologize for asking the same questions over & over because "we are going to keep asking them until we get to the truth." (She then yielded back to Issa, who was having folks leave them their pocket change of clock-time as he had way more than 5 minutes of things to ask about.)

I got the impression she was genuinely pissed. Then again, she's a crazy.

[tonyz]

Judicial Watch: Missing IRS Emails are Backed Up
DOJ attorney admits Lois Lerner emails exist
BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
August 25, 2014 3:31 pm

Judicial Watch, a watchdog group which has been investigating the IRS scandal, has learned that Lois Lerner’s supposedly missing emails may still exist within a federal government back-up system.

After months of administration officials insisting that two years worth of Lerner’s emails were irretrievable following a computer crash, a Department of Justice attorney admitted to Judicial Watch Friday that the federal government backs up all their computer records in case of catastrophe.

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testified just a few months ago that Lerner’s emails were lost, while the IRS claimed it had gone to “unprecedented efforts” to retrieve the emails.

The news of the “lost” emails was met with wide mockery and disbelief in the press, with many suspecting that some back-up of the records must exist.

Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, told Fox News that the Department of Justice now claims it would be “too hard” to retrieve Lerner’s emails from the back-up system.

Fitton was irate over the administration’s deception: “Everything we’ve been hearing about scratched hard drives, missing e-mails of Lois Lerner, other IRS officials, other officials in the Obama administration–it’s all been a pack of malarkey.”

“There’s no such thing as Lois Lerner’s missing e-mails,” said Fitton. “It’s all been a big lie. They’ve been lying to the courts, to the American people and to Congress. It is really outrageous.”

http://freebeacon.com/politics/judicial-watch-missing-irs-emails-are-backed-up/

[Badger52]

[B]The news of the “lost” emails was met with wide mockery and disbelief in the press, with many suspecting that some back-up of the records must exist.Normally I'd say that some need to get over their sense of disbelief. The mechanisms by which backups occur are more slipshod & haphazard in the .gov than most people would ever imagine. Certainly most agencies are not resourced to actually maintain separate backups that conform with records retention law (sure, write another unrealistic law). That doesn't even get into actually dumping contents of what are supposed to be official communications to paper & forklifting them to a records-holding area somewhere when it's time to rotate the backup tapes.

But there's one little problem, hence the technical term "malarkey" as applied to their story:

They have already shown that they were able to produce email traffic from before & after the period in question.

[Badger52]

Email reveals Lois Lerner ignored political expenditures by unions

LINK to full story. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/01/email-reveals-lois-lerner-ignored-political-expenditures-by-unions/?intcmp=latestnews)

The official at the center of the Internal Revenue Service tea party scandal once dismissed complaints that labor unions were not reporting millions of dollars in political activities on their tax forms, according to an email obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

In 2007, Lerner responded directly to a complaint that some major labor unions reported completely different amounts of political expenditures when filing with the IRS and the Department of Labor.

How could this be?

[ddoering]

She needs to be waterboarded.

[Team Sergeant]

She needs to be waterboarded.

You're being too nice, what she really needs is a dirt nap.......

[The Reaper]

You're being too nice, what she really needs is a dirt nap.......

Only after the questions have been answered.

Who knew about it and when?

TR

[ddoering]

A dirt nap is too kind. She should have to blow the entire Iraqi Army instead.

[PSM]

A dirt nap is too kind. She should have to blow the entire Iraqi Army instead.

After a little donkey fluffing. :D

Pat

[tonyz]

After a little donkey fluffing. :D

Pat

That poor donkey.

[MR2]

You're being too nice, what she really needs is a dirt nap.......

Only after the questions have been answered.

She should have to blow the entire Iraqi Army instead. all four of them...

After a little donkey fluffing.

and then waterboarded.

[Box]

I'm guessing the DOJ will be bringing formal charges any day now...




...has anyone seen this seasons celebrity cast for dancing with the stars?

[DIYPatriot]

This completely made my day. For a moment, I thought about just posting it under the Happy Thought of The Day thread, but felt this was more relevant. Even her own neighbors tossed her out of their premises.

Lois Lerner tries busting into neighbor's home to avoid questions from the press.Neighbor: “We don't want her in our house"

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88vMSbX_xA&feature=youtu.be)

[atticus finch]

This completely made my day. For a moment, I thought about just posting it under the Happy Thought of The Day thread, but felt this was more relevant. Even her own neighbors tossed her out of their premises.



Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88vMSbX_xA&feature=youtu.be)

That video is what you do to them, because that is what they fear the most.
Facing the truth about themselves, having that exposed to the public and being publically delegitimized.
You'll notice she couldn't even turn around and face the camera, not even to say "eff you" If they have no fear of the scarlet letter being applied to thier actions, why didn't she tell the reporter where to stick it? Instead she ran and kept her back to the camera, that is fear.
Her behavior, as does the rest of them, runs to the sociopathic.

[PSM]

It's odd the demeanor shift from her arrogance before elected members of Congress and being confronted by actual citizens in her neighborhood.

Pat

[Badger52]

It's odd the demeanor shift from her arrogance before elected members of Congress and being confronted by actual citizens in her neighborhood.

PatAnd her "neighbor's" version of "get off my lawn."
Cue Bob Dylan background music: "How does it feel.......?"

On Heinlein's Luna she would just quietly find herself on the other side of an airlock or a tear in her pressure suit.

[DIYPatriot]

Then you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

As many as 30,000 lost emails from Lois Lerner -- the ex-IRS official at the center of the agency's targeting scandal -- have been recovered by federal investigators.

The IRS has already turned over thousands of Lerner emails to congressional investigators but has said the remainder are gone forever because Lerner’s hard-drive crashed in 2011. And in June, agency Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress that back-up tapes containing the missing emails had been destroyed.

“The IRS has continually dragged its feet, changed its story, and been less than forthcoming with information related to its egregious violation of Americans’ First Amendment rights,” said Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan, a member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which has spearheaded congressional probes on the issue.

“These e-mails are long overdue, and underscore again why we need a special prosecutor to conduct an unhindered investigation. Hopefully these e-mails will help us get to the truth,” he continued.

Article (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/22/federal-watchdogs-uncover-thousands-lost-lerner-emails-decoding-to-take-weeks/)

[JimP]

they just now surfaced as it takes a long time to scrub 30K e-mails. Gotta get rid of the incriminating ones don't you know.

works like a charm for the Hildebeest so you can't blame a girl for trying.

[DIYPatriot]

In my previous life, we were able to extract encrypted data from heavily damaged and formatted drives. Aside from that, federal regs require quite a bit of redundancy as far as data retention is concerned. It shouldn't be too big of a deal to connect all those dots. Yeah, I know, I'm taking a lot for granted. Things such as integrity, honesty and transparency come to mind. Regarding those regs, they're only good if they're followed and/or not altered by the powers that be. I am not holding my breath. I found the timing (post-elections) to be quite telling of this little discovery. Maybe I'm a bit of a dreamer as I am hopeful that she (and others) will be indicted over this...and even if so, they'll just be one pardon away from this tiny little matter being swept underneath the rug of the most transparent govt we've ever known. FML :rolleyes:

As Clark W Griswold said, "Hallelujah...holy shit...where's the tylenol!?!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66nSZzBNkTU).

[Dean Jarvis]

Here's the latest. Lois Lerner and her friends in the IRS and WH are going down.
There can hardly be anything more destructive to our Constitution than for the U.S. Government to stop a group of American citizens, in this case conservative grass roots groups from exercising their free political speech rights under Barry's directive. :mad:

“There is potential criminal activity,” Treasury Deputy Inspector General Timothy Camus told the House Oversight Committee Thursday.

One of the emails disclosed to the public has Lerner telling another IRS official, “No one will ever believe that both your hard drive and mine crashed within a week of each other.”

[tonyz]

Given Dean Jarvis' post above this is better placed here (I posted in another old IRS thread). Apologies.

This type of behavior by bureaucrats is sufficient reason to be suspicious of massive government intervention in healthcare and the Internet. The affordable healthcare act will not be affordable and net neutrality will not be so neutral.

The discovery of more than 30,000 Lois Lerner emails was announced last November.

The complete article at link below discusses testimony before Congress earlier this week specifically regarding those missing emails. The very short vid at link below sums up the matter.

"Republicans at the hearing questioned why the IRS took two months to determine that it could not recover the lost records when the inspector general’s office managed to find the backup tapes in about two weeks."

Investigators probing for criminal activity with Lois Lerner’s missing emails
By Josh Hicks February 27 at 6:00 AM
Washington Post

Federal investigators are looking for possible criminal activity in connection with the missing emails of a central figure in the Internal Revenue service’s targeting scandal.

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration testified at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on Thursday that it tracked down nearly 33,000 emails from ex-IRS official Lois Lerner.

The records date back to 2001, which is 10 years beyond what the IRS has said it could access for investigators.

The inspector general’s office said it is working to identify any messages that the IRS has not already sent to congressional investigators, who are examining the Lerner’s involvement in the IRS targeting scandal.

The watchdog agency found the backed-up emails by consulting with IRS information-technology specialists, according to TIGTA Deputy Inspector General for Investigations Tim Camus.

“They were right where you would expect them to be,” he said at the rare late-night hearing, which lasted until about 10 p.m.

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testified before Congress last year that the backups were no help in recovering Lerner’s lost emails, in part because the IRS overwrites them every six months.

Camus said the IRS’s technology specialists told investigators that no one from the agency asked for the tapes, raising doubts about whether the agency did its due diligence in trying to locate Lerner’s emails, or possibly greater troubles.

“There is potential criminal activity,” Camus said.

<snip>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLzAQsIzKzs

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2015/02/27/investigators-probing-for-criminal-activity-with-lois-lerners-missing-emails/

[Team Sergeant]

Here's the latest. Lois Lerner and her friends in the IRS and WH are going down.
There can hardly be anything more destructive to our Constitution than for the U.S. Government to stop a group of American citizens, in this case conservative grass roots groups from exercising their free political speech rights under Barry's directive. :mad:

“There is potential criminal activity,” Treasury Deputy Inspector General Timothy Camus told the House Oversight Committee Thursday.

One of the emails disclosed to the public has Lerner telling another IRS official, “No one will ever believe that both your hard drive and mine crashed within a week of each other.”




Just remember who runs the DOJ. The FBI only investigates what it wants to and what the DOJ wants it to......

You really think the FBI is going to go all in and investigate this? Along with the Secret Service who should have all the emails between the Squatter in the White House and the IRS?

I seriously doubt it. There's not a federal agency out there that doesn't have a liberal left wing "leader"......

[ddoering]

"Back up tapes? We thought you said backed up racism. No wonder they could find it."

[Team Sergeant]

"Back up tapes? We thought you said backed up racism. No wonder they could find it."

LOL, read that today..... Holder is calling his f**kup's (criticism) racism. Holder, you're another moron that should be flipping hamburgers, you're an idiot and a race baiter.

[Sdiver]

Is this a surprise to anyone? :munchin :mad:

DOJ: No contempt charges against Lois Lerner

The U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia will not seek contempt charges against former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner for her refusal to testify before Congress, the Justice Department (DOJ) announced Wednesday.

It has been nearly a year since the House voted to hold Lerner in contempt in a mostly party-line vote. At the time, the charges were referred to the local U.S. attorney. The Justice Department officially informed House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, of U.S. Attorney Ronald Machen's decision in a letter sent to Boehner's office Tuesday.

"A team of experienced career prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney's Office was assigned to carefully assess the referral. After extensive analysis, the team concluded that the House Committee followed proper procedures in notifying Ms. Lerner that it had rejected her claim of a Fifth Amendment privilege and gave her an adequate opportunity to answer the Committee's questions," the Justice Department said in a statement. "However, the team also concluded that Ms. Lerner did not waive her Fifth Amendment privilege by making general claims of innocence. The Constitution would provide Ms. Lerner with an absolute defense if she were prosecuted for contempt."

Congress' contempt vote stems from Lerner's appearances before the House Oversight Committee. At the start of one hearing in 2013, Lerner made an opening statement declaring her innocence before invoking her Fifth Amendment right. Republicans charge that by delivering her opening statement, she waived her rights against self-incrimination. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and then the full House of Representatives, voted to hold Lerner in contempt for her refusal to testify on March 5, 2014.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-no-contempt-charges-against-lois-lerner/


... and from Col. Allen West's site ...

DOJ won’t press contempt charges against Lois Lerner

The Department of Justice has decided it’s not going to press contempt charges against Lois Lerner.

Big shock, right?

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia will not seek contempt charges against former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner for her refusal to testify before Congress, the Justice Department (DOJ) announced Wednesday.

It has been nearly a year since the House voted to hold Lerner in contempt in a mostly party-line vote. At the time, the charges were referred to the local U.S. attorney. The Justice Department officially informed House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, of U.S. Attorney Ronald Machen’s decision in a letter sent to Boehner’s office Tuesday.

“A team of experienced career prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s Office was assigned to carefully assess the referral. After extensive analysis, the team concluded that the House Committee followed proper procedures in notifying Ms. Lerner that it had rejected her claim of a Fifth Amendment privilege and gave her an adequate opportunity to answer the Committee’s questions,” the Justice Department said in a statement. “However, the team also concluded that Ms. Lerner did not waive her Fifth Amendment privilege by making general claims of innocence. The Constitution would provide Ms. Lerner with an absolute defense if she were prosecuted for contempt.”


In other words, she did her duty for the Obama administration by targeting conservatives who opposed the president, so her reward is a get out of jail free card.

This is, without a shadow of a doubt, the most corrupt administration to ever sit in the White House.

There’s a message the federal government is sending out by not pursuing charges against Lerner, and it’s that your First Amendment right to voice your political opinions doesn’t matter.

You need to be a good little lap dog and get with the program, or there will be consequences.

Those hired to do the president’s dirty work are obviously protected, which means the egregious violations the administration carries out will likely go unpunished.

I don’t know about you, but I’m totally ready for some fresh blood in the White House.

http://www.youngcons.com/doj-wont-press-contempt-charges-against-lois-lerner/

[Box]

...fuck you America,

Its no longer "we the people", it's "you the people"
..."we" the elitists are exempt

[MR2]

let them eat organic GMO Michelle approved tofu cake...

[Badger52]

..."we" the elitists are exemptWe need a Saturday night massacre; and not the Nixonian kind.

The IRS admitted to a federal court there was a second personal email account that Lois Lerner, the official at the heart of the Tea Party targeting scandal, used to conduct agency business.

The email account apparently was set up under the name, "Toby Miles," which sources tell Fox News is the name of Lerner's dog.

Link to online article. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/25/irs-reveals-existence-another-lois-lerner-email-account/?intcmp=hpbt1)

[Hand]

We need a Saturday night massacre; and not the Nixonian kind.



Link to online article. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/25/irs-reveals-existence-another-lois-lerner-email-account/?intcmp=hpbt1)

From the comments:
Seems like the whole dang Federal Govt. uses private email accounts .... why don't they just chat on Facebook and be done with it .....

[tonyz]

Lois Lerner has that certain Caitlynesque look...perhaps, a TV series is in Lerner's future...a reality email theme...Lerner and Hildabeast compete to delete the most emails over a weekend !

[ddoering]

Or a prison fashion show with their competing designs.

[tonyz]

Or a prison fashion show with their competing designs.

...bet they both look <shudder> "great" in prison jump suit orange!
Would be an epic drag show, though !

Throw in that Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz and Alpo might even sponsor the fricken event.

[Golf1echo]

I'd rather see her briefly on an episode of "Most Dangerous Catch".

[Badger52]

Or a prison fashion show with their competing designs.Martha Stewart could host it.

[DIYPatriot]

Apparently, I had it all wrong in my mind. There was no crime. It was just poor management.

DOJ closes Lois Lerner investigation with no charges (http://www.wptz.com/politics/urgent-doj-closes-lois-lerner-investigation-with-no-charges/36012266)

The Justice Department notified members of Congress on Friday that it is closing its two-year investigation into whether the IRS improperly targeted tea party and other conservative groups. There will be no charges against former IRS official Lois Lerner or anyone else at the agency, the Justice Department said in a letter. The probe found "substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment and institutional inertia leading to the belief by many tax-exempt applicants that the IRS targeted them based on their political viewpoints. But poor management is not a crime."

"We found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution," Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik said in the letter.

[PedOncoDoc]

Apparently, I had it all wrong in my mind. There was no crime. It was just poor management.

DOJ closes Lois Lerner investigation with no charges (http://www.wptz.com/politics/urgent-doj-closes-lois-lerner-investigation-with-no-charges/36012266)

...thus saving face for Obama by not forcing his hand to a pardon....

[cbtengr]

This administration is having an epidemic of poor management and it starts at the top.

[Badger52]

The timing of the release from DoJ is noteworthy and, imo, completely designed. The Hildabeast testimony will take center-stage now and this is, as usual & convenient, dumped into the "trash" of the Friday news cycle. It will cease to exist by the first kickoff on Sunday.
:rolleyes:

[bandycpa]

Next time I get a speeding ticket, I wonder if I can just say it was poor speed management.

After all, that isn't a crime right?

[MR2]

And we are another step closer to anarchy.

[Team Sergeant]

Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik, ultra-left wing tool appointed by the Teleprompter himself.

This left-wing corruption needs to end, before the lois learner types start receiving dirt naps.

http://www.mainjustice.com/2013/08/02/obama-taps-kadzik-to-lead-justice-departments-legislative-affairs-office/

And yes brother, "And we are another step closer to anarchy."


Edit to add: What I've not realized is how far 'left" some of the federal agencies have gone like the FBI..... besides the former king of Chicago who else have they busted on corruption charges since the Teleprompter took office?

[tonyz]

The emperor himself telegraphed the Lerner/IRS result before the investigation was complete...

"...not even a smidgen of corruption.”

Lerner/IRS misdeeds were prolly just another video inspired event.

[Badger52]

Edit to add: What I've not realized is how far 'left" some of the federal agencies have gone like the FBI..... besides the former king of Chicago who else have they busted on corruption charges since the Teleprompter took office?Team Sergeant, it's easy to see how it happens. You know that leadership (pink in this case) fosters the climate from the top-down. It's not just the figurehead getting confirmed, who's the face of an agency. It's all their kool-aid drinking buddies as executive appointees occupying all those secondary & tertiary positions that influence the daily operational direction. Oh, and no job available for this good-buddy? Hell; we'll just create a new Deputy Assistant Under Secretary for Whatever Affairs. (And check off another box on another milestone/metric from the last IG report; "Yes Senator, we're moving forward on that.")

Quislings all. As to a reckoning...? Apparently the tipping point has not been yet reached.
:mad:

[MtnGoat]

Well like a SF Brother that is a Lawyer said, "She still has the statute of Limitations. She can be charged usually within 3 years. She is not out of the woods. I am hoping federal felonies are six years hopefully a federal prosecutor under a Republican POTUS will charge her."

So better later than never!!

[JimP]

3 year statutes are usually with relation to Torts (personal injuries). Criminal SOL's are usually longer (5-10 years). However, once the decision was made, it is likely NOT to be overturned with the turmoil of a new administration.

Anyone here read UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES by John Ross?

If Hillary gets elected, it is getting dangerously close to "time to feed the hogs".

[DIYPatriot]

Would this be considered a consolation prize for the DOJ's refusal to bring charges against Lerner?

Impeaching the IRS Director

The IRS targeting and muzzling of conservative groups during the 2012 presidential campaign is an outrage for which almost no one has been held accountable. Which brings us to the news that House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz is introducing articles of impeachment on Tuesday against IRS Commissioner John Koskinen.

Mr. Koskinen was not at the IRS during the targeting, but the former Freddie Mac executive has become the single greatest hurdle to public accountability. He was touted as a reformer in his 2013 confirmation hearings. Instead he has helped the Administration stonewall Congress’s investigation. Mr. Chaffetz’s four articles of impeachment assert that Mr. Koskinen “engaged in a pattern of conduct that is incompatible with his duties as an Officer of the United States.”


Continued (http://www.wsj.com/articles/impeaching-the-irs-director-1445975237)

[Badger52]

Would this be considered a consolation prize for the DOJ's refusal to bring charges against Lerner?
Not by me.

Edited to add: Impeachment of such a quisling doesn't get close in this case.

[DIYPatriot]

Not by me.

Edited to add: Impeachment of such a quisling doesn't get close in this case.

Totally agree! And I should've used pink...the impeachment of the director should be a starting point of things to come. Sadly, it isn't.

[Hand]

Looks like the new boss of the IRS, Koskinen, takes the stance in front of Congress today that you can't be charged with a crime unless you intended to commit one.

Here is the stream: https://www.c-span.org/video/?415546-1/irs-commissioner-john-koskinen-testifies-capitol-hill

Comey stood in front of Congress and threw the good faith of the American people in the FBI down the toilet insisting klinton was innocent in the same vein.

I think I'm going to not intentionally not pay my taxes. Bet that wont turn out well.

Pardon my snark, but doesn't negligence apply in either of these cases? (not so much with Koskinen, he wasn't here during that bitch Lerner's career.) And why the fu*ck isn't she in Siberia turning big rocks into little rocks?

[JimP]

Yes - they were NOT "specific intent" crimes; they were general intent. Just like speeding. You don't have to intend to speed to be found guilty of speeding. You sped...you get fined.

Unless you are a Clinton.

[PedOncoDoc]

Yes - they were NOT "specific intent" crimes; they were general intent. Just like speeding. You don't have to intend to speed to be found guilty of speeding. You sped...you get fined.

Unless you are a Clinton.

Any of our lawyer friends want to weigh in on the concept of ,"Ignorantia juris non excusat"?

[Mills]

And MSNBC, along with the rest of the Libtards are celebrating it.

This administration is based on one thing and one thing only.

The anti-anti communist agenda.

Period.

[Badger52]

Any of our lawyer friends want to weigh in on the concept of ,"Ignorantia juris non excusat"?As well as "conscious guilt" (just generally, I know any Clintons are incapable).

[cedsall]

I just started to watch the video and honestly, lost interest about five minutes in.

IRS Commissioner: "We treasure equality at the IRS and strive to treat everyone equally....blah, blah, blah"

Why do I know how this all turns out.

Nothing to see here, move along.

You could catch a member of our "political class" screwing a sixteeen year old intern while watching kiddie porn and simultaneously slitting the throat of Chris Hansen and the MSNBC news team and the answer would be "Well, we invaded his right to privacy".

F*** them all.

[Badger52]

Why do I know how this all turns out.
The same as any hearings to ask the Director of Faking Bogus Investigations why they've granted so much immunity to Clintonistas yet couldn't bring a case. Theater.

[tonyz]

Bread and circuses.

[Team Sergeant]

Bread and circuses.

Yes.