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JJ_BPK
02-20-2014, 09:20
The Ukraine is in shambles and people are dying..

BUT the dummies at CNN show a BB gun sniper on their front page??

:munchin

http://www.cnn.com/

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 09:23
The Ukraine is in shambles and people are dying..

BUT the dummies at CNN show a BB gun sniper on their front page??

:munchin

http://www.cnn.com/

LOLOL, great reporting.....:D

Richard
02-20-2014, 09:35
Air rifles are a popular sport in Europe, are very accurate and can be quite powerful.

Around here, I take a Daisy Powerline 880 pump air rifle when I take my dogs out - it fires BBs and .177 pellets - 10 pumps and it's as powerful as a .22 and I use it to shoot jackrabbits and ground squirrels with pellets.

People just look at it like a BB gun, but... ;)

Richard

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 09:37
Air rifles are a popular sport in Europe, are very accurate and can be quite powerful.

Around here, I take a Daisy Powerline 880 pump air rifle when I take my dogs out - it fires BBs and .177 pellets - 10 pumps and it's as powerful as a .22 and I use it to shoot jackrabbits and ground squirrels with pellets.

People just look at it like a BB gun, but... ;)

Richard

Sorry, but a BB gun is right up there with a knife in a gunfight....;)

CNN would not know the difference anyway, it could have been a drawing of a rifle and those at CNN would be wetting their panties.

This was probably the "sniper" CNN was reporting about in 2008: Clinton says she 'misspoke' about sniper fire http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/25/campaign.wrap/

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 09:41
Someone capture that picture before CNN deletes it......

mark46th
02-20-2014, 09:42
I normally wouldn't worry about a country imploding in a civil war but a large portion of the old USSR's nukes are in the Ukraine...

Nevermind- The Ukraine sent it's nukes back to Russia... Send them more BB guns...

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 09:47
I normally wouldn't worry about a country imploding in a civil war but a large portion of the old USSR's nukes are in the Ukraine...

John Kerry is on his way to Kiev.

The State Dept said Kerry is taking a Syrian delegation with him as the Syrians have stepped up and informed the Ukraine that it would be sending in teams to remove the nukes from the Ukraine before the fighting got worse.

MR2
02-20-2014, 09:53
John Kerry is on his way to Kiev.

Since dodging (BB) sniper fire worked so well for the previous SOS (Sack of State).

Snaquebite
02-20-2014, 10:04
Like this?
27452

Actually this one's better
27453

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:06
Like this?
27452

Perfect.....

And in related news the Teleprompter Reader of the United States is currently playing his 2899 game of golf and he wishes John Kerry and his Syrian delegation "all the best".

Snaquebite
02-20-2014, 10:09
Perfect.....

And in related news the Teleprompter Reader of the United States is currently playing his 2899 game of golf and he wishes John Kerry and his Syrian delegation "all the best".

I like that....

TROTUS.....almost rhymes with SCROTUM

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:22
Meanwhile Congo expert Dr. Ben Affleck will be testifying before the United States Senate. (You can't make this stuff up...... personally I think we should just detonate a 100 megaton weapon in our own atmosphere and just speed up this train wreck.....)


"Affleck is slated to appear before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee next Wednesday to discuss the troubled central African country of 75 million people. The Argo director has shown a keen interest in Congo in recent years through his philanthropic organization, the Eastern Congo Initiative."

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/02/19/ben_affleck_to_testify_before_congress_as_an_afric a_expert

JJ_BPK
02-20-2014, 10:23
Someone capture that picture before CNN deletes it......

Attached..

Richard, I have a BSA Lightening, runs a bit over 800 FPS with a 15gr pointed pellet, BC of .009. I run if thru a calculator and with a 25yd zero, the 100 yd head shoot only gets 16 ft lbs.. Not a real "one shot one kill" type of weapon.. Not sure it would punch a hole in a Babushka??

Toaster
02-20-2014, 10:25
Someone capture that picture before CNN deletes it......

Too easy... :D

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:28
For all you sillyvilian's ;) you can tell it's a BB gun by the hinge pin just forward of the "snipers" thumb in the center of the stock. Plus if you look at the thickness of the barrel as compared to his thumb or finger you'll see it's very thin.

Make no mistake this is CNN's "BB Sniper".........

kgoerz
02-20-2014, 10:30
Check out the vice special on the Congo. There is no saving that place.
Theres General Buck Naked. He makes all of his fighters including himself go into battle naked.

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:35
Check out the vice special on the Congo. There is no saving that place.
Theres General Buck Naked. He makes all of his fighters including himself go into battle naked.

Doesn't matter US Army Special Forces "will" be called into action once "Congo expert Dr. Ben Affleck" testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Five bucks says "Congo expert Dr. Ben Affleck" breaks down and cries during his "testimony".

Hollywood is not happy until American soldiers are dying, how else do great war movies get made? BHD make a few very wealthy.

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:38
LOLOLOL, CNN is now aware and they have removed the "BB Gun Sniper" pic.......:D

PSM
02-20-2014, 10:39
They just changed the photo! ;)

Pat

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:40
CNN's BB gun Sniper can be found here:

Truce crumbles amid gunfire in Ukraine, protesters claim 100 dead
By Phil Black, Nick Paton Walsh and Michael Pearson CNN
updated 11:32 AM EST, Thu February 20, 2014


http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/20/world/europe/ukraine-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Richard
02-20-2014, 10:50
Shooting BBs for target practice, my rifle punches through galvanized trash cans at 25m-35m.

I shoot ground squirrels and rabbits at 35m-75m with pellets.

Some of the competition quality air rifles we fired with the BW mountain troops for target practice were much more powerful than my Powerline.

The Ukrainians are fighting in a city, and I would think a competition quality air rifle (like the one in the CNN pic appears to be) coulld be pretty effective in close quarters if properly employed to wound, maim, disrupt against an unsuspecting target with little or no ballistic head protection.

I wouldn't poopoo it off as somebody's Red Ryder BB gun and, to me, that pic is more an example of the nature of the fight going on (e.g., show up and fight with what ya brung) than of any misreporting by CNN or some other news network.

MOO.

Richard

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 10:55
Shooting BBs for target practice, my rifle punches through galvanized trash cans at 25m-35m.

I shoot ground squirrels and rabbits at 35m-75m with pellets.

Some of the competition quality air rifles we fired with the BW mountain troops for target practice were much more powerful than my Powerline.

The Ukrainians are fighting in a city, and I would think a competition quality air rifle (like the one in the CNN pic appears to be) coulld be pretty effective in close quarters if properly employed against an unsuspecting target with little or no ballistic head protection.

I wouldn't poopoo it off as somebody's Red Ryder BB gun and, to me, that pic is more an example of the nature of the fight going on (e.g., show up and fight with what ya brung) than of any misreporting by CNN or some other news network.

MOO.

Richard

Sorry Richard, as a trained Special Forces sniper, I would.... I would also employ a bow and arrow before a BB gun in battle.... I'm not really sure why you're attempting to defend CNN?

This just illustrates CNN's gross incompetence in serious news reporting.

CNN's reporters cannot tell the difference between a real gun and a fake/BB gun.

Team Sergeant
02-20-2014, 11:02
And before you continue to defend CNN's reporting let's not forget CNN's lies and gross incompetence concerning "Tailwind".....

Just google Special Forces, Tailwind and CNN.


http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/02/tailwind.johnson/

Toaster
02-20-2014, 11:11
CNN's reporters cannot tell the difference between a real gun and a fake/BB gun.

I found what they'd call an M16 :D

BryanK
02-20-2014, 11:50
I like that....

TROTUS.....almost rhymes with SCROTUM

SCROTUM? Sorry Coward Ruling Over the Trepidus Unwashed Masses? :confused: :D

mark46th
02-20-2014, 13:46
He's gonna put someone's eye out.

JimP
02-20-2014, 14:51
Doesn't matter US Army Special Forces "will" be called into action once "Congo expert Dr. Ben Affleck" testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Five bucks says "Congo expert Dr. Ben Affleck" breaks down and cries during his "testimony".

"Dr Ben Affleck - Congo Expert", knows as much about the Congo as he does his way around female anatomy. Now, give him a ticket to boys town and the cat knows what he's talking about!!

freakin' hollweirdo's. Wish they'd shut their holes and do whatever it is they do when not seeking attention.

ddoering
02-20-2014, 15:01
Attached..

Richard, I have a BSA Lightening, runs a bit over 800 FPS with a 15gr pointed pellet, BC of .009. I run if thru a calculator and with a 25yd zero, the 100 yd head shoot only gets 16 ft lbs.. Not a real "one shot one kill" type of weapon.. Not sure it would punch a hole in a Babushka??

You'll shoot an eye out......

Sdiver
02-20-2014, 16:03
Now THIS is a BB gun/Air Rifle ....

Taken from this link ..... http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/24695/53/

Hey, CNN and AP reporters gotta start someplace.

TacOfficer
02-20-2014, 17:01
BTW: The pic with the BB gun is still up on their iPad app site:rolleyes:

Lan
02-20-2014, 17:25
He's gonna put someone's eye out.

Lol. Enemy is gonna get Hathcocked by a BB gun.

Monsoon65
02-20-2014, 20:20
Probably one of the few funny lines in the 1990 movie "Men at Work" when one character is questioning the other about using a pellet rifle to shoot someone.

Carl: It allows me to seriously aggravate a situation without actually changing the course of history. It also stings like a bitch.

Wiseman
02-20-2014, 21:18
The sniper that media was talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ack_8gNUB5s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLc6tQeHAIU#t=81

Team Sergeant
02-21-2014, 14:28
One thing to remember though is that these people fighting back are not trained Special Forces snipers :cool:

You don't need to be a trained anything to fight back..... cut the power to all the gov buildings including the police station. Cut the power to the entire city. Attack the infrastructure instead of the cops. Going head to head without guns is not a good idea. Electrical substations are a great choice and they don't shoot back. Transmission lines are also perfect. Go for their communications, cell towers, telephone cables, microwave stations. Once Rome is burning the rats will run as rats do.

A good read for all those training in revolution ;)

CARVER!
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm34-36/appd.htm

mark46th
02-21-2014, 16:11
I wouldn't call that guy a sniper. Maybe marksman or a sharpshooter. If he was a sniper he would be in a concealed position...

Badger52
02-22-2014, 17:34
CARVER!
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm34-36/appd.htmExactimundo.

CNN likes to keep moving their stuff around at the speed of tweets. For those who've never done it before a simple search (this example) of "Ukrainian sniper CNN cache" gets it done. They forgot, like Ollie North about PROFS notes, they don't really get deleted. Use 'cache' in your search when they play that game.

Debo
02-22-2014, 18:58
Lasky, Guard at Walleyworld: That's not a real gun, is it Clark?

Clark: Are you kidding? This is a Magnum P.I.

Lasky, Guard at Walleyworld: It's a BB gun!

Clark: Don't tempt me. I could put an eye out with this thing.

Lasky, Guard at Walleyworld: You couldn't even break the skin with that thing.

Clark: Yeah it could, yeah it could. it could break the skin and start a very ugly infection.


:munchin

JJ_BPK
02-23-2014, 05:40
When I started this thread, I was mocking CNN for front paging a "sniper" with a pellet gun,, NOT the pellet gun.

Here are a couple pellet penetration test. Very unprofessional, but they will do nicely as examples. These test are at hunting ranger for pellet gun.

In the phone book test, the author mentions that European guns are limited to 12ft lbs. I know for a fact that the UK guns are. I suspect that in Eastern EU & Russia, the locals are not inhibited and crank up their "toy" guns. The US pellet guns are not limited in energy output.

.177 and .22 cal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8voc6iQvsMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JiOYa7pQA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZfute--upc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yaxAVu8rY

big bore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72fBUCyvZuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELQWQ1SpxU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELQWQ1SpxU

pig head penetration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFuLAqmRZVw

tonyz
02-24-2014, 08:31
Ukrainian Gun Owners Association’s official statement
20.02.2014 | Politics & Guns, Legal & Law Issues, Self-defense | Author: Web admin
Українською По-русски

Ukrainian Gun Owners Association’s official statement

Today every citizen of Ukraine understands why our country has hundreds of thousands of policemen. Last illusions were crushed when riot police used rubber batons and boots at the Independence Square on peaceful citizens.

After such actions we realize that it is not enough to only adopt the Gun Law.

As of today Ukrainian Gun Owners Association will start to work on the preparation of amendments to the Constitution, which will provide an unconditional right for Ukrainian citizens to bear arms.

People should have the right to bear arms, which will be put in written into the Constitution.

Authorities should not and will not be stronger than its people!

Armed people are treated with respect!

http://zbroya.info/en/blog/2650_ukrainian-gun-owners-associations-official-statement/

Box
02-24-2014, 10:32
Last illusions were crushed when riot police used rubber batons and boots at the Independence Square on peaceful citizens.

I find it disturbing that they used rubber boots on peaceful civilians...

miclo18d
02-26-2014, 06:33
I find it disturbing that they used rubber boots on peaceful civilians...

They don't want to get blood stains on those pressed trousers! If rubber boots are good enough for the FARC, They are good enough for Ukrainian Storm Troopers!

I expect more from you! :D

Wiseman
02-26-2014, 11:33
Putin puts Russian troops on alert

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/26/us-ukraine-idUSBREA1G0OU20140226

Apparently there will "war games" on the Ukranian border hmmm...kind of like there were war games prior to the invasion of Georgia.

MR2
02-26-2014, 18:10
Putin puts Russian troops on alert

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/26/us-ukraine-idUSBREA1G0OU20140226

Apparently there will "war games" on the Ukranian border hmmm...kind of like there were war games prior to the invasion of Georgia.

Site of the original Obama Red Line.

mark46th
02-26-2014, 18:31
"Putin puts Russian troops on alert"... Wiseman

Let's get in the Wayback Machine and go to Hungary in 1956. If Eisenhower didn't have the nerve to stop a Russian invasion, why would anyone expect Obama to stand up to them?