View Full Version : Another loss in the fight for states rights.........
Saw this one coming a mile away............
Another example of calculated misuse of power by the federal Government in order to fulfill a political agenda.
(CNN) -- The U.S. government will recognize same-sex marriages as equal to traditional marriages in all federal legal matters, including bankruptcies, prison visits and survivor benefits, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Saturday.
The expansion of such federal recognition will include 34 states where same-sex marriage isn't legal, but the new federal benefits being extended to those states will apply only where the U.S. government has jurisdiction, Holder said.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/08/politics/holder-same-sex-marriage-rights/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews
Simply amazing. Time for a change in D.C. change is good.
Simply amazing. Time for a change in D.C. change is good.
Isn't that how we ended up where we are in the first place? Who knew that one word could be so powerful.
More than half the voters in this Country can't wait to change things.
Come on, November.
Isn't that how we ended up where we are in the first place? Who knew that one word could be so powerful.
Change is a two way street. Hope and change elected O the first time, I have no idea what elected him the second time.
More than half the voters in this Country can't wait to change things.
Come on, November.
Too bad the popular vote doesn't control things.
States rights are key to the existence of America. If everyone just took comfort in the fact that if you don't like the way things are you can vote with your feet and move.
Too bad these days, the squeaky wheel gets all the attention, mainly because squeaky wheels attract other squeaky wheels and ultimately lead to votes, which lead to the perpetuation of the left wing political agenda which makes everything "diverse" and "accommodating to all"
Too bad the popular vote doesn't control things.
States rights are key to the existence of America. If everyone just took comfort in the fact that if you don't like the way things are you can vote with your feet and move.
Too bad these days, the squeaky wheel gets all the attention, mainly because squeaky wheels attract other squeaky wheels and ultimately lead to votes, which lead to the perpetuation of the left wing political agenda which makes everything "diverse" and "accommodating to all"
I was talking to my girl in Peru about this and she can not understand what the hell is going on in the US. I explained it to her and she said it sounded like a dictator not to a democrancy. I agreed!!!!
She does not know what has happened to our values. We had another long discussion about Smoking Pot. She said that all her friends that started smoking pot in high school all moved on to Coke and are addicted now. She knows that it is a gateway drug and said that they are destroying our country.
I was talking to my girl in Peru about this and she can not understand what the hell is going on in the US. I explained it to her and she said it sounded like a dictator not to a democrancy. I agreed!!!!
She does not know what has happened to our values. We had another long discussion about Smoking Pot. She said that all her friends that started smoking pot in high school all moved on to Coke and are addicted now. She knows that it is a gateway drug and said that they are destroying our country.
The Country's devolving into one big Choom Gang.
ddoering
02-09-2014, 20:12
Change is a two way street. Hope and change elected O the first time, I have no idea what elected him the second time.
The change he took from working Americans and gave to the other 47%.
The Reaper
02-09-2014, 22:08
If it feels good, do it.
TR
Sir, are you okay then with onerous gun control laws in the more blue states?
I it would be a small price to pay if states were allowed stick to values and beliefs without the federal Government meddling in its affairs. But that isn't happening, because we still have erroneous gun control in several states with no end in sight in regards to their ridiculous legislation across the board. Let those states be the liberal high ground whilst the rest of us sit back and watch them fall.
Personally, I have no desire to live in California, Illinois, Maryland, New York, Washington and now..........Colorado Anyways.
rubberneck
02-10-2014, 08:59
States rights have been dead since July 8th 1868. Slavery was evil but it should have been excised with a scalpel not an atomic bomb.
States rights have been dead since July 8th 1868. Slavery was evil but it should have been excised with a scalpel not an atomic bomb.
14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.
Is this what you are referring to? The topic of slavery could have a whole thread all to itself .
The U.S. government will recognize same-sex marriages as equal to traditional marriages in all federal legal matters, including bankruptcies, prison visits and survivor benefits, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Saturday.
The expansion of such federal recognition will include 34 states where same-sex marriage isn't legal, but the new federal benefits being extended to those states will apply only where the U.S. government has jurisdiction, Holder said
Regardless of where you stand on the issue of sexual orientation, I know with out a doubt, that you support the 1st Amendment, and have in fact, sworn to defend it with your life. How is this not related?
States rights have been dead since July 8th 1868. Slavery was evil but it should have been excised with a scalpel not an atomic bomb.
Well said, although that crap was more about resources and money than slavery.
rubberneck
02-10-2014, 13:08
14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.
Is this what you are referring to? The topic of slavery could have a whole thread all to itself .
Slavery was the sideshow. Lincoln despised the slaves but he found them a useful tool when trying to kill the 10th Amendment. Lincoln was the first big government republican. The 14th amendment gave congress the right to pass any law that they deemed to protect the 14th. In later years congress has abused that power with a series of laws that have stripped power from the states.
The Reaper
02-10-2014, 21:08
How is recognizing same-sex marriages infringing on values and beliefs? I don't care if a politician or state doesn't like gun ownership as a belief or value, but I ask that they respect my beliefs and values.
So you see a right delineated in the Bill of Rights as the moral equivalent to the legal approval of a deviant lifestyle?
TR
How is recognizing same-sex marriages infringing on values and beliefs? I don't care if a politician or state doesn't like gun ownership as a belief or value, but I ask that they respect my beliefs and values.
What if your beliefs and values found it acceptable to frolic with dogs and children under the age of 10.......should I be expected to respect you?