View Full Version : Navy fails to intercept drone, $30 million to taxpayers
Team Sergeant
12-30-2013, 16:52
So let me get this straight the USS Chancellorsville (CG-62) a Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser, one of the most powerful ships to ever set sail failed to shoot down a target drone and took $30 million dollars in damage. I guess it was a good thing it was not heavily armed Somali pirates that hit the ship..........:rolleyes:
I'm guessing obama will now promote the Captain of that ship to CDR Joint Chiefs!
http://news.usni.org/2013/12/30/navy-six-months-repairs-drone-struck-ship-will-cost-30-million
Well done Navy, well done.......
The Reaper
12-30-2013, 17:30
CIWS not working either?
I'm guessing obama will now promote the Captain of that ship to CDR Joint Chiefs!
It would pretty much have to be an improvement to the current one.
TR
craigepo
12-30-2013, 17:30
$30 million would be a huge statement of charges on Joe Snuffy's LES.
mark46th
12-30-2013, 17:54
I sense that Dr Evil is alive and well. He took control of the drone, demanding one miili-yun dollars. Or else!
Drone pilot must've been pissed he and his other fellow drone pilot warriors aren't getting their medal.
"Drone pilots not getting our medals, hum .... I'll show them."
mojaveman
12-30-2013, 20:18
BQM-74 flight plans are typically built with an offset that would keep the ship safe in case control of the drone was lost. :(
I bet someone is going to loose their job over this.
The Reaper
12-30-2013, 21:59
BQM-74 flight plans are typically built with an offset that would keep the ship safe in case control of the drone was lost. :(
I bet someone is going to loose their job over this.
Looks like a cruise missile.
TR
Team Sergeant
12-30-2013, 22:41
BQM-74 flight plans are typically built with an offset that would keep the ship safe in case control of the drone was lost. :(
I bet someone is going to loose their job over this.
Screw the standoff, the most technologically advanced and well armed warship on the planet and it could not stop a drone?
Had I been the boss I would have a couple of back-ups, like targeting the drone with all weapons systems if the primary weapon failed.
No problem, it's on the taxpayers now. :munchin
edit to add, It seems the drone hit exactly where it would in a real fight taking the ship out of battle. Imagine a real missile armed with real explosives hitting the same spot. Well done drone pilot, you showed them who's boss, now let me get out my wallet.
$30,000,000.00 to fix that little hole? Give me enough JB Weld and duct tape and I can fix it a whole lot cheaper than that.
Team Sergeant
12-31-2013, 09:16
$30,000,000.00 to fix that little hole? Give me enough JB Weld and duct tape and I can fix it a whole lot cheaper than that.
And six months to do it........
Drones = 1
Navy = 0
Stiletto11
12-31-2013, 09:31
But they can beat Army 12 years in a row in football, go figure.
So what your saying is they can intercept Army drones, but not Navy ones?
Kyobanim
12-31-2013, 11:09
Yeah, use duct tape. That's a "2 roll repair" job. It's even the right color.
Seems like an awful spot for a computer control room.
Golf1echo
12-31-2013, 11:57
I sense that Dr Evil is alive and well. He took control of the drone, demanding one miili-yun dollars. Or else!
It sounds like it would have been 29 milliyun dollars cheaper just to have paid...but you'll have to run the math by MR 2 :D
mojaveman
12-31-2013, 11:59
$30,000,000.00 to fix that little hole? Give me enough JB Weld and duct tape and I can fix it a whole lot cheaper than that.
That's just the hole. What are you going to fix all of the electronics with? :p I bet that sailor soiled his laundry when that thing came through the wall. :D
Badger52
01-01-2014, 20:04
Anonymous sources indicate that Professor Falken was not aboard, but at his country retreat.
and some people bitch about the cost to run our Army....peanuts compared to the Navy and Air Farce.
It looks like KBR is hard at work fixing the hole.:p
BrokenSwitch
01-03-2014, 04:18
Anonymous sources indicate that Professor Falken was not aboard, but at his country retreat.
Great movie!
This reminds me of that Nazi battleship where it was supposed to be some super elite, ultra-tough battle ship, but it got knocked out of commission rather quickly because the Allies took out the propeller (apparently a design oversight).
That would be the Tirpitz.
The Reaper
01-03-2014, 12:30
Great movie!
That would be the Tirpitz.
No, actually, that would have been the Bismarck.
The Tirpitz was sunk in port.
TR
This reminds me of that Nazi battleship where it was supposed to be some super elite, ultra-tough battle ship, but it got knocked out of commission rather quickly because the Allies took out the propeller (apparently a design oversight).
That would be the Tirpitz.
No, actually, that would have been the Bismarck.
The Tirpitz was sunk in port.
TR
TR is correct, the Nazi Battleship Tirpitz was sunk in port in Norway.
Bismarck was sunk by the British as well. The "design flaw" wasn't the rudder persay but the fact that the Brits used Swordfish Torpedo planes. Bi winged prop driven, they flew slower than the new "radar control" anti-aircraft guns installed on Bismarck. The planes were able to slip in under this new radar and let looses some "fish". One of which damaged the Bismarck's rudder causing it to swing in circles allowing the British fleet to catch up to Him and sink Him in a heavy gun exchange as the ship was sailing into a French port for repairs from an earlier engagement.
Peregrino
01-03-2014, 18:48
Bottom line - is it hubris or simply criminal incompetence that naval architects and ship design bureaus appear to have completely forgotten the battle damage lessons of WWII? From WWII ships suffering kamikaze attacks and continuing to steam to one of the most advanced surface vessels in today's USN being put out of commission for an estimated six months? We first saw evidence of the fragility of modern naval designs during the Falklands War in 82. This accident gives the perception that nothing was learned from those earlier encounters. WTFO? Hell - did a WWII cruiser even cost $30M?
The Reaper
01-03-2014, 21:40
Bottom line - is it hubris or simply criminal incompetence that naval architects and ship design bureaus appear to have completely forgotten the battle damage lessons of WWII? From WWII ships suffering kamikaze attacks and continuing to steam to one of the most advanced surface vessels in today's USN being put out of commission for an estimated six months? We first saw evidence of the fragility of modern naval designs during the Falklands War in 82. This accident gives the perception that nothing was learned from those earlier encounters. WTFO? Hell - did a WWII cruiser even cost $30M?
Exactly.
The Falklands and the Brit destroyers and frigates with the aluminum and magnesium superstructures burning and magazines detonating was the first thing that popped into my head.
Or look at what happened to the USS Cole. No one thought of upgrading our armor after that either?
TR
GratefulCitizen
01-03-2014, 22:00
No worries, the POTUS has issued an order which should resolve the problem:
"Just plug the damn hole!"
Golf1echo
01-04-2014, 02:34
Maybe this is just one of the new designs meant for the Chinese to copy? Or did personnel just grab the wrong colored weapon?
If it were my vessel I would find some of these desirable: Sea Wolfs, Mk 15 Phalanx CIWS, Technokontrols Maritime- Naval Armament Denfence, Reactive Armor, Standoff's, etc...? Or even netting...
http://technokontrol.com/en/products/elite-naval-armament.php
Note: Look at the Chinese vessel, looks like a Phalanx in the aft, wonder if we sold them that? :rolleyes:
BrokenSwitch
01-04-2014, 13:04
The Falklands and the Brit destroyers and frigates with the aluminum and magnesium superstructures burning and magazines detonating was the first thing that popped into my head.
Maybe it's because I've been involved with Scouting for 16 years, but I figured it was well known that magnesium is a fire hazard. WTF were they thinking? :confused: That naval warfare is over forever? If so, then why even bother having a navy?
With that said, and seeing the current condition of the British navy, it appears that they already reached the same conclusion years ago. :munchin