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Team Sergeant
12-25-2013, 20:20
Incompetence has been taken to a whole new level......
Atlas reader Walt puts it in perspective:
During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. Produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks. We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.
It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/12/notewrothy.html
But in that same amount of time they have managed to do to the United States what we did to Germany and Japan during the war.
I disagree. He is very capable and successful and has done EXACTLY what he set out to do. Destroy this country from the inside. I know I need a tin foil hat but an idiot gets it right occasionally even by accident.
He is just the Ringmaster, it takes a lot more people working in unison to complete circus and make it prosper.
It ain't Tinfoil anymore.
it dont matter what side of the aisle you are on...
The POTUS said during his first campaign:
-he would pull troops from Iraq
-he would launch drone strikes into Pock-e-stahn
-he would end dont ask dont tell
-he would catch bin-laden
-he would introduce universal health care
-he would address gay marriage
as well...
-he said he would end the war in trashcanistan and if he is lucky he can use karzais refusal to sign a SOFA to help him retreat from OEF
-he said he would address immigration and now has a congress that is about to pretty much give amnesty and a pile of benefits to everyone BUT American military veterans
what did I miss?
what did I miss?
-he said his administration would be transparent.
-he would close GITMO.
Golf1echo
12-25-2013, 23:30
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. " Edmund Burke
"To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction ": Isaac Newtons law III on The Laws of Motion
Some here and elsewhere have already begun the movement back to the center.
This "Change and Hope" has not worked for any Americans. Much of the process has been outside the realms of the guidelines established by the Constitution established by our fore fathers to create the greatest nation on earth..." The Land of Opportunity"...for those that contribute. No this is something else, a way to tear that down, a way to dismantle the structure and why? Retribution for the disenfranchised, a philosophy of Socialism, or even worse...?
This administration used different tactics, much like some of the phases of an Unconventional War. Conditions were ripe for this, the people were susceptible, they wanted "Hope and Change" in reaction to perceived inequities and real inequities but why they put their hopes into an inexperienced and unproven entity with questionable citizenship and religious agendas shows how desperate, confused, mislead, gullible, and manipulated they were.
There are many challenges in this country: greed, media, judicial disintegration, education, politics, etc... We need leadership that lead by example with the nations best interest at heart. The solutions will start with viable choices, understanding, experience and citizens becoming part of that solution. "If wishes were horses we all would ride"... but that just hasn't worked out has it?
As I understand things...
(1VB)compforce
12-26-2013, 07:33
I disagree. He is very capable and successful and has done EXACTLY what he set out to do. Destroy this country from the inside. I know I need a tin foil hat but an idiot gets it right occasionally even by accident.
http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/conspiracy-theories/
Where were all you experts in 2007?
Where were all you experts in 2007?
I was driving around town talking to people who where mesmerized by some guy I never heard of, hearing about a book he wrote, how he was going to change all the evil Bush had done and he was their last hope to save humanity.
Golf1echo
12-26-2013, 09:00
Where were all you experts in 2007?
Great question! It will take more than eight people to turn this around ( not sarcasm ), no question I voted against him both times and with voter turn out the way it is in this country it takes more than that. Just as he was elected both times, probably the only reason, it was because of that activist movement created with illegal entities like acorn and lots of other boots on the ground across the whole country. Although he will not run again he has done more to awake the opposition than members of the opposition could do to on both sides. Even ( some ) liberals will think long and hard about the next choice. I believe the damage this administration has done has made a a big mark and will take some doing to correct those tragedies. I actually don't relish being involved to the degree I will this go around, I was happily living my own private life in the backwoods of WNC...but the writings on the wall!
Conservatives and centrists will need to work even harder with the media being the way it is today.
Edit: I am no expert, more like a POed Libertarian that believes in the constitution, the country and observing the "Hope and Change" with complete disgust...
The Reaper
12-26-2013, 10:48
Eight years of Hillary may be even worse.
TR
Javadrinker
12-26-2013, 12:43
Eight years of Hillary may be even worse.
TR
This ^
Golf1echo
12-26-2013, 15:21
Eight years of Hillary may be even worse.
TR
That is the scariest thing I have ever read on this forum! My point this next go around is take nothing for granted.
We have already seen how the one pictured below operates before, during, and after a crisis.......................The groomers are already at work, search the internet yourselves.
The Red Diesel gets the greatest sympathy when she enters 'victim-land'. Recall when Bubba (whistle-dick) pimped her in front of the nation with monica?? recall how popular she was? Then the whole debacle as State Department 'head'? despite the carnage; the mismanagement; the deaths...how popular she was with fellow-travelers?
Her handlers will staple a set of 7X50's to her face and parade that ugly swamp-donkey in front of the camera's and the windshield lickers will eat it up. She has a better than average shot at becoming the first pre-op tranny occupying the whitehouse.
...the thought of another Clinton having oral sex with female interns in the oval office is down right awesome.
Look for the silver lining in the cloud:
HRC as president will make for some great late night TV show monologue material
Team Sergeant
12-27-2013, 21:59
...the thought of another Clinton having oral sex with female interns in the oval office is down right awesome.
Look for the silver lining in the cloud:
HRC as president will make for some great late night TV show monologue material
That's some funny stuff right there..... ;)
I'm still waiting for the secret service to release the first sex tapes of the Impeached President WJ Clinton with his cigar....... You know someone was watching.............
Conservatives and the GOP cannot be seen as bullying Hillary.
So we had to dance around the current potus because of his race lest we seem to be racists, now we do not want to appear to be bullying Hillary because............... she is a girl? The hell with what the other side looks like or what gender they are, conservatives need to go after these people for what they are and what they believe in and embrace. We cannot afford another 4-8 years of the democrats leading us further into the abyss.
ddoering
12-28-2013, 10:58
IMO, the whole "What difference does it make" bit could backfire on conservatives against Hillary come 2016. They will have to be careful. Conservatives and the GOP cannot be seen as bullying Hillary. Also Reverand Wright didn't do Obama in, Benghazi probably won't do Clinton in either. One good thing is Hillary will likely have to run to the right of Obama, and we need a conservative candidate who can eloquently, without coming across in any bullying manner, explain the flaws in all of her policies. I think she would be better than Obama though, as she is not as far-left as he is, and America won't have any appetite for more attempts at fundamentally changing America after the Ocare fiasco, provided it continues to bomb.
One thing about Hillary though is that she doesn't strike me as Presidential material. She cried in the 2008 election and complained about the Democratic party being too much of a boy's club, then at the Benghazi hearings, she blew up at the questioning; how is she going to handle the stresses of the Presidency?
Or we can just hire Tonya Harding.......
IMO, the whole "What difference does it make" bit could backfire on conservatives against Hillary come 2016. They will have to be careful. Conservatives and the GOP cannot be seen as bullying Hillary. Also Reverand Wright didn't do Obama in, Benghazi probably won't do Clinton in either. One good thing is Hillary will likely have to run to the right of Obama, and we need a conservative candidate who can eloquently, without coming across in any bullying manner, explain the flaws in all of her policies. I think she would be better than Obama though, as she is not as far-left as he is, and America won't have any appetite for more attempts at fundamentally changing America after the Ocare fiasco, provided it continues to bomb.
One thing about Hillary though is that she doesn't strike me as Presidential material. She cried in the 2008 election and complained about the Democratic party being too much of a boy's club, then at the Benghazi hearings, she blew up at the questioning; how is she going to handle the stresses of the Presidency?
When you put up with bad behavior you are giving confirmation that it is acceptable and you are encouraging it continue.
Better to change the game by putting up a good fight and taking some lumps than to put up with their crap.
It isn't fair, but running against a woman is always tougher. Women did not like all the negative things being done to Sarah Palin when she initially came on the scene in 2008 either. Conservatives can very much criticize Hillary and put up a good fight without being seen as bullies I think. It just requires some slickness.
I think being accused of being racist is a bit different, as there is no way to go about campaigning against a black Democrat where you really cannot be accused of such as a GOPer. But with a woman, I think there are ways where it can come off as blatantly sexist to women in particular if not careful. Remember when Tim Pawlenty in the Republican primary debate was really mean-acting towards Michelle Bachmann? That doomed his chances at the presidency because GOP women didn't like it.
The vast majority of politicking is little more than WWF Smack Down and all the participants are in on it. As long as you buy into and play along with the act it will continue to perpetuate.......unfortunately the majority of voters, like the majority of WWF fans, do appear to believe that what they are seeing is unscripted reality!
BUT it is in fact most if not all is a well rehearsed and orchestrated script of Good vs Evil, Us vs Them.
Racist and Sexist..........How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?
I don't buy that the political campaigns are scripted like WWF. They are both out to win. IMO, it's more like the political equivalent of Rough and Tumble, anything goes fighting.
McCain wasn't out to win, Romney didn't seem up to a fight, and if the show was truly rough and tumble it would be no holds barred and they would call a spade a spade.
IMO, the whole "What difference does it make" bit could backfire on conservatives against Hillary come 2016. They will have to be careful. Conservatives and the GOP cannot be seen as bullying Hillary. Also Reverand Wright didn't do Obama in, Benghazi probably won't do Clinton in either. One good thing is Hillary will likely have to run to the right of Obama, and we need a conservative candidate who can eloquently, without coming across in any bullying manner, explain the flaws in all of her policies.
What you described isn't anything goes fighting, it is going to a fight with a muzzle and one arm tied behind your back.....and you are playing the game by the script.