View Full Version : Military officer calls for draconian gun grab
"We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers," he wrote.
http://www.examiner.com/article/military-officer-calls-for-draconian-gun-grab-400-percent-tax-on-ammunition
mojaveman
12-05-2013, 23:05
That man is delusional.
Read Bateman's original, full article at Esquire to understand the ridiculousness of his stance on guns:
Bateman on Guns (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bateman-on-guns-120313)
:confused::rolleyes::eek::mad:
How reliable is this publication?
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Don't get what you're asking? The article links to the original Esquire piece.
Guess maybe he's hoping the WH will notice him.
What a winner..
He is in love with Barry...
AL
Some sources are saying he's in the New York Guard - not the New York National Guard.
Little bit of difference if it's true.
If you are with Linked In goggle him up.
Got to love his thinking.. POS
Thanks for the article.
What a winner..
He is in love with Barry...
AL
Apparently Bateman is president and founder of Alliance Defense Marketing Associates LLC (http://www.admallc.com/Services.html), a “global premier risk management” firm that does work for the DHS.
rubberneck
12-06-2013, 22:42
Molon Labe Lt. Col!!!
Golf1echo
12-06-2013, 23:49
Apparently Bateman is president and founder of Alliance Defense Marketing Associates LLC (http://www.admallc.com/Services.html), a “global premier risk management” firm that does work for the DHS.
Seriously? That web site says it all....I don't even know where to start :(
Some sources are saying he's in the New York Guard - not the New York National Guard.
Little bit of difference if it's true.
If you are with Linked In goggle him up.
This guy is all over the place.
Go here and look at his listing. http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Robert-Bateman/1584725228
Looks like he is National Guard and is the G2. Not a full timer from what I have been able to find. A guy in our office emailed him and this guy stated he was a west point grad active duty teaching right now at West Point. Can someone with AKO check and see if he is listed in any shape or form ?
This guy is a member of every type of group you can think of. He has his name on Association board after board. How do you have time to be on all of them and still have a job. Something smells about this guy.
GratefulCitizen
12-07-2013, 08:19
Wait for me to die to pry it from my cold, dead hands?
How old is he?
Plenty of firearms being transferred among private parties in Free America (including preemptive de facto inheritances).
Hard to confiscate them if you don't know who has them.
California and New York have shown what happens when firearms are registered.
Citizens elsewhere are unlikely to repeat the error.
Just a desperate rant from a fading liberal, raging at the dying of his light.
Yeah, I'll still have my guns (and my kids will, too) long after he's pushing up daisies.
Lieutenant Colonel Robert L. Bateman is an infantryman, historian and prolific writer. Bateman was a Military Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and has taught Military History at the U.S. Military Academy. He is currently stationed in Washington, D.C. Bateman has authored two books: "Digital War, A View from the Front Lines" (Presidio: 1999) and "No Gun Ri, A Military History of the Korean War Incident" (Stackpole, 2002). He's also contributed to or co-authored seven more. Bateman's byline has appeared on more than 300 print and major national web site articles.
http://smallwarsjournal.com/author/robert-bateman
And so it goes...
Richard
Well Richard on your post he is a LTC on other postings he is a COL. I still would like to know what AKO list him as and where. His own bio list COL and NYNG G2.
His email yesterday to a co-worker said he was active duty LTC and a professor at West Point.
What is the real deal with this guy.....
NurseTim
12-07-2013, 15:09
Is he campaigning for chairman of the joint chief of staff? I'm sure bho likes what he is saying. Is it safe to say that there is one soldier that will turn his gun on his countrymen?
This is a screen grab showing the info for the only LTC (or COL) Robert Bateman in AKO...seems that he is now working at ARRC (Allied Rapid Reaction Corps) in the UK...
I don't think he has actually been in the military. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the "New York Guard" isn't actually part of the national guard. http://dmna.ny.gov/nyg/ ...Many New York Guard members are retired members of the National Guard and other military services, however military experience is not a prerequisite to membership."
This guy is all over the place.
Go here and look at his listing. http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Robert-Bateman/1584725228
Looks like he is National Guard and is the G2. Not a full timer from what I have been able to find. A guy in our office emailed him and this guy stated he was a west point grad active duty teaching right now at West Point. Can someone with AKO check and see if he is listed in any shape or form ?
This guy is a member of every type of group you can think of. He has his name on Association board after board. How do you have time to be on all of them and still have a job. Something smells about this guy.
"Bob is a serving Colonel with the New York Guard Army Division as the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence (G/2) and is a past Chairman of the Board, Military Association of New York. Bob is a graduate of the HPD Police Academy, the USDA Graduate School for Government Executives, U.S. Army War College National Security Symposium and holds as Bachelors Degree from Villanova University."
I think this is his "military experience"
I think that there are two Robert Batemans loose in the wild...take a look at the attached .PDF and draw your own conclusion...the one on the left is the AD cat...the one on the right is the NY Guard cat...
Weapons Man blog has another picture of him about 1/2 way down the page, driving a HMMWV...
http://weaponsman.com/
Yes there is two of them
One is Robert L. Bateman As the other is Robert J. Bateman.
Which one is the one who wrote the artical?
Yes there is two of them
One is Robert L. Bateman As the other is Robert J. Bateman.
Which one is the one who wrote the artical?
Robert L. Bateman, the AD LTC
In the article he mentions he is working in the UK.
I became pretty good friends with a LTCOL who was extremely considerate to my family during a really difficult time. He shocked me over dinner one night when he said only "professionals" should possess handguns and magazine-fed rifles and he would have no problem carrying out an order to confiscate all weapons from civilians if he was given a lawful order. He's now an active duty brigadier general.
This guy is not alone.
I became pretty good friends with a LTCOL who was extremely considerate to my family during a really difficult time. He shocked me over dinner one night when he said only "professionals" should possess handguns and magazine-fed rifles and he would have no problem carrying out an order to confiscate all weapons from civilians if he was given a lawful order. He's now an active duty brigadier general.
This guy is not alone.
lol Can you imagine the conflagration if National or even state-by state confiscation were attempted?
Even a high percentage of Obama voters would never let you take their weapons out of their still-living hands.
Not gonna happen. Oh, it might be instigated, but it ain't gonna wind up with a happy ending.
The letters are going out in NYC now. We'll see if anyone fights.
...Even a high percentage of Obama voters would never let you take their weapons out of their still-living hands.....
It appears to be working just fine in CA. Get behind on your taxes and the cops show up to take your guns.
The Reaper
12-08-2013, 22:31
It appears to be working just fine in CA. Get behind on your taxes and the cops show up to take your guns.
Only if you were ignorant enough to register them.
TR
Only if you were ignorant enough to register them.
TR
...or you made a purchase through a FFL or used a credit card or purchased two handguns in a week, triggering a Multiple Disposition of Handguns report, or maybe even talked about owning a firearm on this very public forum. Does anyone think the ATF wouldn't use data mining of social media to protect the children from dangerous and heavily armed felons?
Early last year a young woman from the Chicago office of the BATF called asking about a FFL holder who'd handled a couple of out-of-state transfers for me over the years. She had the name of the FFL on the other end of each transaction and the manufacturer, model and serial numbers of the firearms. They were interested if the required waiting periods were enforced. She was very sweet...sounded like a summer intern.
If there's a big enough opportunity (terrorist attack using locally sourced AR-15s) it won't be wasted.
Streck-Fu
12-09-2013, 07:25
The letters are going out in NYC now. We'll see if anyone fights.
I am watching how that transpires with great interest. For all the talk of normal civilians resisting a confiscation, how many will put up or shut up....
I have taken to buying anything from private sales within the state. I do not want to have any more records and 4473s on file.
I am watching how that transpires with great interest. For all the talk of normal civilians resisting a confiscation, how many will put up or shut up....
I have taken to buying anything from private sales within the state. I do not want to have any more records and 4473s on file.
To be honest I probably wouldn't actively resist and I don't personally know of anyone who would. We'd dodge and weave and buy cosmoline but I don't know anyone who'd kiss his family good bye and make a stand against LEOs with a lawful warrant. That's why I'm in process of moving to a locale where the LEOs wouldn't comply. It isn't the only reason but it's part of it.
.....and I don't personally know of anyone who would.
You move in a different world then. Not only would I resist as I consider any warrant to seize my firearms an unlawful warrant but most of my friends would also. You should consider new acquaintances.
Streck-Fu
12-09-2013, 08:58
.... I don't know anyone who'd kiss his family good bye and make a stand against LEOs with a lawful warrant.
I don't see that warrant as legitimate.
Why not just remove the weapons from the state until you can things worked out? Don't you have a hunting buddy that wants to borrow them for a while....?
You move in a different world then. Not only would I resist as I consider any warrant to seize my firearms an unlawful warrant but most of my friends would also.
And their friends, and their friends' friends.
Obama knows better than to pop open that can o' worms. State-by-state would be the only viable shot at confiscation, and you can look at a red/blue map and surmise that ain't goin' nowhere.
And their friends, and their friends' friends.
Obama knows better than to pop open that can o' worms.
While I want to think that.... I am not sure. Their best bet for nationwide confiscation is to wait until my generation's children are grown and they will not have as large of a problem with it. Though I don't know if they are that patient.
Never thought I would hear Dusty say "Obama knows better" :p
While I want to think that.... I am not sure. Their best bet for nationwide confiscation is to wait until my generation's children are grown and they will not have as large of a problem with it. Though I don't know if they are that patient.
Never thought I would hear Dusty say "Obama knows better" :p
I'm not saying he won't do everything he can in his normal manner, e.g. selective law enforcement, campaigning against fictitious powers-that-be, passing bills before anybody reads them, getting Reid to go nuclear, and so forth.
I'm saying that he or his teleprompter are aware that 1. he needs to use a lob wedge on the 8th at the Vineyard 2. Don't try a fed gun grab when 50 states have CCW and there's as much ammo on the streets as there is now.
Toaster, I don't blame you in the least for being worried about your heirs.
Team Sergeant
12-09-2013, 10:38
To be honest I probably wouldn't actively resist and I don't personally know of anyone who would. We'd dodge and weave and buy cosmoline but I don't know anyone who'd kiss his family good bye and make a stand against LEOs with a lawful warrant. That's why I'm in process of moving to a locale where the LEOs wouldn't comply. It isn't the only reason but it's part of it.
Then you don't know any Special Forces soldiers..... there is only one thing on this planet that I would "kiss my family goodbye" and that is Freedom.
Any agency that attempts to take my Freedom from me will meet a warrior switched to kill. And you can take that to the bank. :munchin
Then you don't know any Special Forces soldiers..... there is only one thing on this planet that I would "kiss my family goodbye" and that is Freedom.
Any agency that attempts to take my Freedom from me will meet a warrior switched to kill. And you can take that to the bank. :munchin
No, I don't know any QPs personally. I'm occasional poker-friends with a Force Recon guy and a dude even older than me who was in the first wave at lz x-ray at Ia Drang (his plates say LZ X-RAY). The former has four kids and the latter is raising his granddaughter. I don't think either would start a firefight in a residential neighborhood full of kids. They say they would, but...
Strek-fu, moving them or caching them is what I meant by dodging and weaving. That's not shooting.
"And in Arizona, a deranged gunman..."--cut to a clip of the sobbing wife and children of the cop you shot. Cue neighbor: "We've been expecting something like this. Never got along with him; he yelled at me once and called me a nancy-boy cuz I owned a Glock. Made damn good ribs, though."
As I said, my plan is to be living in a locale where I've talked to the local LE and know their minds. And I do think most States will avoid confiscation, but NY and CA are certainly two that won't. I'll be shocked if there's any resistance when they start confiscating those 10/22s.
No, I don't know any QPs personally. I'm occasional poker-friends with a Force Recon guy and a dude even older than me who was in the first wave at lz x-ray at Ia Drang (his plates say LZ X-RAY). The former has four kids and the latter is raising his granddaughter. I don't think either would start a firefight in a residential neighborhood full of kids. They say they would, but...
Strek-fu, moving them or caching them is what I meant by dodging and weaving. That's not shooting.
"And in Arizona, a deranged gunman..."--cut to a clip of the sobbing wife and children of the cop you shot. Cue neighbor: "We've been expecting something like this. Never got along with him; he yelled at me once and called me a nancy-boy cuz I owned a Glock. Made damn good ribs, though."
As I said, my plan is to be living in a locale where I've talked to the local LE and know their minds. And I do think most States will avoid confiscation, but NY and CA are certainly two that won't. I'll be shocked if there's any resistance when they start confiscating those 10/22s.
If they are confiscating firearms it won't be "And in Arizona, a deranged gunman...." it will be occurring all over. Based on your posts, I would say you might be infected by livinig-in-illinois syndrome. Might want to get that checked out.
mojaveman
12-09-2013, 20:12
If and when confiscation ever begins in Kalifornia. :D
FlagDayNCO
12-10-2013, 09:21
I'd say definite signs of being infected by livinig-in-illinois syndrome. Maybe one of the "Docs" could weigh-in.
Don't count on those cops to honor their oaths, either. WHen it comes down to it, those living in the Progressive regions know where their life-time pensions come from and will follow their orders.
My preceding generations have fought and lived under dictators. Not me.
I am with TS and a vast number of men that will never surrender their arms. Never.
Has anybody heard of this? This is kinda scary sounding stuff for a civvie like me. I thought he swore an oath to uphold the constitution? http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home Hopefully I put this in the right place. If not please move it.
Apparently Robert Bateman hasn't read this (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40772).
Think he's being used as a tool by this administration in an attempt to divide our Nations Military and Law Enforcement?
Dean Jarvis
06-11-2014, 13:10
Let's see......how many times have I heard someone spouting off like this asshole just before someone kicks their ass:munchin
DIYPatriot
06-11-2014, 13:27
Let's see......how many times have I heard someone spouting off like this asshole just before someone kicks their ass:munchin
I found this in the comments section of the article. What a badass :rolleyes:
Streck-Fu
06-11-2014, 13:53
Esquire certainly likes him.....Previous discussion on his call for complete gun ban. His oath means nothing to him. LINK (http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44244&highlight=Bateman)
If he is really so concerned he can start in Chicago.
Streck-Fu
06-11-2014, 13:58
If he is really so concerned he can start in Chicago.
He better fly direct as any attempt to drive through Indiana may result in an ambush.
futureSOF
06-11-2014, 14:55
Did this guy serve in the Ranger Regiment, or just go to Ranger School?
This guy is all over the place.
Go here and look at his listing. http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Robert-Bateman/1584725228
Looks like he is National Guard and is the G2. Not a full timer from what I have been able to find. A guy in our office emailed him and this guy stated he was a west point grad active duty teaching right now at West Point. Can someone with AKO check and see if he is listed in any shape or form ?
This guy is a member of every type of group you can think of. He has his name on Association board after board. How do you have time to be on all of them and still have a job. Something smells about this guy.
The NY Guard isn't the National Guard, that would be the NY ARNG
The NYG G2 position is currently vacant http://dmna.ny.gov/nyg/?id=staff
"Bob is a serving Colonel with the New York Guard Army Division as the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence (G/2) "
The Reaper
06-11-2014, 16:04
Has anybody heard of this? This is kinda scary sounding stuff for a civvie like me. I thought he swore an oath to uphold the constitution? http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home Hopefully I put this in the right place. If not please move it.
1. This is not where your first post goes. Read the Forum rules.
2. There are three threads already about LTC Bateman from in a quick search. We do not need a fourth one. The search button is your friend. Especially before starting new threads.
TR
1. This is not where your first post goes. Read the Forum rules.
2. There are three threads already about LTC Bateman from in a quick search. We do not need a fourth one. The search button is your friend. Especially before starting new threads.
TR
Yes, sir. I'm sorry, I thought I had already posted an intro, then I saw my post counter at one, and knew I was in the doghouse already. As far as the search, It seems to not want to work with my phone. The dialog kept going away when I tried to type Bateman's name in. As far as he goes, I'm glad to see not all of y'all are on the same page as he, or I figure we could just hang it up.
I merged the threads. The SEARCH function is your friend; if your phone won't allow you to use it, I suggest you wait until you're on a system that will allow it before starting any threads. Richard
You move in a different world then. Not only would I resist as I consider any warrant to seize my firearms an unlawful warrant but most of my friends would also. You should consider new acquaintances.
After reading several posts similar to this one, I know I'm in the right camp!
"Molon Labe"