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Sdiver
10-12-2013, 19:11
Tin foil hat time ..... or is it ????

When the story broke about Clancy's death, I was curious as to way the "cause" wasn't listed. He was only 66 and in fairly good health. Now I'm not saying Barry took a page from Bill and Hillary's play book, but with the many scandals Barry is facing, I have a feeling we might see more and more "mysterious" deaths.

:munchin

BOMBSHELL: Ex-CIA Agent Claims Obama Killed Breitbart and Clancy

Brandon Walker- Doctor Jim Garrow, philanthropist and worker for one of the largest non-profit organizations on the planet to save female children from slaughter in China. He has been featured on several media outlets throughout the world. Last Sunday, as a guest of Now the End Begins internet radio program however, he dropped a bombshell on the world. Dr. Garrow claims that up to a week ago he was covert CIA. To top it off on the program, he states he knows that President Obama ordered the hits that killed Tom Clancy and Andrew Breitbart!

According to Garrow … Andrew Breitbart died under mysterious circumstances. The autopsy said that he died with no prescription drugs in his system and only a .04 blood alcohol content not days after taping an interview with the now also deceased “alleged” gay lover of President Barack H. Obama. So why if he died of natural causes did the FBI go after his widow for potential homicide?

Well according to Dr. Jim Garrow, Andrew Breitbart was not dead of natural causes. According to the interview, he was killed directly by the Obama Administration. Andrew Breitbart was known for his controversy against the administration and the news media. Several people believed he was killed including some of the main founders of www.breitbart.com in his memory.

Then there was Tom Clancy. Tom Clancy died last week at the age of 66. Although they say “natural causes”, the actual list of cause of death on his autopsy, cause of death unknown.

Tom Clancy once said:

I hang my hat on getting as many things right as I can. I’ve made up stuff that’s turned out to be real — that’s the spooky part.”-Tom Clancy to the New York Times

It is no secret when he wrote The Hunt for the Red October that he was met at the door by Pentagon officials and FBI agents demanding to know where he got top-secret documents. Dr. Garrow states that after the incident, the CIA “spoon fed” him classified information and scenarios to write his novels in a manner that was entertaining but contained that ever needed element of truth. Dr. Garrow says that is why he was killed because he was getting to close to a secret they don’t want the world to know. In fact Dr. Garrow attributes the statement quoted above as “a little too late”.

Dr. Garrow states President Obama had Tom Clancy killed as well and noted that it takes 5 days for plant toxins and most poisons to break down and leave no traces in the human body. Amazingly enough, or coincidentally, the doctors did not perform an autopsy on Tom Clancy’s body for 5 days.

Finally he revealed a revelation so shocking to the radio program that can be best described in their own words:

Lastly, he revealed that Obama’s administration was made up of Marxist Muslims who all take their orders from Senior Adviser to the President, Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett. Dr. Garrow said that it is well known to intelligence agencies all over the world that Obama is a foreign plant who was placed on the path to the presidency by ultra-rich Saudi nationals This is why, Garrow said, that all of Obama’s education records have been permanently sealed.- Now The End Begins

http://www.conservativeinfidel.com/uncategorized/bombshell-ex-cia-agent-claims-obama-killed-breitbart-and-clancy/

Paslode
10-12-2013, 19:31
If O ever decides to leave the WH we may find out there was substance in the conspiracies.

Richard
10-13-2013, 07:00
YGBSM.

Richard

Paslode
10-13-2013, 07:50
YGBSM.

Richard


Stranger things have happened.

PSM
10-13-2013, 10:30
Andrew Breitbart had dinner with Bill Ayres and friends shortly before he died.

Pat

Leozinho
10-13-2013, 13:15
When you guys decide to link and reprint these articles, do you ever ask yourself where the proof is?

This "Dr" Garrow makes shocking claims and offers zero proof. How does he know? If he knows it, why doesn't he provide the proof that would make people take notice?

If you think that senior officials decided to leak this bombshell to him to expose it, do you ask why him and not the NY Times, or WashPo, or Drudge, or at least someone without a fake doctorate?

Knight
10-13-2013, 15:35
With everything that is transpiring out there, who knows what to believe. The brainwashing by the administration and the MSM has everyone who gives a damn corkscrewing on what the truth is. I lean on the side that people are definitely being disposed of because they know too much, or they are gaining a strong following on what they report, and a lot of it has evidence of not being conspiracy. All I really know is that the government has always proven, that killing many is a small, impersonal feat for them-even their own. So what is the big deal with one? And there are plenty of ways to cover it up-especially when you have control of the media. There are a lot more professional organizations and businesses, who are not directly tied to the government, that are starting to question just WTH is going on, and that is nice to see. In the midst of all of this, I'm betting a lot more "heart attacks", "suicides", and "natural causes" are on the horizon.:munchin And be prepared, just in case.

Leozinho
10-13-2013, 15:55
You missed my point. I'm not asking if you or anyone else thinks the government does nefarious things.

I'm asking why post articles ]in which a phony 'doctor' with a history of making outrageous claims and providing zero evidence (google "Garrow Litmus test") makes another outrageous claim and provides zero evidence.

Just because some believe the government does nefarious things doesn't mean you should post complete shite that a 12 year old can easily dismiss with some simple critical thinking and a google search.

Sdiver
10-13-2013, 16:10
Okay, I guess from now on I will only post stories of the "nefarious goings on" by our government from reputable sources ... ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, NYT, LA Times, etc.

Looks like it's back to the Comedy Threads for me. :munchin

Dusty
10-13-2013, 16:15
Okay, I guess from now on I will only post stories of the "nefarious goings on" by our government from reputable sources ... ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, NYT, LA Times, etc.

Looks like it's back to the Comedy Threads for me. :munchin

lol Don't go away mad, Sdiver! :D

In fact, don't go anywhere at all. IMO, you're a valuable contributor to this forum, and I enjoy your posts.

Surely you know they're going to be screened and scrutinized; this thread just happens to be a tad outerlimitsesque.

Maybe more than a tad. ;)

Paslode
10-13-2013, 16:32
lol Don't go away mad, Sdiver! :D

In fact, don't go anywhere at all. IMO, you're a valuable contributor to this forum, and I enjoy your posts.

Surely you know they're going to be screened and scrutinized; this thread just happens to be a tad outerlimitsesque.

Maybe more than a tad. ;)

Yes and no. There is some evidence, in print, that leads some to believe Garrows claim of a Muslim/Jarrett connection that put the O in office.

http://patdollard.com/2012/09/obama-vetting-1979-newspaper-article-by-valerie-jarrett-father-in-law-reveals-start-of-arab-purchase-of-u-s-presidency/

Leozinho
10-13-2013, 16:36
I'm not a moderator and I'm not telling you where to post. You can do what you want unless a moderator tells you differently.

But if you want to apply a little critical thinking yourself and do a little research before linking to something, I won't mind.

I'm assuming you didn't do that this time since you got butthurt and didn't answer my questions.

Sdiver
10-13-2013, 16:37
Oh hell, I'm not mad, nor am I pissed. Takes a lot to piss me off (case in point Barry's administration) and I understand exactly where Leozinho is coming from.

It is difficult to initially separate credible reporting/fact from the "tin foil hat" style we're seeing more and more today, without researching it even just a bit. ;) But the thing that's got me is that these "credible news sources" are just as guilty of putting out false/crazy stories as the tin foil hat crowd does. In fact, I would hold them liable for the mess we're in today with Barry and his administration. If one, just one credible news source would dig into Barry's past as they have done so before in the past with other President's (both D and R) I'm sure that people would shit their pants.

BuuuuuuuUUUUUuuuuuT NooooOOOOOooooo ....... you dig into Barry's past, or bring up something sensational such as the above posted link and you're labeled a kook and deserve a room at the laughing academy. If that be the case, I hope I get a room with a window.


Ahhhhhhhh .... Juicy Fruit.

Dusty
10-13-2013, 16:38
Ninety-Nine Point Nine Percent Dead

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh this afternoon was rushed to Ceasar Memorial Hospital by his bodyguards in a black General Motors Cadillac Escalade complaining of stomach pains, headache and a general malaise. Speaking with difficulty, he whispered “Bad Choom…” to his wife while being transported to the ER on a huge gurney.

Rake Armstrong, Limbaugh’s Chief of Security, reported to detectives that a slender, metro sexual, light-skinned African-American was seen fleeing Limbaugh’s prostrate body on a bicycle. The suspect was wearing a girl’s helmet, and was last spotted leaving the golf course just east of the seventh putting green.

The Surgeon on duty at the hospital told this reporter that the prognosis was “good” for Mr. Limbaugh, but that his abdomen had to be perforated to release an abnormal quantity of gas.

www.limbaughsatirelottalaughs.com

Leozinho
10-13-2013, 16:50
Yes and no. There is some evidence, in print, that leads some to believe Garrows claim of a Muslim/Jarrett connection that put the O in office.

http://patdollard.com/2012/09/obama-vetting-1979-newspaper-article-by-valerie-jarrett-father-in-law-reveals-start-of-arab-purchase-of-u-s-presidency/


In that case, Garrows wouldn't even be breaking the story, but instead just repeating what others have already alleged? (There's no mention of Garrows in the article above.) Relevant, since one of my points is that if someone was sitting on information that Obama had Breitbart and Clancy murdered that person wouldn't use Garrows to break the news to the public.

What about this claim by Garrow?

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new "litmus test" in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. "The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not". Those who will not are being removed.
- Dr. Jim Garrow - January 21, 2013

https://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1/posts/10151209214442015

'Cause when Lt. Gen (ret) Boykin wants to anonymously drop this bombshell on the world, he chooses to tell it to a fake doctor from Canada and have him announce it on facebook.

There are plenty of officers here. Maybe one that was purged can confirm this. <rolls eyes> Oh wait, it's utter BS too.

Box
10-13-2013, 19:52
...BHO did dat' shit !!!

Paslode
10-13-2013, 19:55
In that case, Garrows wouldn't even be breaking the story, but instead just repeating what others have already alleged? (There's no mention of Garrows in the article above.) Relevant, since one of my points is that if someone was sitting on information that Obama had Breitbart and Clancy murdered that person wouldn't use Garrows to break the news to the public.

What about this claim by Garrow?

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new "litmus test" in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. "The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not". Those who will not are being removed.
- Dr. Jim Garrow - January 21, 2013

https://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1/posts/10151209214442015

'Cause when Lt. Gen (ret) Boykin wants to anonymously drop this bombshell on the world, he chooses to tell it to a fake doctor from Canada and have him announce it on facebook.

There are plenty of officers here. Maybe one that was purged can confirm this. <rolls eyes> Oh wait, it's utter BS too.


I agree with you that Garrow doesn't seem like a prime candidate to be a messenger.

Fact of the matter is I was asking myself Friday who the heck is Jim Garrow.....another Steve Quayle or Lindsey Williams? I think I went to his website and closed the window because it looked quackish. Nobody of any substance is going to use this guy to get their message out.

More than likely he puts some stuff together and attempts to make breaking news on Above Top Secret and BIN.

For instance:

Seems to me that the 'Litmus Test' had been brought a year or two ago by someone else, maybe around the same time there was a rumor of a new oath to Obama the armed services were taking.

The Muslim/Obama thing has been making its rounds for quite awhile with new tidbits like the Vernon Jarret story popping up here and there....even some more credible sources.

I have no idea why anyone would want to wack Tom Clancy, but Breitbart and Hastings definitely had people who despised them and they fall into the Vince Foster category.

I can't say if they are true or untrue, but I do know that it was that long ago people thought anyone that considered Ayers had a big hand in Dreams of my Father was nuts and the US Government would give give guns to drug cartels was nuts and had been visiting Prison Planet too much.


No matter what the case, the comments to these articles are always a hoot to read:D

Paslode
10-13-2013, 20:04
http://www.prisonplanet.com/nobel-peace-prize-nominee-obama-asks-military-leaders-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens.html

It goes back to at least January and this alleged survey, allegedly given by a Navy Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham

The following survey was given to U.S. Marines at the 29 Palms Marine Corps base in California:
DD Form 3206 (Rev 2/96)

JOINT SERVICES TRAINING COMBAT ARMS SURVEY

Part A (Confidential when filled in)

This questionnaire is to gather data concerning the attitudes of combat trained personnel with regard to non-traditional missions. All responses are confidential and official. Write your answers directly on the form. In Part II, place an "X" in the space provided for your response.

Date:_____________

Part 1. Demographics.

1. Branch of Service: Army ( ) USAF ( ) Navy ( ) Marines ( ) ANG ( ) NG ( ) USCG ( ) Other: ( )

2. Pay Grade: (E-6, O-4, etc) ( )

3. MOS, AFSC or Specialty Code and Description: ( )

4. Highest level of education: Less than 12 ( ) 13 ( ) 14 ( ) 15 ( ) (16) ( ) More than 16 ( )

5. How many months did you serve in Operation Desert Storm/Desert Shield?( )

6. How many months did you serve in Somalia? ( )

7. Where did you spend most of your childhood?

City: ( ); County: ( ) State: ( )

Part II. Attitude:

Do you feel that U.S. combat troops should be used within the U.S. and bordering countries for any of the following missions?

(Strongly Disagree) (Disagree) (Agree) (Strongly Agree) (No Opinion)

8. Drug enforcement

9. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)

10. Security at national events (e.g. Olympic Games, Super Bowl)

11. Environmental disaster clean-up including toxic and nuclear

12. Substitute teachers and school workers in public schools

13. Community assistance programs (e.g. landscaping, environmental clean-up,road repair, animal control)

14. Federal and State prison guards and auxiliary police

15. National emergency police force/international security force

16. Advisors to SWAT units, the FBI, or the BATF

17. Border Patrol (e.g. prevention of entry of illegal aliens into U.S. territory)

18. Drug enforcement and interdiction

19. Disaster relief in bordering countries (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes, etc.)

20. Environmental disaster clean-up in bordering countries including toxic and nuclear.

21. Peace keeping and local law enforcement and internal security forces

22. National building (reconstruct civil governments, develop public school system, develop or improve public transportation system, etc.)

23. Humanitarian relief (e.g. food and medical supplies, temporary housing and clothing and domestic care).

Do you feel that U.S. combat troops should be used in other countries, under command of non-U.S. officers appointed by the U.N. for any of the following missions?

24. Drug enforcement.

25. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)

26. Environmental disaster clean-up including toxic and nuclear.

27. Peace keeping including local law enforcement and internal security forces

28. National building (reconstruct civil government, develop public school system, develop or improve public transportation system, etc.

29. Humanitarian relief (e.g. food and medical supplies, temporary housing and clothing and domestic care)

30. Police action (e.g. Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm but serving under non-U.S. officers)

31. The U.S. runs a field training exercise. U.N. combat troops should be allowed to serve in U.S. combat units during these exercises under U.S. command and control.

32. The U.N. runs a field training exercise. U.S. combat troops under U.S. command and control should serve in U.N. combat units during these exercises

33. The U.N. runs a field training exercise. U. S. combat troops should serve under U.N. command and control.

34. U.S. combat troops should participate in U.N.missions as long as the U.S. has full command and control.

35. U.S. combat troops should participate in U.N. missions under U.N. command and control.

36. U.S. combat troops should be commanded by U.N. officers and non- commissioned officers at battalion, wing and company levels while performing U.N. missions.

37. It would make no difference to me to have U.N. soldiers as members of my team.

38. It would make no difference to me to take orders from a U.N. company or squadron commander.

39. I feel the President of the U.S. has the authority to pass his responsibilities as Commander-in-Chief to the U.N. Secretary General.

40. I feel there is no conflict between my oath of office and serving as a U.N. soldier.

41. I feel my unit's combat effectiveness would not be affected by performing huminatarian and peace keeping missions for the U.N.

42. I feel a designated unit of U.S. combat soldiers should be permanently assigned to the command and control of the U.N.

43. I would be willing to volunteer for assignment to a U.S. combat unit under a U.N. commander.

44. I would like U.N. member countries, including the U.S., to give the U.N. all the soldiers necessary to maintain world peace.

45. I would swear to the following code:

"I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nation's way of life. I swear and affirm to support and defend the Charter of the United Nations and I am prepared to give my life in its defense."

46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-approved firearms. A 30-day amnesty period is established for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of irregular citizen groups and defiant individuals refuse to turn over their firearms to authority.

Consider the following statement:

"I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government."

End of Survey

Knight
10-14-2013, 04:22
Oh hell, I'm not mad, nor am I pissed. Takes a lot to piss me off (case in point Barry's administration) and I understand exactly where Leozinho is coming from.

It is difficult to initially separate credible reporting/fact from the "tin foil hat" style we're seeing more and more today, without researching it even just a bit. ;) But the thing that's got me is that these "credible news sources" are just as guilty of putting out false/crazy stories as the tin foil hat crowd does. In fact, I would hold them liable for the mess we're in today with Barry and his administration. If one, just one credible news source would dig into Barry's past as they have done so before in the past with other President's (both D and R) I'm sure that people would shit their pants.

BuuuuuuuUUUUUuuuuuT NooooOOOOOooooo ....... you dig into Barry's past, or bring up something sensational such as the above posted link and you're labeled a kook and deserve a room at the laughing academy. If that be the case, I hope I get a room with a window.


Ahhhhhhhh .... Juicy Fruit.

I rest my case. Well said.

Paslode
10-14-2013, 07:44
The main thing to always remember with conspiracies is that they are incredibly difficult to keep secret, so the more grandiose the conspiracy, generally the more likely it is fake.


You mean the grandiose conspiracy like Alex Jones has been preaching for YEARS......the misuse of the Patriot Act, the Police State and NSA Spying...all of which have become well rounded topics on this board.


Which brings us back to Leozinho's question of why anyone would use Garrow as a means to release information..........why would anyone use Alex Jones?

Paslode
10-14-2013, 16:00
As a long-time friend and guest on NTEB Radio, we know Dr. Garrow to be a previous Nobel Peace Prize nominee and executive director of the Bethune Institute’s Pink Pagoda Girls school and rescue outreach in China. But on our show tonight, Dr. Garrow made the amazing revelation that he had, in fact, right up until this past Wednesday night at midnight, spent 45 years as a covert CIA operative. Garrow said that as a result of his “litmus test” statement in January, he was outed from the agency by Obama, and forced to accept early retirement

http://vineoflifenews.com/bombshell-jim-garrow-reveals-career-as-covert-cia-operative-says-breitbart-and-tom-clancy-murdered-by-obama-administration/

Finding out anything of substance on Jim Garrow is about as productive as finding the College Transcripts of Barry Soetoro.

There were 200+ nominees (beside BO) for the NPP in 2009 and the list apparently won't be released for 50+ years.

He was a Covert CIA Operavtive......It could be true or maybe he is Wolfgang Hammersmith or Bill Hillars brother. Maybe someone could ask former CIA case officer Bob Baer.

He is allegedly the founder of something named Pink Pagoda Schools that rescues female infants from China.

And all his news is posted on what is consider B & C rated news platforms.

And you can contact him at www.wnd.com


Who knows....

Richard
10-14-2013, 17:30
He was a Covert CIA Operavtive......It could be true or maybe he is Wolfgang Hammersmith or Bill Hillars brother. Maybe someone could ask former CIA case officer Bob Baer.

Yeah - deep cover as a private school educator. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g079Lj17Ao&oq=dr%20jim%20garrow&gs_l=youtube..0.5j0.66770.71435.0.76262.13.13.0.0. 0.0.128.1124.10j3.13.0.eytns%2Cpt%3D-30%2Cn%3D2%2Cui%3Dtr.1.0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.fMzz BPQKzLw

Paslode
10-14-2013, 18:35
Yeah - deep cover as a private school educator. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g079Lj17Ao&oq=dr%20jim%20garrow&gs_l=youtube..0.5j0.66770.71435.0.76262.13.13.0.0. 0.0.128.1124.10j3.13.0.eytns%2Cpt%3D-30%2Cn%3D2%2Cui%3Dtr.1.0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.fMzz BPQKzLw


That was the interview that got him kicked out of the CIA ;)

Richard
10-14-2013, 18:56
That was the interview that got him kicked out of the CIA ;)

Canadian Insane Asylum

Paslode
10-15-2013, 06:00
Canadian Insane Asylum

So you are of the mind that he falls into the catagory of Stanton Friedman :D

Richard
10-15-2013, 06:14
So you are of the mind that he falls into the catagory of Stanton Friedman :D

More along the lines of his conspiracy theorist central interviewer in the video - Alex Jones.

ZonieDiver
10-15-2013, 08:00
Criminy! The alleged officer who was asked the question by another alleged officer, as alleged by the alleged officer who spoke to the alleged "Dr" - who was speaking with the alleged journalist - really screwed up.

When asked if he would "kill Americans who wouldn't give up their guns" he should not have answered "no".

Even as a young buck sergeant, I knew the proper answer to any and all such questions was "Well, it depends on the situation"!

I'm buying more Alcoa stock.

Utah Bob
10-15-2013, 15:42
I believe it!

Of course I thought Confessions of a Dangerous Mind was a darn good documentary.
;)

GratefulCitizen
10-15-2013, 20:02
Killing high-profile people supposedly in possession of "dangerous information" doesn't seem like a good strategy given modern technology.
It just attracts attention and any "dangerous information" found is too easy to disseminate.

If I were to put on tin foil it would be for the implications of all the flag/general officers being fired.
Don't know enough about the military to understand how important it is, but it is disconcerting.

Paslode
10-16-2013, 07:52
Misuse of the Patriot Act, NSA spying, etc...I wouldn't consider "grandiose" conspiracies.


Today that is easy to for you or me to say.

But not all that long ago there were many people who considered that type of talk as a mere conspiracy and it was something you should not worry about.....and anyone who brought up or endorsed the concern was CrAzY.

I know Alex Jones has been going on about this stuff since way before 1999 (Police State 1) because there was this guy at work that listened to this loon named Alex Jones during break and went on rants during lunch as to where things were headed. It was all stuff that you never heard about on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and the new kid on the block Fox News.

Everyone laughed and would tell him he was nuts :D

Who provides more credible news Infowars, Breitbart, Zerohedge, MSNBC, CNN or Fox News?

Who is telling the truth Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Chris Matthews or Sean Hannity?


They say that Putin jails journalists he can't intimidate, and kills journalists he can't jail. They say he dominates all mass communications media, particularly television, which is wholly owned and operated by the Kremlin and serves as the dominant source of news for most Russians. And they say Putin's attacks are not limited to traditional media, but rather increasingly target the Internet, choking it off as a source of criticism before even half of the population has been able to access it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/putin_condemned.html

Is the US so exceptional we are immune to those same activities?

Sigaba
10-16-2013, 08:34
IIRC, Mr. Clancy smoked like a chimney. If smoking was a factor, he wouldn't be the first person to insist that his cause of death not be released after his passing.

Also, given that Mr. Clancy's net worth was well north of a quarter of a billion dollars, it may well come to pass that his heirs have reasons to keep the cause of death under wraps.

My $0.02.

Dusty
10-16-2013, 08:51
IIRC, Mr. Clancy smoked like a chimney. If smoking was a factor, he wouldn't be the first person to insist that his cause of death not be released after his passing.

Also, given that Mr. Clancy's net worth was well north of a quarter of a billion dollars, it may well come to pass that his heirs have reasons to keep the cause of death under wraps.

My $0.02.

That's what I'm thinking.

Breitbart, from what I understand, was a ticking bomb healthwise, too.

Dusty
10-16-2013, 12:56
Please forgive my ignorance, but why would Clancy's heirs see fit to keep his cause of death under wraps due to his net worth?

Insurance.

Paslode
10-16-2013, 20:25
This is true. But I think the difference is that people thought the government was professional enough not to do certain things like this and it turns out they are more blatantly corrupt than people thought. People knew the politicians were corrupt, but thought the bureaucracy itself was more trustworthy.

But for a politician such as a president to be able to pull off something like having two people murdered and keep that under wraps would be virtually impossible I would think. Regarding Putin, well the U.S. government doesn't have the same level of control over the media that Putin has over the media and Russia.


Dude,

Considering what the politicians have gotten away with and the MSM's blind eyes over the past 6-8 years, anything is possible these days.

Benghazi is just one of many.

Sigaba
10-16-2013, 21:17
Please forgive my ignorance, but why would Clancy's heirs see fit to keep his cause of death under wraps due to his net worth?

Insurance.Also, if Mr. Clancy's heirs are going to license the man's creative works, they might not want any potential distractions/scandals/controversies to muck up the marketing thereof.

Paslode
10-23-2013, 06:54
When you guys decide to link and reprint these articles, do you ever ask yourself where the proof is?

This "Dr" Garrow makes shocking claims and offers zero proof. How does he know? If he knows it, why doesn't he provide the proof that would make people take notice?

If you think that senior officials decided to leak this bombshell to him to expose it, do you ask why him and not the NY Times, or WashPo, or Drudge, or at least someone without a fake doctorate?

You can now add alleged former Nancy Seal Ben Smith spouting the Garrow Claim.

Speaking exclusively to the Alex Jones Show, Smith stated, “Going back to the beginning of this administration, I’ve had friends within the community talking about how they were brought in and questioned with people from more towards the top side and the questioning….where it was pointing was do you feel comfortable disarming American citizens,” adding that this was one of the many “funny things” occurring within the military.

http://www.infowars.com/ex-navy-seal-military-leaders-being-asked-if-they-will-disarm-americans/