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Dusty
10-10-2013, 06:27
Docs LOVE Obamacare! :D

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-10-09.html

In the current fight over the government shutdown, Republicans are simply representing the views of the American people.

Americans didn't ask for Obamacare, they don't want it, but now their insurance premiums are going through the roof, their doctors aren't accepting it, and their employers are moving them into part-time work -- or firing them -- to avoid the law's mandates.

Contrary to Obama's promises, it turns out: You can't keep your doctor, you can't keep your insurance -- you can't even keep your job. In other words, it's a typical government program, but this one wrecks your health care.

Also, the president did raise taxes on the middle class in defiance of his well-worn campaign promise not to. Indeed, Obamacare is the largest tax hike in U.S. history.

Among the other changes effected by this law are:

-- Obamacare will allow insurers to charge 50 percent higher premiums for smokers, but prohibits insurers from increasing premiums for those with HIV/AIDS.

-- Nationally, Obamacare will increase men's individual insurance premiums by an average of 99 percent and women's by 62 percent. In North Carolina, for example, individual insurance premiums will triple for women and quadruple for men.

-- Health plans valued at $27,500 or more for a family of four will be taxed at a rate of 40 percent.

-- No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare.

-- A 62-year-old man earning $46,000 a year is entitled to a $7,836 government tax credit to buy health insurance. But if he earns an extra $22 in income, he loses the entire $7,836 credit. He will have more take-home pay by earning $46,000 than if he earns $55,000. (If he's lucky, he already works for one of the companies forced by Obamacare to reduce employees' hours!)

-- Merely to be eligible for millions of dollars in grants from the federal government under Obamacare, education and training programs are required to meet racial, ethnic, gender, linguistic and sexual orientation quotas. That's going to make health care MUCH better!



-- Obamacare is turning America into a part-time nation. According to a recent report by economist John Lott, 97 percent of all jobs added to the economy so far this year have been part-time jobs. Ninety-seven percent!

-- Obamacare is such a disaster that the people who wrote it refuse to live under it themselves. That's right, Congress won a waiver from Obamacare.

Responding to the people's will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government -- except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.

Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.

A longtime Democratic operative, Karen Finney, explained the Democrats' intransigence on MSNBC to a delighted Joan Walsh (aka the most easily fooled person on TV) by comparing House Republicans to a teenager trying to borrow his mother's car. "No, I'm not negotiating!" Mother says. "It's MY CAR!"

This wasn't a stupid slip of the tongue that other Democrats quickly rejected. Finney had used the exact same metaphor to a panel of highly agreeable MSNBC guests the day before. (MSNBC books no other kind of guest.)

The left thinks the government is their car and the people's representatives are obstreperous teenagers trying to borrow the government. Which belongs to Democrats.

That's not how the Constitution views the House of Representatives. To the contrary, the House is considered most reflective of the people's will because its members are elected every two years.

As a matter of fact, the Republicans who mistakenly assume they have something to do with running the government represent most of the people who pay taxes to run it. So it's more like a teenager who is making the car payments, maintaining the car insurance and taking responsibility for registering the car being told: "It's not your car."

But the Democrats refuse to even negotiate. It's their government -- and if you Republicans think you're going out dressed like that, you've got another thing coming! Needless to say, they absolutely will not consider the Republicans' demand that Democrats merely live under Obamacare themselves.

Instead, Democrats say "the Koch brothers" are behind the effort to defund Obamacare.

They say Republicans are trying to "burn the whole house down" (Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz); "have lost their minds" (Sen. Harry Reid); are trying to negotiate "with a bomb strapped to their chest" (senior White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer); are "legislative arsonists" (Rep. Nancy Pelosi); and are engaging in "blatant extortion" (White House press secretary Jay Carney).

The MSNBC crowd calls Republicans "arsonists" every 15 minutes. They ought to check with fellow MSNBC host Al Sharpton. He knows his arsonists! In 1995, Sharpton whipped up a mob outside the Jewish-owned Freddy's Fashion Mart with an anti-Semitic speech. Sometime later, a member of the mob torched the store, killing seven Hispanic employees.

Every single Democrat in the country uses the exact same talking point: We "refuse to negotiate with a gun being held to our head."

Which means the Democrats will not negotiate at all -- not now, not ever. House Republicans have already passed three-dozen bills defunding, or otherwise modifying, Obamacare. Senate Democrats and liberal commentators had a good laugh at Republicans for passing them.

Now they're paying attention!

If you are in the minority of Americans not already unalterably opposed to Obamacare, keep in mind that the only reason the government is shut down right now is that Democrats refuse to fund the government if they are required to live under Obamacare.

That's how good it is!

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tonyz
10-10-2013, 08:03
-- Obamacare is turning America into a part-time nation.

To match its part-time president...

kgoerz
10-10-2013, 08:14
Americans didn't ask for Obamacare, they don't want it

It was voted into law by the people Americans voted into Office. It was written by lobbyist with enough loopholes for corporations to make the most money off of it (cutting hours to 39 hours is a good example of one loophole)
It is written in a way that it will fall on the backs of the middle class. Dan Carlin said it best. It's just another way of collecting revenue from the middle class. It has nothing to do with helping people.
Just more taxes for me. Which means I will cut my spending once again. But they wonder why Americans aren't spending any money and the economy is stalled.

tonyz
10-10-2013, 10:59
The power to shut national parks and yet keep golf courses open illustrates the whimsical abuses possible with big federal government. When big government controls our healthcare...will the American people be subject to similar "whims?"

Americans' Belief That Gov't Is Too Powerful at Record Level
by Joy Wilke
Gallup
September 23, 2013

PRINCETON, NJ -- Six in 10 Americans (60%) believe the federal government has too much power, one percentage point above the previous high recorded in September 2010. At least half of Americans since 2005 have said the government has too much power. Thirty-two percent now say the government has the right amount of power. Few say it has too little power.

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/164591/americans-belief-gov-powerful-record-level.aspx

NurseTim
10-10-2013, 21:58
-- No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare.

I call shenanigans on this.

Ret10Echo
10-11-2013, 18:58
Well...apparently the Dims DO own the Government.

Commence Rant.

Boehner has been chastised by Dear Leader... folded like a cheap Fooookeen suit (or rolled over like a $5..........)

By Tuesday we'll see full funding for Obamanation Care....(screw you middle class) raising of the debt ceiling (Please Mr China...don't be cross with us)...and another continuing resolution (no decisions will be made...EVVV-err). Kick the can down the road...get me reelected. Up yours America. Sucks to be you guys.. but at least Kongress will have fresh towels in the sauna.

Paslode
10-11-2013, 22:24
Well...apparently the Dims DO own the Government.

Commence Rant.

Boehner has been chastised by Dear Leader... folded like a cheap Fooookeen suit (or rolled over like a $5..........)

By Tuesday we'll see full funding for Obamanation Care....(screw you middle class) raising of the debt ceiling (Please Mr China...don't be cross with us)...and another continuing resolution (no decisions will be made...EVVV-err). Kick the can down the road...get me reelected. Up yours America. Sucks to be you guys.. but at least Kongress will have fresh towels in the sauna.


It was all rigged, we knew Boner would put on a performance to draw people in, then go for enough rounds to make it look good, only to throw the fight in the end.

It is just another performance of the DC's Kabuki Theater.

tonyz
10-12-2013, 01:41
The political elite and prima donnas in DC should take fricken notes...

YOUR GOVERMENT, PART 1: LEGISLATION
Bill Whittle

In the first of the YOUR GOVERNMENT series, Virtual President Bill Whittle talks about the need for clear, concise, readable and UNDERSTANDABLE legislation as the centerpiece of the entire idea of Government By the People.

https://www.billwhittle.com/mr-virtual-president/your-goverment-part-1-legislation

69harley
10-13-2013, 07:13
Americans did sort of want Obama care. Most of us on this forum do not, neither do most of the people I know. But, Obama care was a major part of Obama's election campaign, and he was elected twice. Americans got exactly what they asked for.

I don't like it, but everyone had their chance at the polls and our side lost.

Will see at the next election how many are truly fed up.

Paslode
10-13-2013, 08:03
Americans did sort of want Obama care. Most of us on this forum do not, neither do most of the people I know. But, Obama care was a major part of Obama's election campaign, and he was elected twice. Americans got exactly what they asked for.

I don't like it, but everyone had their chance at the polls and our side lost.

Will see at the next election how many are truly fed up.


Aside from the promise of insurance for all, O-Care aka the Affordable Care Act was pimped as the non-sinister affordable alternative to the evil mainstream insurance plans.

It appears what they got was a 2,400 paged Trojan Horse of horrors.

Razor
10-14-2013, 20:53
Americans did sort of want Obama care. Most of us on this forum do not, neither do most of the people I know. But, Obama care was a major part of Obama's election campaign, and he was elected twice. Americans got exactly what they asked for.

I don't like it, but everyone had their chance at the polls and our side lost.

Ah, but as Mr. Sowell so aptly put, our government includes a system of checks and balances to ensure one branch does not wield absolute power. Congress submitted a tax law we call the ACA, the president signed the tax law, the SCOTUS upheld (and clearly identified) the tax law, and now the body responsible for submitting spending proposals is deciding to DELAY the funding for this tax law for the same period as unions and large businesses have been given for implementing it--1 year.

It seems "our side" is exercising its Constitutionally-defined power to influence spending to leverage the checks & balances system, regardless of what the "winners" want.

Box
10-14-2013, 21:39
Clearly the last 20 years have demonstrated that it certainly isn't the TAXPAYERs that own the government.

So maybe the dem's DO own this wreck. Now if we can just get someone to take responsibility for fixing it.

JHD
10-15-2013, 08:26
Americans did sort of want Obama care. Most of us on this forum do not, neither do most of the people I know. But, Obama care was a major part of Obama's election campaign, and he was elected twice. Americans got exactly what they asked for.

I don't like it, but everyone had their chance at the polls and our side lost.

Will see at the next election how many are truly fed up.

What they want and what they got are two different things, but I don't think people are aware of that, or even care. If the people understood what was passed and what is going to be implemented, the voters may have had a different opinion. But here we are...