mojaveman
10-09-2013, 17:40
It seems that even the Taliban are talking trash about the shutdown of the American government. :rolleyes:
http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-mock-us-over-government-shutdown-064323672.html
ddoering
10-09-2013, 18:00
Sounds about right....
"accusing US politicians of "sucking the blood of their own people"."
Ret10Echo
10-09-2013, 18:14
Sounds about right....
"accusing US politicians of "sucking the blood of their own people"."
As opposed to splattering the blood of their own people across the sidewalk.....pound sand you goat rapist Talib...
ddoering
10-09-2013, 19:58
But they admit that they do that as well. Our pols on the other hand......
Ret10Echo
10-09-2013, 20:19
But they admit that they do that as well. Our pols on the other hand......
The goats or the people?:D
They seem to be under the impression that their opinion matters.
And what in the article is inaccurate? Yeah, I despise the Taliban in Afghanistan as much as I despise the "Taliban" (politicians) in DC.
ddoering
10-10-2013, 05:54
Ditto. Just because your enemy says something doesn't neccessarily make it false. Hitler called Churchill a fat drunk several times.
Joker and Ddoering, both of you are correct. But the fact that they are opining doesn't have any validity with me. As bad as they may be, I would rather still be having issues with our politicians and working towards something better, hopefully, than I would want to be subject to the Taliban.
Our situation here is not yet beyond redemption.
Must be quite the up beat conversation around the turd pile while they wipe their asses with rocks.
Must be quite the up beat conversation around the turd pile while they wipe their asses with rocks.
I don't believe that the DCers wipe their asses, they kiss them clean :D
Got to love this.
"The American people should realise that their politicians play with their destinies as well as the destinies of other oppressed nations for the sake of their personal vested interests," the Taliban said
Unapologetic Soldier
10-10-2013, 20:58
"Instead of sucking the blood of their own people... this money should be utilised for the sake of peace,"
Yeah we all know what your definition of peace is.
Yeah we all know what your definition of peace is.
Unfortunately, many do not know the definition of peace according to Islam, including those in leadership and influential positions. Or, if they do know, they intentionally obfuscate the truth.
...My beliefs about Islam have changed since then (mostly because I’ve studied Islam). Nevertheless, I recently realized why I had been so quick to defend the Muslim religion. Over the years, I’ve known several Muslims, and they have all been kind, peaceful individuals. Indeed, despite the popular portrait of Muslims burning flags and desecrating images of George Bush, the majority of Muslims are normal, faithful, peaceful people, going about their daily lives with no intention of blowing up buildings or of burning anyone’s flag. Many in the West deny this, but they typically do so because they have never so much as talked to a Muslim.
The benevolent nature of these Muslims has a profound psychological effect on Westerners. It causes us to say, "Wait a minute. Islam can’t be bad, because Muslims are such nice people. Thus, the terrorists who blow up buildings and subways must be extremists." Once we have convinced ourselves of this, we may even find ourselves defending Islam, as I once did. We know that people are angry at terrorists, and we know that some of these angry people may want to take out their anger on Muslims. So we end up defending Islam in order to protect our Muslim friends. While protecting people is certainly a noble goal, defending Islam is an entirely different story.
If someone were to ask me, "David, do you believe that Islam is a religion of peace?" my answer would not be "Yes" or "No." Rather, my response would be, "First tell me what you mean when you say ‘Islam,’ for it is a term that is used in different ways." If by "Islam" we mean the religion that is practiced by more than a billion people around the world, I could reasonably answer with a qualified "Yes," because it is a religion of peace for many people (though not for all). But if by "Islam" we mean the religion taught by Muhammad, I would have to respond with a resounding "No..."
...Notice that we have approached this question regarding the nature of Islam using a basic historical analysis. Discussions about Islam typically revolve around certain verses in the Qur’an, but such discussions are often fruitless. The reason for this is that the Qur’an is very inconsistent in its approach towards unbelievers, due in large part to Muhammad’s own inconsistency. In conversations about Islam, a Muslim may argue that, according to the Qur’an, "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256). A critic may reply with a very different passage:
Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection (9:29).
To this the Muslim replies, "Yes, it says to fight those who do not believe, but it is referring to unbelievers who attack Islam." Thus, according to many Muslims, Islam fights, but only in self-defense. So who’s right? The solution to the debate can be found in a historical examination of Islam. It is true that Muslims are only permitted to attack when threatened, but history shows what the early Muslims considered a threat. Anything other than complete submission to Islam was regarded as a threat to Islam, and so anything other than complete submission was met with extreme hostility. Even poetry and song lyrics, when used against Muhammad, were enough to warrant a sentence of death.[6]
Hence, the verses in the Qur’an that teach Muslims to live in peace should be examined within the historical context of Muhammad’s life, for it is this life that sheds light on an apparently ambiguous message. This historical context also sheds light on modern aspects of Islam, which ultimately derive from the life of its founder.
For instance, more than thirteen centuries ago, the relatively peaceful Muhammad fled Mecca because of intense persecution. As he fled the city, he left the path of peace farther and farther behind him. He eventually returned at the head of an army, and few were brave enough to oppose him. Islamic law was suddenly supreme, with a host of bloody tales to warn its enemies. A similar phenomenon occurs in the world today. When Muslims are in the minority (as they are in America) the message is always "Let us live in peace with one another, for Islam is a religion of tolerance and understanding." Then, once Islam has spread throughout the country, the message suddenly changes to "Anyone who stands against the Prophet is worthy of death!"
Oddly enough, this tactic has been remarkably successful for Islam. Despite more than a thousand years of bloodshed, many people are convinced that Muhammad was a gentle, humble man who never harmed anyone, and that Islam teaches its followers to be at peace with everyone who hasn’t declared war on them. Then, when someone like Osama bin Laden organizes a group of Muslims in an attack against thousands of innocent people, everyone says that he must be insane, and people around the world rush to defend Islam.
The result is simply amazing. Muslims commit acts of terror in Russia, Spain, America, England, Israel, and countless other countries around the world, and it actually causes certain people to support Islam even more! Think about it. A Muslim blows up a bus, but people don’t want other Muslims to be persecuted for it, so they start defending Islam. Legislators are among the most active in this regard. Laws threatening free speech about Islam are popping up everywhere (even in the United States and Great Britain[7]), declaring that statements against Islam will not be tolerated. Indeed, Australia is on the verge of sending pastors to prison for quoting passages of the Qur’an![8]...
Link (http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/two_faces.htm)