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Dusty
09-10-2013, 07:55
I'm sure Juan Williams will be on this like a duck on a junebug. :rolleyes:

http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/union-square-beating-victim-dies-at-bellevue-hospital/#axzz2eUuvOWJc


A 62-year-old man who was brutally attacked in Union Square last week died Monday.

On Wednesday, a man shouting that he “hated white people” punched victim Jeffrey Babbitt — who is white — in the face, witnesses said, causing him to fall and strike his head on the ground.

Lashawn Marten, 31, who is black, “made statements to the effect that I’m going to punch the first white man that I see,” said NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly.

Snip

Pete
09-10-2013, 08:11
Bus rider's face smashed in during "hate attack"

http://nypost.com/2013/09/09/bus-riders-face-smashed-in-during-hate-attack/

'An attacker pummeled a bus passenger so hard he smashed the bones in his face after calling the victim a “cracker” in Manhattan – marking the second time in two days that people appeared to be randomly targeted in racial tirades against white people, authorities said.............."

Dusty
09-10-2013, 08:27
Why no lamestream coverage?

Maybe it's "Hollywooditis"...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ed-asner-hollywood-silent-on-syria-because-they-dont-want-to-feel-anti-black/

Richard
09-10-2013, 08:48
Why no lamestream coverage?

Coverage by the likes of the NY Post and KPIX11, a NY station in a market of 10 million viewers and owned by Tribune Media out of Chicago (Fox, ABC, and CW stations in markets like NYC, DFW, LA, DC, Denver, Seattle, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Chicago, Houston, etc) aren't "lamestream" anymore? :confused:

Richard

Dusty
09-10-2013, 08:52
Coverage by the likes of the NY Post and KPIX11, a NY station in a market of 10 million viewers and owned by Tribune Media out of Chicago (Fox, ABC, and CW in markets like NYC, DFW, LA, DC, Denver, Seattle, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Chicago, Houston, etc) aren't "lamestream" anymore? :confused:

Richard

Compared to their months-long, exhaustive, worshipful, lamentating inundation of all media regarding the coverage of a black trespasser shot in self defense?

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

Richard
09-10-2013, 08:59
Compared to their months-long, exhaustive, worshipful, lamentating inundation of all media regarding the coverage of a black trespasser shot in self defense?

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

Hunh.

Richard

Sigaba
09-10-2013, 09:07
Compared to their months'-long, exhaustive, worshipful, lamentating inundation of all media regarding the coverage of a black trespasser shot in self defense?

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.
Who was trespassing?

Dusty
09-10-2013, 09:44
Who was trespassing?

Oh. You must have missed the story. Martin. That's why he was confronted. Then, he tried to ground and pound the other guy and got shot.

It was all over the news. For a few months.

badshot
09-10-2013, 09:47
Hypocrisy and real Racism.

Had a Latino friend in Montana whom was treated like crap in a Missoula Walmart. The San Fran of the Northern Rockies.

Pete
09-10-2013, 10:23
Oh. You must have missed the story. Martin. That's why he was confronted. Then, he tried to ground and pound the other guy and got shot.

It was all over the news. For a few months.

Was not trespassing. Was a guest of a person who lived there.

Dusty
09-10-2013, 11:40
Was not trespassing. Was a guest of a person who lived there.

Not to beat a dead horse, but if Martin "intruded" or "encroached" within the area of responsibility for security, without Zimmerman being informed that he was a guest, Zimmerman-as a securty guard-was correct in assuming trespass.

That's why there was an altercation in the first place.

Pete
09-10-2013, 12:47
Not to beat a dead horse, but if Martin "intruded" or "encroached" within the area of responsibility for security, without Zimmerman being informed that he was a guest, Zimmerman-as a securty guard-was correct in assuming trespass.

That's why there was an altercation in the first place.

Dusty, you are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Zimmerman was a member of the Neighborhood Watch not a paid security guard.

I've been a member of a Neighborhood Watch and residents are under no responsibility to inform the Neighborhood Watch that they have guests.

Zimmerman did not key on Martin because he might be trespassing but because his actions were suspicious. Suspicious is suspicious be it a resident, guest or trespasser.

Dusty
09-10-2013, 14:36
Dusty, you are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Zimmerman was a member of the Neighborhood Watch not a paid security guard.

I've been a member of a Neighborhood Watch and residents are under no responsibility to inform the Neighborhood Watch that they have guests.

Zimmerman did not key on Martin because he might be trespassing but because his actions were suspicious. Suspicious is suspicious be it a resident, guest or trespasser.

Whether he was paid is irrelevant, Pete. What is the Neighborhood Watch designed to do, if not guard the security of the neighbors who organized the watch?

"On watch" is lexiconically interchangeable with "on guard", and "security" is the reason for the organization in the first place.

I'll acquiesce on "tresspasser", though; I could have been more accurate with "suspect"-you're right.

Sigaba
09-10-2013, 16:24
Whether he was paid is irrelevant, Pete. What is the Neighborhood Watch designed to do, if not guard the security of the neighbors who organized the watch?

"On watch" is lexiconically interchangeable with "on guard", and "security" is the reason for the organization in the first place.

I'll acquiesce on "tresspasser", though; I could have been more accurate with "suspect"-you're right.Is there documentary evidence to establish that the mission of the neighborhood watch at The Retreat at Twin Lakes was to guard the neighborhood rather to watch and then report suspicious behavior?

And is the event reported in the OP really even comparable to the Zimmerman Martin Affair?

Dusty
09-10-2013, 16:36
Is there documentary evidence to establish that the mission of the neighborhood watch at The Retreat at Twin Lakes was to guard the neighborhood rather to watch and then report suspicious behavior?

And is the event reported in the OP really even comparable to the Zimmerman Martin Affair?

The best way to guard anything is to watch and then report suspicious behavior. In the military, there used to be things such as Listening and Observation Posts, Sentries, stuff like that. It contributes to security, hence the "security" part of "security guard". What reason would you have for a neighborhood watch other than to enhance the security of that neighborhood?

The event reported in the OP really isn't comparable to the Zimmerman-Martin affair because the press doesn't hammer black-on-white attacks with anywhere near the hysteria that it engulfs all LOC's with a white-on-black event.

Why pick apart two words out of a man's post, other than to attempt to detract from the obvious fact that the press is blatantly biased in its reporting on racial turmoil?

badshot
09-10-2013, 16:41
the obvious fact that the press is blatantly biased in its reporting on racial turmoil?

Bingo

ddoering
09-10-2013, 16:56
Community Watch is a legacy form of the Watch and Ward system from the Middle Ages whereby communities set up roving watches to preserve the peace and warn of impending danger. I'm sure the rules varied from one to the other. It is still inherent in our common law legal system and one of the implied components is self defense.

Now, if you take offense at a crazy ass cracker following you around a place that you do not live and take it upon yourself to jump him don't be surprised if you end up looking like the President's son (if he had one), face down with a bullet in your chest. Dem crazy ass crackers be crazy, hence the name.....:boohoo

Now, if said crazy ass cracker had said,"Nobody moves or the nigger gets it!" then we may have a problem.

Stobey
09-11-2013, 22:44
...Why pick apart two words out of a man's post, other than to attempt to detract from the obvious fact that the press is blatantly biased in its reporting on racial turmoil?

Thank you, Dusty, sir.

Richard
09-12-2013, 07:33
Why pick apart two words out of a man's post, other than to attempt to detract from the obvious fact that the press is blatantly biased in its reporting on racial turmoil?

I didn't quite read it that way and think he was attempting something more along the line of these contextual themes in human communications studies.

http://www.colorado.edu/communication/meta-discourses/Papers/App_Papers/Henry.htm

http://www.yale.edu/ypq/articles/oct99/oct99b.html

Richard

The Reaper
09-12-2013, 09:26
Open season on whitey!

TR

tonyz
09-12-2013, 09:47
[COLOR="Lime"]I didn't quite read it that way and think he was attempting something more along the line of these contextual themes in human communications studies.

http://www.colorado.edu/communication/meta-discourses/Papers/App_Papers/Henry.htm

http://www.yale.edu/ypq/articles/oct99/oct99b.html


Essentially, the fact that media outlets can be persuasive is not new...perhaps...what is new is the direction in which they slant the coverage?

From the Yale piece posted above with my comments/observations in blue:

Mass Media and Racism
by Stephen Balkaran
Volume 21, Number 1

October 1999

Conclusions

The media have and will continue to portray a self-serving negative stereotype of the African-American community. Perhaps, the pendulum has swung since 1999 - and much of the media has responded - in the extreme - in the opposite direction? Could a media shift be prompting many of the observations - made in the OP and some follow up observations - that the media has not covered black on white crime with the same vigor that white on black crime appears to be portrayed? The media, even going so far to create a "White-Hispanic??"

The societal and economic factors of racism have become more than just a bias. They are also a profitable industry, in which the elite will continue to suppress the lower class in order to maximize profits. Some things have not changed since 1999.According to Harvard professor Cornell West, 1 percent of the elite holds some 48 percent of America's wealth. This means that media, racism, and stereotypes will continue to be employed so that those elite can be sure of their continuing economic stability.

Endnotes
_____________________
Thanks to Ronald Taylor Ph.D., Director of the Institute for African American Studies and Professor of Sociology, Darryl McMiller, Ph.D. Professor of Political Science, and Rose Lovelace, Program Coordinator of the IAAS at the University of Connecticut for their help in researching and documenting this paper.

I know it's a stretch - but could Cornell West and Ronald Taylor have their own agenda? Could that agenda further an agenda shared by the author of the cited piece, Steven Balkaran? Given that media is persuasive...could a shift be equally persuasive? Are we experiencing a shift and folks here are merely commenting on what they observe in 2013 - which differs significantly from some observations in 1999? IMO, there has been a not insignificant shift in media reporting on the subject issue.

FWIW here are some recent comments - at link below - made by former Balkaran students:

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=898652

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1589070

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=733836