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Ret10Echo
07-11-2013, 05:41
I find this concerning....
Considering the App that pointed out "high-crime" neighborhoods (based upon statistics) was quashed..link (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/01/17/app-that-would-guide-users-away-from-high-crime-areas-proves-controversial/)..this thing is off the charts in comparison
Gun Geo Marker app tries to locate homes, businesses of gun owners
By Jeremy A. Kaplan
Published July 11, 2013
FoxNews.com
A new Android app asks users to expose the home addresses of gun owners they deem “potentially unsafe” -- and share that information with the world.
The Gun Geo Marker app, released to Google’s Play app store on July 7, invites users to mark the homes and businesses of “suspected unsafe gun owners … to help others in the area learn about their geography of risk from gun accidents or violence.
Story here (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07/11/gun-geo-marker-app-tries-to-locate-homes-businesses-gun-owners/)
another feel good..OMG!!! we need to do something!!! bag of tricks.
Why do the sheep feel that having information helps?
AL :munchin
Streck-Fu
07-11-2013, 05:58
invites users to mark the homes and businesses of “suspected unsafe gun owners
Sounds like a thief's perfect tool....
...And anyone can input anyone's address without any oversight.....:munchin
Badger52
07-11-2013, 05:59
From the app developer's push-back:
"As a gun owner myself, I want to see our rights preserved, and thwarting the will of 90 percent of the American people who want common sense, Constitutional measures to improve gun safety..."
See any commonly trotted-out rhetoric there?
:rolleyes:
Streck-Fu
07-11-2013, 06:03
Sounds like someone only claiming to be a gun owner.
Ret10Echo
07-11-2013, 06:11
Sounds like someone only claiming to be a gun owner.
Brett Stalbaum, the developer of Gun Geo Marker and a lecturer with the Visual Arts department of the University of California, San Diego, said he had received threats over the app
Kalifornian
Academic
Visual Arts
Gun owner???????
Agree.
I don't want to perpetuate a stereotype....but....seriously?
So can an App developer be held liable?
Barbarian
07-11-2013, 06:24
Would be interesting to see the nations gun owners use the app to list the homes and businesses of known libs.
No one in my immediate area has guns.......but within 10 miles there is one tagged as a 'Anti-Government/Terror Threat' and another tagged as 'Out of Place, Large Arsenal'.
The 'Out of Place, Large Arsenal' tag is in the approximate area of a Class III/NFA dealer.
This app is run on Google Maps so it shouldn't be too long before you can get a street view.
MiTTMedic
07-11-2013, 08:52
Calling someone unsafe to own arms would open up a slander lawsuit, IMO.
Aiding theifs in firarm theft would be another lawsuit, IMO.
I'm not sue-happy, but I would to prove a point & maybe prevent some from thinking about making said information public.
The app limits how often you can tag or mark a location. I marked the local PoPo and then the app shut down my ability to mark locations.
Oldrotorhead
07-11-2013, 11:42
Would be interesting to see the nations gun owners use the app to list the homes and businesses of known libs.
Yes! The more bad address people add to this the better. Add a note that large amounts of cash are also sored at these addresses.:)
Hmm, as a thief looking for a target which house would you choose?
I'm willing to bet not the house marked on the app as "Crazy Survivalist with cleared fields of fire out to the street."
MiTTMedic
07-11-2013, 12:58
Hmm, as a thief looking for a target which house would you choose?
I'm willing to bet not the house marked on the app as "Crazy Survivalist with cleared fields of fire out to the street."
BUT, that might get you broken into when you are at work.
BUT, that might get you broken into when you are at work.
My work desk is about 8 feet from the front door.
Besides I have DBD Security Service
DBD - Darn Big Dawgs
rubberneck
07-11-2013, 14:57
I'm going to build an app that allows users to identify home owners that don't take home security seriously. I'll start with an uber liberal neighbor who never locks her door. I wonder how long would it take before apple or google pulls the app citing safety concerns.
I'm going to build an app that allows users to identify home owners that don't take home security seriously. I'll start with an uber liberal neighbor who never locks her door. I wonder how long would it take before apple or google pulls the app citing safety concerns.
While you're at it...add an app that identifies and marks the home of unsafe software developers who lecture at UC-San Diego.
My work desk is about 8 feet from the front door.
Besides I have DBD Security Service
DBD - Darn Big Dawgs
yeeh..but what if......ok cool..but what if...
I love it when folks what if the shit out of something..
I have SBAAW.. Small Bad Ass Asian Women..with gun. (OK I am trying here)
AL
Badger52
07-12-2013, 06:27
I have SBAAW.. Small Bad Ass Asian Women..with gun. (OK I am trying here)
AL. . :D
ghp95134
07-12-2013, 09:55
If you can get a street view of the gun-owner's property, mebbys this sign will be visible:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/sharder8/Neighbors_house_not_armed_zpsf0527e0a.jpg
--ghp
The app no longer functions as a 'Marker'. Now users have one icon too choose: What the Project Really Is......which does not function. And below that the word: Honeypot.
So I went to their website to see what I could find out and I found this chaotic post "What is the Gun Geo Marker". Which for me was like reading an identity crisis of a Gun Owner who is a Closet Gun Control Advocate
I am a gun owner, but...I am not sure....I am so confused.....so until I figure out who I am I will lead dual lives and frolic on both sides of the fence.
What is the Gun Geo Marker?
Posted on July 13, 2013 by stalbaum Standard
What is the Gun Geo Marker?
It is two things. First, it is a speculative design experiment “in the wild” that is to suss out what the parameters of a successful gun safety app might be. For example, the experiment showed that there is great potential for “local use only” mapping applications, or using GPS to constrain use of mapping interfaces only to the place in which one stands. This has applications for public data of a sensitive nature as it disallows arbitrary global browsing, keeping all information into its local context. Also, the ontology for marking dangerous guns owners feels like an excellent start. An aspect of the project which did not work – nor did I expect it to in this particular case – was the use of anonymous marking of sites. Simply stated, the project suffered numerous hacking attacks that filled the database with false info, not to mention that anti-gun-safety types have also used the app itself as a tool for mischief. It is both sad to see, but also something that I grudgingly admit I have a certain level of respect for as an electronic activist myself. The issues of hacking and intentionally false data might be solved by an organization with sufficient resources through using authentication and some type of verification regimen to ensure the data is of high quality.
Secondly, the App was a honeypot. As a gun owner myself, I am all too aware of a smaller component of the community that sees any attempt at improving gun safety as an affront to their second amendment rights. Reasonable regulations that do not interfere with anyone’s second amendment rights – such as universal background checks and trigger locks when guns are unattended in the presence of children – are needed to help abate the gun violence epidemic in this country. But some places in the United States seem committed to going in the opposite direction, as in Florida where a law was passed preventing medical doctors from asking about gun safety in the home as they might about swimming pool safety. So, the project is also a culture-jamming exercise intended to draw out earnest expressions from the radical anti-gun-safety community, expressions that will now become part of a second phase of the project which involves aesthetic manifestations. The app itself will remain online for a time so that people can play with the user interface, after which it will morph into a purely “documentation” application about the project.
Brett Stalbaum
http://gungeomarker.org/