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Team Sergeant
07-02-2013, 12:19
Jester is at it again..... it's very amusing how one individual can bring a country to it's knees......;)
Stay Frosty Jester.....


EXCLUSIVE: Pro-US hacker 'The Jester' takes aim at nations helping Snowden


By Jana Winter
Published July 02, 2013
FoxNews.com

The self-described patriot hacker known as “The Jester” says he’ll carry out cyber attacks on countries considering granting asylum to Edward Snowden.

Beginning early Monday, The Jester hacked into several government websites in Ecuador as reports circulated that Snowden, who divulged secrets on the National Security Agency’s spying programs, could be headed there. With Venezuela emerging as a possible landing spot for Snowden, The Jester told FoxNews.com he could turn his attention to that South American country.

“These are enemies and I that's how I will be treating them, and anyone who facilitates them,” The Jester told FoxNews.com in an online interview.

The Jester launched denial of service attacks on a website hosting Ecuador’s tourism ministry and on another that hosts the country’s stock market home page. While in communication with FoxNews.com, he appeared to be taking the sites on and offline. When Ecuador abruptly reversed its stance and said it would not harbor Snowden, The Jester told FoxNews.com he would restore the sites. Within minutes, they were back online.

The Jester’s real identity is not known, but he has hacked into various jihadist websites, taking down Internet forums where terrorists and wannabes gather online. He calls himself a “hacker for good,” and he told FoxNews.com that he sees people like Snowden and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks mastermind who has also disseminated government secrets, as similarly dangerous to U.S. interests.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/02/pro-us-hacker-jester-takes-aim-at-nations-helping-snowden/#ixzz2Xuhbb9Yp

SF18C
07-02-2013, 12:25
Hooha! :lifter

orion5
07-02-2013, 12:31
Um, Venezuela.....you listening??

You have super hot women, but I don't think that will derail th3j35ter when he's on a mission! :D

uspsmark
07-02-2013, 12:40
Jester is at it again..... it's very amusing how one individual can bring a country to it's knees......;)
Stay Frosty Jester.....


EXCLUSIVE: Pro-US hacker 'The Jester' takes aim at nations helping Snowden


By Jana Winter
Published July 02, 2013
FoxNews.com

The self-described patriot hacker known as “The Jester” says he’ll carry out cyber attacks on countries considering granting asylum to Edward Snowden.

Beginning early Monday, The Jester hacked into several government websites in Ecuador as reports circulated that Snowden, who divulged secrets on the National Security Agency’s spying programs, could be headed there. With Venezuela emerging as a possible landing spot for Snowden, The Jester told FoxNews.com he could turn his attention to that South American country.

“These are enemies and I that's how I will be treating them, and anyone who facilitates them,” The Jester told FoxNews.com in an online interview.

The Jester launched denial of service attacks on a website hosting Ecuador’s tourism ministry and on another that hosts the country’s stock market home page. While in communication with FoxNews.com, he appeared to be taking the sites on and offline. When Ecuador abruptly reversed its stance and said it would not harbor Snowden, The Jester told FoxNews.com he would restore the sites. Within minutes, they were back online.

The Jester’s real identity is not known, but he has hacked into various jihadist websites, taking down Internet forums where terrorists and wannabes gather online. He calls himself a “hacker for good,” and he told FoxNews.com that he sees people like Snowden and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks mastermind who has also disseminated government secrets, as similarly dangerous to U.S. interests.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/02/pro-us-hacker-jester-takes-aim-at-nations-helping-snowden/#ixzz2Xuhbb9Yp

I posted that at 12:42 today in the Snowden in Moscow thread...does that mean I get one of my "failure to search" reprimands removed? :D

Trying to get out of one hole and probably digging another!

SF18C
07-02-2013, 12:51
I posted that at 12:42 today in the Snowden in Moscow thread...does that mean I get one of my "failure to search" reprimands removed? :D

Trying to get out of one hole and probably digging another!

:eek:
Now that is funny right there!

But as a side note...you probably ought to put down the shovel and back away from the Team Sergeant!

uspsmark
07-02-2013, 13:09
:eek:
Now that is funny right there!

But as a side note...you probably ought to put down the shovel and back away from the Team Sergeant!

I bow to his supreme authority...as always. He'll probably smack me upside the head with an E-Tool for that one either way!

craigepo
07-02-2013, 14:14
Damn. That's amazing. Smiting despots from the comfort of his couch.

Bravo.

Might have to get one of those Jester hats.

MR2
07-02-2013, 14:32
Smiting despots from the comfort of his couch.

Sounds like a great tagline right there.

echoes
07-02-2013, 14:50
Might have to get one of those Jester hats.

http://www.zazzle.com/jestergear

Well, the above link has them...and a lot more! :cool:

Keep Kicking Ass Jester! :lifter

Holly

Wiseman
08-01-2013, 09:56
His site has been closed by Homeland Security

http://www.jesterscourt.cc/

rubberneck
08-01-2013, 10:27
:eek:
Now that is funny right there!

But as a side note...you probably ought to put down the shovel and back away from the Team Sergeant!


With the way he wields that shovel I wonder if he's an attorney from Colorado.:lifter

SF18C
08-01-2013, 10:50
His site has been closed by Homeland Security

http://www.jesterscourt.cc/

By ICE no less! :p

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 03:08
Meh. I'm a fan of his hacking Jihadi sites and such...this, though...it just smacks of "anything the government does is good; they aren't violating our rights; anyone who says the government is violating our rights, or attempts to expose bad stuff, is an enemy, and I will deal with them harshly."

Snowden may not be a hero, but he's not the bad guy here. Jester, if you want to do some good, why don't you try DoSing the NSA...or the website of every senator/representative who votes against taking this power away from NSA and FISC...just a thought...

Then again, that would entail actually putting ones 4th point of contact on the line, and risking jail time...so that's no fun, right?

Trapper John
08-02-2013, 05:25
Meh. I'm a fan of his hacking Jihadi sites and such...this, though...it just smacks of "anything the government does is good; they aren't violating our rights; anyone who says the government is violating our rights, or attempts to expose bad stuff, is an enemy, and I will deal with them harshly."

Snowden may not be a hero, but he's not the bad guy here. Jester, if you want to do some good, why don't you try DoSing the NSA...or the website of every senator/representative who votes against taking this power away from NSA and FISC...just a thought...

Then again, that would entail actually putting ones 4th point of contact on the line, and risking jail time...so that's no fun, right?

Let me suggest that you put those thoughts in a series of Tweets to Jester. I am certain that he will engage you in a "conversation" on those points.;)

Be sure to let us know how that goes for ya too. :D

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 05:50
Let me suggest that you put those thoughts in a series of Tweets to Jester. I am certain that he will engage you in a "conversation" on those points.;)

Be sure to let us know how that goes for ya too. :D



I post those same opinions publicly, and quite often. As it turns out, I'm in the same business...I don't hack (grew out of that phase) but I work in network intrusion detection/incident response. I'm not terribly fond of 'issuing challenges,' especially considering the prevalence of DDoS these days, but really...if you DDoS anything I own, you'll block access to a blog nobody reads anyway. Back on topic...I'm not fond of issuing challenges, and this isn't intended to be one, but I'm not living my life in fear that someone will break into my interpipes and steal all my megahertz, either...and I will be more than happy to engage Jester in conversation on the aforementioned points.

Also, like I said...I was always a big fan of the Jester...until this Snowden business. Want to fuck with Manning supporters? Go for it. Manning was no whistleblower, considering his indiscriminate dump of tons of media he never even read. Snowden...well, he's a douche, but he went about this the right, way, IMO, and broke open something the American public NEEDED to know about. Will We The People do anything about it? Probably not...but we needed to know. So yeah...this anti-Snowden hacking campaign, to me, is right up there with the people who think you're un-Amurriken if you didn't agree with the war in Iraq.

So, with that said, yes, I will engage Jester via Twitter...as soon as I sign up for a Twitter account...



Edit: Oh, and please keep hitting WBC. Anything that costs them money can't be bad.

alelks
08-02-2013, 06:19
Snowden may not be a hero, but he's not the bad guy here.

I'm still stuck on this comment. :eek:

Snowden is a young egotistical punk that is full of himself.

He IS a criminal.

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 06:25
Snowden is a young egotistical punk that is full of himself.

Of course he is...and I have no doubt his motivations were purely selfish and show a great deal of douchebaggery. The why, though, is less important than the what...and what he did was expose massive corruption to the American public.


He IS a criminal.
Yes...and so are the people at NSA he 'betrayed.' Spying on American citizens IS, in fact, a crime.

I know, I know, it's for the children, and we have to protect everyone from terrorists, and on and on...but the fact is...it's illegal.



Anyway...I would personally describe Snowden as someone who did the right thing for all the wrong reasons.

MK262MOD1
08-02-2013, 07:17
Snowden did not do the right thing. I am just not sure how you can say that. He pledged to secure his work and that of others, he broke his pledge. There are ways to bring attention to issues without doing what he did.

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 07:20
Snowden did not do the right thing. I am just not sure how you can say that. He pledged to secure his work and that of others, he broke his pledge. There are ways to bring attention to issues without doing what he did.

Because bringing government corruption to the attention of the government has been so successful in the past? I suppose this is where you and I disagree. IMO, the only way this was EVER going to be challenged is to be brought to the attention of the public.

"It's illegal for you to expose my illegal activities!"

yep...makes sense to me...


Really...going through official channels changes nothing. Government doesn't WANT to give freedom back once they have taken it away. Do you think you'll ever have your 2nd amendment restored by telling the government that gun control laws are unconstitutional? No. In fact, the only way you'll ever get those rights back is for everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, to simply stop following unconstitutional laws.

So, coming back to the topic, yes, I think every single unConstitutional activity at Meade should be busted wide open. Every analyst should refuse to even look at that information. Somehow, at some point, we have to take our freedom back.

alelks
08-02-2013, 07:42
STILL stuck on the comment that he is not a bad guy. Can't wrap my head around that one and your follow on comments did nothing to help. :munchin

Team Sergeant
08-02-2013, 07:44
Snowden did not do the right thing. I am just not sure how you can say that. He pledged to secure his work and that of others, he broke his pledge. There are ways to bring attention to issues without doing what he did.

How else does one whistle blow on corrupt government programs?

As I've said before, I don't care that the NSA is gathering data on foreign individuals, but gathering data on just about every American? That's never been in their charter until the "secret" court said it was ok. And why a "secret" court, because it was illegal.

How much Freedom do you want to give up for "Security".....?

MK262MOD1
08-02-2013, 07:49
None.



I guess I am under the mistken impression that when you work in the security field with access to data, you are supposed to work through the system to insure whatever you do does not harm the country you work for and love.

I to fail to see how he is acting as a good guy. He did not even try to utilize any of the oversight programs. At least from what I have seen.



But,

To answer your question, I am not willing to give up any freedoms.

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 07:50
STILL stuck on the comment that he is not a bad guy. Can't wrap my head around that one and your follow on comments did nothing to help. :munchin



I think there's a big difference between not THE bad guy and not A bad guy. Snowden is a douche, and deserves to be punched, repeatedly and forcefully, in the left testicle. The NSA are far bigger douches, and if someone is looking for a worthwhile target, they need only look for ways to cripple the government's ability to spy on the citizen.

alelks
08-02-2013, 07:55
But still 2 wrongs don't make a right. He is definitely in the wrong and by doing it the way he did shows me that he didn't do it for the right reasons. If he was a whistle blower he would not have defected to Russia and made a fool of himself on video.

"The" bad guy and "A" bad guy are a mute point as bad is bad no matter how you word it. I would say he is one of "The" bad guys in this mess and thus "A" bad guy.

Team Sergeant
08-02-2013, 07:58
None.



I guess I am under the mistken impression that when you work in the security field with access to data, you are supposed to work through the system to insure whatever you do does not harm the country you work for and love.

I to fail to see how he is acting as a good guy. He did not even try to utilize any of the oversight programs. At least from what I have seen.



But,

To answer your question, I am not willing to give up any freedoms.

IMO collecting data on every American is a powerful tool and from what we've seen in the IRS that data "can and will" be used by a corrupt government against those same Americans to pursue it's left-wing agenda.

Also IMO people should already be in prison for what has transpired in the IRS, now we allow a "secret" gov agency to take those actions to the 10th degree?

This is how communism works, not a free society.

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 08:34
I guess I am under the mistken impression that when you work in the security field with access to data, you are supposed to work through the system to insure whatever you do does not harm the country you work for and love.



I guess my problem with this is...I have no faith in the system. It's broken. It won't be fixed until the people step up, and we can't do that if we don't know about the problems. And...in many (probably most) cases, common sense tells whether the information you release is harmful to the country. Telling the American people their government is screwing them over? Helpful. Telling the Taliban about a proposed operation against them? Harmful.

Irishsquid
08-02-2013, 08:39
Back to the original topic here...I think it's also worth noting the firing exploit traffic across state and international boundaries is also a crime...meaning, Jester is a criminal. If we're going to automatically say Snowden deserves what he gets for being a criminal...then how can we champion Jester?

alelks
08-02-2013, 08:40
I guess my problem with this is...I have no faith in the system. It's broken. It won't be fixed until the people step up, and we can't do that if we don't know about the problems. And...in many (probably most) cases, common sense tells whether the information you release is harmful to the country. Telling the American people their government is screwing them over? Helpful. Telling the Taliban about a proposed operation against them? Harmful.


But at the same time telling your enemy you have the capability to monitor any and all of their communications (among other things) = VERY BAD.

Oh don't get me wrong I do not like what they are doing but this guy not only exposed what they are doing to US citizens but is running his mouth to other countries that are not our friends which makes him a VERY bad guy.

BOfH
08-02-2013, 09:04
But at the same time telling your enemy you have the capability to monitor any and all of their communications (among other things) = VERY BAD.

Oh don't get me wrong I do not like what they are doing but this guy not only exposed what they are doing to US citizens but is running his mouth to other countries that are not our friends which makes him a VERY bad guy.

QP alelks,

IMHO, I believe many countries are already aware of our SIGINT/ELINT capabilities, whether we share with them(think ANZUS/UKUSA) or not. Our "friends"(and enemies) gripe is that a large portion of the network infrastructure which makes up the internet resides in the US, and the lines between foreign SIGINT and domestic become practically non-existent due to the internet's inherent lack of boundaries. That said, the NSA's actions are criminal at best, but so are Snowden's; I would have had far more respect for him if he went to say, Rand Paul to bring this to light, as opposed to our frenemies.

I'll end with this: Being in a similar line of work as Irishsquid, TheJester et. al., asymmetric cyber operations, such as those carried out by TheJester are a double edged sword. There is no ROE, and the risk to your 4th PoC is directly proportionate to that which your target can identify, contain and respond to your attack, especially when you are civilian engaging in what could be construed as an act of war against a foreign government; your government's tacit approval notwithstanding(think plausible denial and expendable).

My jaded .02

alelks
08-02-2013, 09:38
QP alelks,

IMHO, I believe many countries are already aware of our SIGINT/ELINT capabilities, whether we share with them(think ANZUS/UKUSA) or not. Our "friends"(and enemies) gripe is that a large portion of the network infrastructure which makes up the internet resides in the US, and the lines between foreign SIGINT and domestic become practically non-existent due to the internet's inherent lack of boundaries. That said, the NSA's actions are criminal at best, but so are Snowden's; I would have had far more respect for him if he went to say, Rand Paul to bring this to light, as opposed to our frenemies.

I'll end with this: Being in a similar line of work as Irishsquid, TheJester et. al., asymmetric cyber operations, such as those carried out by TheJester are a double edged sword. There is no ROE, and the risk to your 4th PoC is directly proportionate to that which your target can identify, contain and respond to your attack, especially when you are civilian engaging in what could be construed as an act of war against a foreign government; your government's tacit approval notwithstanding(think plausible denial and expendable).

My jaded .02

Foreign governments are VERY aware of it but you don't go on national TV in another country and announce it to the world.

Snowden didn't have to go on national TV (in Russia of all countries) and make those comments. Some would say he didn't know he was being recorded but I would disagree.

BOfH
08-02-2013, 09:41
Foreign governments are VERY aware of it but you don't go on national TV in another country and announce it to the world.

Snowden didn't have to go on national TV (in Russia of all countries) and make those comments. Some would say he didn't know he was being recorded but I would disagree.

I agree with you there, the Guardian interview was bad enough, but at least it got the point across with a nominal amount of damage, he should have put the shovel down at that point.

My .02