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Trapper John
06-28-2013, 08:40
Looks like things are heating up again with protests against the Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/world/middleeast/egypt-tensions.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0
Also saw where Israel is taking this seriously and ordering its citizens out of Sinai. http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=10313
Trapper John
07-01-2013, 11:36
Possibly a coup de tat underway in Egypt. :lifter
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/protesters-ransack-muslim-brotherhood-hq-demand-morsis-resignation/2013/07/01/f3f79698-e23c-11e2-a11e-c2ea876a8f30_story.html
10:1 BHO offers Morsi asylum?
10:1 BHO offers Morsi asylum?
More likely the new Border Tsar or Ambassador to Israel.
Looks like things are heating up again with protests against the Muslim Brotherhood
Have the Egyptians captured Ayman al-Zawahiri? :lifter :confused: :confused:
Only time will tell....
Edited to add...
Nope…..Scratch that thought…..:(
It appears it may have been Moahmmed Al-Zawahri…. http://cynthiafarahat.com/
Trapper John
07-29-2013, 06:22
Gawly SGT Carter! Surprise, surprise, surprise!
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139605/robert-springborg/sisis-islamist-agenda-for-egypt
Although he has vowed to lead Egypt through a democratic transition, there are plenty of indications that he is less than enthusiastic about democracy and that he intends to hold on to political power himself. But that’s not to say that he envisions a return to the secular authoritarianism of Egypt’s recent past. Given the details of Sisi’s biography and the content of his only published work, a thesis he wrote in 2006 while studying at the U.S. Army War College in Pennsylvania, it seems possible that he might have something altogether different in mind: a hybrid regime that would combine Islamism with militarism. To judge from the ideas about governance that he put forward in his thesis, Sisi might see himself less as a custodian of Egypt’s democratic future than as an Egyptian version of Muhammed Zia ul-Haq, the Pakistani general who seized power in 1977 and set about to “Islamicize” state and society in Pakistan.
Gawly SGT Carter! Surprise, surprise, surprise.........
"..........If Sisi continues to seek legitimacy for military rule by associating it with Islamism, it could prove to be a disaster for Egypt. At the very least, it would set back the democratic cause immeasurably. It would also reinforce the military’s octopus-like hold on the economy, which is already one of the major obstacles to the country's economic development. And it would also pose new dilemmas for the military itself: somehow it would need to reconcile serving the strategic objectives of Islam and those of its American patrons. It’s not clear whether that circle could be squared. And the experiment would likely come at the expense of the Egyptian people..........."
We'll see.
"..........If Sisi continues to seek legitimacy for military rule by associating it with Islamism, it could prove to be a disaster for Egypt. At the very least, it would set back the democratic cause immeasurably. It would also reinforce the military’s octopus-like hold on the economy, which is already one of the major obstacles to the country's economic development. And it would also pose new dilemmas for the military itself: somehow it would need to reconcile serving the strategic objectives of Islam and those of its American patrons. It’s not clear whether that circle could be squared. And the experiment would likely come at the expense of the Egyptian people..........."
We'll see.
While not Islamic, China's economy is similarly military dependent - if not outright controlled. Will either learn lessons from the other?
Trapper John
07-29-2013, 07:49
"..........If Sisi continues to seek legitimacy for military rule by associating it with Islamism, it could prove to be a disaster for Egypt. At the very least, it would set back the democratic cause immeasurably. It would also reinforce the military’s octopus-like hold on the economy, which is already one of the major obstacles to the country's economic development. And it would also pose new dilemmas for the military itself: somehow it would need to reconcile serving the strategic objectives of Islam and those of its American patrons. It’s not clear whether that circle could be squared. And the experiment would likely come at the expense of the Egyptian people..........."
We'll see.
I see this as highly consistent with Muhammad's actions in Medina. Say one thing while doing another. Cobbling together alliances with Christians and Jews to further his end then accomplishing that end toss them aside and turn on them as enemies. The original community organizer IMO. Hmmm....now that I think of it that does sound all too familiar.
The Reaper
07-29-2013, 16:46
I believe he may be saying what he thinks he has to in order to keep the lid on the Brotherhood and other islamic extremists.
TR
I believe he may be saying what he thinks he has to in order to keep the lid on the Brotherhood and other islamic extremists.
TR
If that's what he's doing things are going to get real bloody not too far down the road.
Egypt bloodshed: At least 149 killed as troops clear pro-Morsi camps
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/14/20016550-egypt-bloodshed-at-least-149-killed-as-troops-clear-pro-morsi-camps?lite
"CAIRO – Egypt descended into a chaotic bloodbath – and another political crisis - Wednesday after security forces backed by bulldozers moved into opposition protest camps set up by supporters of ousted president Mohammed Morsi, sparking deadly violence.
At least 149 people were killed and 1,403 injured, the country’s health ministry said, but the toll looked certain to rise as unrest spread from Cairo to other parts of the country................"
The pro Morsi crowd got the short end of the stick - today.
We'll see how Friday turns out.
Airbornelawyer
08-14-2013, 13:38
According to the last report I read, the Interior Minister announced that 21 police stations had been attacked and 43 members of the security forces killed, including two major-generals and two colonels. Since the Ministry of Health was stating that 149 civilians had been killed, I would assume that these 43 are on top of the 149, but further reports may change that.
'Habiba please reassure me. Please my darling, I'm worried sick' Heartbreaking final text messages sent by mother to reporter, 26, killed during Cairo massacre which left at least 421 dead
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2392992/Egypt-protests-Horrifying-moment-Egyptian-protestors-push-armoured-police-van-50ft-Cairo-bridge-officers-stoned-mob.html#ixzz2c27jplgd
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Pretty good wrap up with lots of pictures.
Go Devil
08-15-2013, 05:10
What a wonderful Arab Summer!
...can't wait for the Fall.
Egypt crisis: Defiant Muslim Brotherhood plans marches
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23721584
"The Egyptian capital Cairo is poised for renewed protests by supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi.
They are expected to take place two days after authorities broke up Muslim Brotherhood protest camps in Cairo with the loss of at least 638 lives.
Mr Morsi's supporters plan to converge on central Ramses Square from city mosques after Friday prayers. .................."
Egypt's tourism faces meltdown as security fears mount
http://www.france24.com/en/20130816-egypts-tourism-faces-meltdown-security-fears-mount
"AFP - Egypt's tourist industry was facing meltdown on Friday as foreign governments warned their citizens to stay away and told visitors already there to remain in their hotels.
Fears of nationwide unrest in the wake of a violent crackdown by the military-backed interim government earlier this week have resulted in a string of countries issuing official advice against all but essential travel to Egypt..............."
Reading the article just between Russia, England and Italy there's 109,000 tourists in Egypt - mostly in the resorts off to the SE.
Team Sergeant
08-16-2013, 13:40
I say we remain neutral and furnish both sides with one million AK's and 100,000,000 rounds of ammunition each ...:munchin
Badger52
08-16-2013, 15:28
This is what it looks like just before the Muslim Brotherhood jumps you... (http://animalnewyork.com/2013/this-is-what-it-looks-like-just-before-the-muslim-brotherhood-jumps-you/)
Trying to make that Top-25 Neighborhoods list I'll betcha...
:munchin
This is what it looks like just before the Muslim Brotherhood jumps you... (http://animalnewyork.com/2013/this-is-what-it-looks-like-just-before-the-muslim-brotherhood-jumps-you/)
Trying to make that Top-25 Neighborhoods list I'll betcha...
:munchin
More like trying to make the Top-25 Darwin Awards!
The Reaper
08-16-2013, 17:56
I say we remain neutral and furnish both sides with one million AK's and 100,000,000 rounds of ammunition each ...:munchin
Concur.
And build a 12' chainlink fence with razor wire topping around the country. No gates.
Same deal for Syria.
TR
It now appears to be confirmed. :cool:
"The brother of a Ayman al-Zawahri, the veteran terrorist leader of al-Qaeda has been arrested according to Egyptian security forces.
A security official said that Mohammed al-Zawahri, leader of the ultraconservative Jihadi Salafist group, was detained at a checkpoint in Giza, the city across the Nile from Cairo."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396138/Egyptian-security-forces-arrest-brother-al-Qaedas-leader-Ayman-al-Zawahri.html
This is what it looks like just before the Muslim Brotherhood jumps you... (http://animalnewyork.com/2013/this-is-what-it-looks-like-just-before-the-muslim-brotherhood-jumps-you/)
Trying to make that Top-25 Neighborhoods list I'll betcha...
:munchin
Not a very rational crowd, that tourism is suffering over this mess should be no surprise to anyone.
Saudis Warn the West: We Won’t Forget Your Stance on Egypt
See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/saudis-warn-west-we-won-t-forget-your-stance-egypt#sthash.JTrH8VMa.dpuf
"(CNSNews.com) – In a blunt warning to countries critical of the Egyptian military crackdown and considering suspending aid, longstanding U.S. ally Saudi Arabia suggested that the decisions they make now will have long-term consequences for their relationships in the Arab and Muslim world.
Saudi Arabia has led the way in supporting the Egyptian military’s actions, first in removing the Muslim Brotherhood administration early last month and in its subsequent steps against supporters of the ousted Islamist president, Mohammed Morsi..........."
Badger52
08-21-2013, 09:44
Asked at a press briefing Monday whether the Obama administration thought Faisal was referring to the United States in his comments, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said she could not “speculate on that.”
“Obviously, every country makes their own decision about whether they’re going to continue to provide aid, what aid they will provide, and we’ve certainly seen that,” she said.
“We’ll make our own decisions here, based on our own national security interests, our own concerns about regional stability. And that review is ongoing.”The last seems to me a pretty well-crafted vanilla statement - plucked out of the pocket from time to time - and seems an effort to deflect Saudi Arabia basically calling us out for action (or inaction) vis a vis Syria. In this instance, however, it would seem Faisal got his answer. (Then again, this is more complicated than the professor and the Cambridge PD.) I wonder if anyone is reviewing events & advising based on another country from 60 years ago.