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This Poor Marine will never get his Dignity back.... Some one send in the Black Chinook for an extraction.
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Doing your duty covers a lot of ground.
Maybe we should say "Sucks to be you - but you did it with class".
Well done Marine
Doing your duty covers a lot of ground.
Maybe we should say "Sucks to be you - but you did it with class".
Well done Marine
I felt sorry for him but he did do his duty and with Class.
Already starting to make the rounds on the blogosphere.
Link with video .... http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/obama-calls-marines-to-duty-holding-umbrella-to-keep-him-dry/
Why is Obama framed by muslim flags?
This was a briefing with the Turkish PM
mark46th
05-16-2013, 16:49
Should have used a palm frond.
Should have used a palm frond.
lolol :D
Go Devil
05-16-2013, 17:07
"The Over Head Clap!"
"Start Position, Move!"
"In Cadence!"
"Exercise!"
"Wun!......two......tree!"
It was lawful order carried out with class, but I can't believe Obama and his handlers let this happen.
If I was a politician, I would get soaked to skin before I let a picture circulate with a umbrella over my head and a marine in full dress without one. Not out of any nobility of character, but just out of simple recognition of how the optics look.
Way to make the Marines look good and the Office of the President look small and petty.
I wonder what Field Manual has the manual of arms for the umbrella.
According to Marine Corps regulation MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations – chapter 3, a male Marine is not allowed to carry an umbrella while in uniform. Not even the President of the United States can request a Marine to carry an umbrella without the express consent of the Commandant of the Marine Corps, according the Marine Corps Manual. Section 2806 paragraph 2 of the Marine Corps Manual specifically states “The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations, published by the Commandant of the Marine Corps, shall be binding on all Marines. No officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter, or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”
http://k99.com/president-obama-forces-u-s-marines-to-break-their-own-code-by-holding-umbrellas-poll/
Here's a broader view of the event.
It started to rain while president Obama held an outdoor press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, so the president's Marine guards stepped up and held umbrellas.
http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-presidential-guard-holding-umbrella-2013-5#ixzz2TW3mYUYN
Presently the rain ended and Obama told the marines to stand down.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/16/marines-obama-washington-rain
Richard
ZonieDiver
05-16-2013, 23:17
According to Marine Corps regulation MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations – chapter 3, a male Marine is not allowed to carry an umbrella while in uniform. Not even the President of the United States can request a Marine to carry an umbrella without the express consent of the Commandant of the Marine Corps, according the Marine Corps Manual. Section 2806 paragraph 2 of the Marine Corps Manual specifically states “The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations, published by the Commandant of the Marine Corps, shall be binding on all Marines. No officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter, or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”
http://k99.com/president-obama-forces-u-s-marines-to-break-their-own-code-by-holding-umbrellas-poll/
Since when does the "Commander-in-Chief" fall under the Commandant of the Marine Corps in the chain of command?
I was wondering the logic on that myself, so I asked a Marine and he told me that the CoC is The President of the United States, The Commandant of the USMC, and then Jesus Christ. :)
Presently the rain ended and Obama told the marines to stand down.
...clearly the POTUS was correct in telling them to "stand down"
ddoering
05-17-2013, 05:29
He's had practice.....
MiTTMedic
05-17-2013, 06:26
"...they're going to look good standing next to us"
So much to say about that, but, well....It's not that they had to obey the order, but how the POTUS directed them
Badger52
05-17-2013, 06:42
Stuff happens; the Marines executed with class. The other party was made to look appropriately petty.
He's still the CinC.
No telling what was on the Marine's mind, but he did his duty with honor.
I had friends who had done tours in The Old Guard - I couldn't have done that job nor would I have wanted to do it.
Military District Washington was never anywhere on my "wish list"...although they tried to talk me into an assignment at Bolling one time but I did an intratheater transfer and remained in Europe.
Richard
uspsmark
05-17-2013, 07:34
Pretty much sums it up for me....
Pretty much sums it up for me....
Hunh.
Richard
uspsmark
05-17-2013, 09:30
Just an observation that BHO always thinks of himself first. Not saying that the Marines were an option specifically. 220 Marines couldn't protect the Embassy in Beirut in 1983. However, a stronger security contingent may have deterred the attackers from choosing such a soft target.
Not sure one can draw a straight line between the Marine presence at the airport in west Beirut and the U.S. Embassy in northeast Beirut along the corniche. The Marine contingent at the airfield was "show of force" - and the efficacy of that presence can still be debated. The protection of the embassy was in the hands of an 8 Marine MSG and their Gunny. When that panel truck went off, even if it had not been under the front overhang, the eastern access road was still only 25 feet from the edge of the embassy structure. it still would have been effective.
Regarding soft targets - there were only two U.S. targets in town - the embassy and the Marine presence at the airfield. Both were ultimately hit - and even then the embassy annex later that year. Our SF MTT was probably not regarded as "soft", but it would have been a hell of a good fire fight. We were quartered in the Cadmus hotel 4 blocks east of the embassy. A VBIED still would have blown that structure to pieces.
uspsmark
05-17-2013, 12:37
Not sure one can draw a straight line between the Marine presence at the airport in west Beirut and the U.S. Embassy in northeast Beirut along the corniche. The Marine contingent at the airfield was "show of force" - and the efficacy of that presence can still be debated. The protection of the embassy was in the hands of an 8 Marine MSG and their Gunny. When that panel truck went off, even if it had not been under the front overhang, the eastern access road was still only 25 feet from the edge of the embassy structure. it still would have been effective.
Regarding soft targets - there were only two U.S. targets in town - the embassy and the Marine presence at the airfield. Both were ultimately hit - and even then the embassy annex later that year. Our SF MTT was probably not regarded as "soft", but it would have been a hell of a good fire fight. We were quartered in the Cadmus hotel 4 blocks east of the embassy. A VBIED still would have blown that structure to pieces.
MFF, the "soft target" reference was to the facility in Benghazi. I'm familiar with Beirut, as I was a part of the Beirut Air Bridge when Ambassador Crocker was there. Former Ambassador Crocker made a statement on NPR after the Benghazi attack that Marines are stationed at every Embassy, but not at most consular offices due to manpower issues and such. I'm sure he knows better, because when he was Ambassador to Lebanon when I was there in 1991-1993 timeframe there were no Marines. Security forces were comprised of the Lebanese Armed Forces (outside of the compound) and Diplomatic Security Service folks inside. The compound came under rocket attack once that I know of and a truck full of explosives was found near one of our routes in and out of the compound. Those folks in the compound were at risk each and every day. I'm sure that the DSS security force could hold their own in a firefight just as the previous SF MTT could have. I agree though, that any truck bomb or concerted rocket attack, etc. could have easily destroyed the compound during the time I was there.
spherojon
05-17-2013, 12:38
Pretty much sums it up for me....
Yep...
Visited Arlington lately - seems as if the revisionist historians have been busy. :D :D
Richard
Horrible
05-25-2013, 03:43
How dare Obama do that! I bet Reagan would've nev--
Peregrino
05-25-2013, 08:35
How dare Obama do that! I bet Reagan would've nev--
Nice; I have to concede the point. Personally my outrage is WRT to the character of the men involved. As for the question - 3 out of 4 isn't bad when it comes to "worthy" of the perks. The Marine still gets kudos for professionalism.
Trapper John
05-25-2013, 08:54
Visited Arlington lately - seems as if the revisionist historians have been busy. :D :D
Richard
Now that's FUNNY :D Good one Richard! :lifter