View Full Version : WH Releases 100 Pages of emails and Notes Related to Benghazi
What took so long? :munchin
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/15/white-house-releases-100-pages-e-mails-notes-related-to-benghazi/
The White House is releasing 100 pages of e-mails and notes related to the Obama administration's response to the attack on a diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, last September.
The White House had until now declined to make the documents public and had let congressional investigators review the documents without making copies.
The documents describe how the administration developed "talking points" to describe what the administration wanted to discuss publicly immediately after the Sept. 11, 2012, attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
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What took so long? :munchin
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They had to make it up first.
I can't wait to see who wins the argument over "who" changed the talking points.
Snaquebite
05-15-2013, 17:09
Took time to figure out which 100 pages to release.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22258258/ex-diplomat-is-asked-to-answer-benghazi-questions#axzz2TP7BakWk
spherojon
05-15-2013, 20:41
I would like to hear Petraeus testimony. Weird how he some how got involved in a scandal and had to resign :rolleyes:
They had to make it up first.
Ben Rhodes put his pen to paper and created another work of fiction.
Interesting reading.
Richard
Browse administration emails on the talking points issue like an inbox - go to the interactive graphic and just click on an e-mail and read it.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/benghazi-messages-browse-administration-emails-inbox-153342167.html
Badger52
05-31-2013, 11:50
Interesting reading.
Richard
Browse administration emails on the talking points issue like an inbox - go to the interactive graphic and just click on an e-mail and read it.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/benghazi-messages-browse-administration-emails-inbox-153342167.htmlIndeed sir; you can watch it right before your eyes, from this to this to this.
An interesting read.
Dangerous Times: Benghazi Revealed Collusion with Al Qaida
By James Lewis
American Thinker
June 1, 2013
All scandals have layers of meaning. Watergate was about a second-rate burglary, but more importantly, it was about Richard M. Nixon's abuse of presidential power.
However, much of that message was ruined by the fact that Lyndon B. Johnson abused power as much as Nixon did. Because Nixon is still a convenient whipping boy for the left, we never hear about LBJ's sins.
Twenty years before Watergate, Nixon was engaged in a brutal battle with the Stalinist left of the 1950s. Watergate "gave the left a sword," as Nixon famously said. The Washington Post assaulted the Nixon presidency in collusion with Mark Felt (Deep Throat), who hated Nixon for passing him up for FBI director.
Watergate was therefore a major battle in the long war between the radical left and mainstream America.
Like Watergate, Benghazi has several layers. But the most revealing one is the active collusion between this administration and Al Qaida.
Al Qaida is a Saudi-inspired and Saudi-funded terror gang. Almost all of the terrorists on 9/11 were Saudis. Those facts are always covered up, but they are crucial to understanding the Jihad War.
In Benghazi we ran arms from Libya to Al Qaida rebels in Syria. The Saudis are funding that rebellion.
There's that Saudi link again.
In Egypt we backed the Muslim Brotherhood against Hosni Mubarak, who kept the peace treaty with Israel for 30 years. Thirty years of peace in the Middle East is a huge achievement. The Muslim Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat the peacemaker, one of the rare Arab moderates who saw the light. Today we are in league with those who assassinated Anwar Sadat. For shame.
Today Egypt is starving, and the people hate the new regime.
The Saudis are naturally on the side of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood because they share the Sunni war theology.
So the Saudis have won again, with Obama acting as their American errand boy.
In Libya, we again made common cause with Sunni radicals against Muammar Gadaffi, a real nutcase, but a man who was able to run Libya's tribal federation for years. Gadaffi had turned over his nuclear program to the George W. Bush Administration. We still betrayed him to support his enemies, and Libya is in a civil war even now.
Again, the Muslim radicals won.
The bottom line is that Obama has consistently supported the most radical Muslim elements in the Middle East.
But we never supported the young people of the democratic Green Revolution against the vicious mullah regime in Iran. When Obama first met Benyamin Netanyahu he acted like an abusive bully.
Obama only bows down to Third World reactionaries.
That is consistent with his extreme leftist ideology. It also fits the worldwide left-Muslim alliance that has made Israel and the U.S. the targets of the most vicious hate campaign since World War II. Check MEMRI.org if you doubt it.
Obama may not be committing technical treason.
But he is a revolutionary, and so are all his friends.
For people like him, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The war theology of Islam is therefore his friend.
The biggest danger revealed by Benghazi is Obama's ruthlessly radical policies and actions. He is a trickster. Everything he does aims to undermine the legitimacy of our institutions: DOJ, IRS, FBI, EPA, the Education Department and the rest. As long as Obama is president those agencies cannot be trusted.
Therefore the most dangerous meaning of Benghazi is its betrayal of our fundamental values and allegiances.
By now we should know who Obama really is. It is hard to face, because we want our presidents to represent American values. Obama does not believe in those values.
The most important fact Benghazi revealed is Obama's collusion with Al Qaida.
That is why it had to be covered up.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/dangerous_times_benghazi_revealed_collusion_with_a l_qaida.html#ixzz2V13ZQ8ZC
dollarbill
06-02-2013, 14:14
An interesting read.
Dangerous Times: Benghazi Revealed Collusion with Al Qaida
By James Lewis
American Thinker
June 1, 2013
All scandals have layers of meaning. Watergate was about a second-rate burglary, but more importantly, it was about Richard M. Nixon's abuse of presidential power.
However, much of that message was ruined by the fact that Lyndon B. Johnson abused power as much as Nixon did. Because Nixon is still a convenient whipping boy for the left, we never hear about LBJ's sins.
Twenty years before Watergate, Nixon was engaged in a brutal battle with the Stalinist left of the 1950s. Watergate "gave the left a sword," as Nixon famously said. The Washington Post assaulted the Nixon presidency in collusion with Mark Felt (Deep Throat), who hated Nixon for passing him up for FBI director.
Watergate was therefore a major battle in the long war between the radical left and mainstream America.
Like Watergate, Benghazi has several layers. But the most revealing one is the active collusion between this administration and Al Qaida.
Al Qaida is a Saudi-inspired and Saudi-funded terror gang. Almost all of the terrorists on 9/11 were Saudis. Those facts are always covered up, but they are crucial to understanding the Jihad War.
In Benghazi we ran arms from Libya to Al Qaida rebels in Syria. The Saudis are funding that rebellion.
There's that Saudi link again.
In Egypt we backed the Muslim Brotherhood against Hosni Mubarak, who kept the peace treaty with Israel for 30 years. Thirty years of peace in the Middle East is a huge achievement. The Muslim Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat the peacemaker, one of the rare Arab moderates who saw the light. Today we are in league with those who assassinated Anwar Sadat. For shame.
Today Egypt is starving, and the people hate the new regime.
The Saudis are naturally on the side of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood because they share the Sunni war theology.
So the Saudis have won again, with Obama acting as their American errand boy.
In Libya, we again made common cause with Sunni radicals against Muammar Gadaffi, a real nutcase, but a man who was able to run Libya's tribal federation for years. Gadaffi had turned over his nuclear program to the George W. Bush Administration. We still betrayed him to support his enemies, and Libya is in a civil war even now.
Again, the Muslim radicals won.
The bottom line is that Obama has consistently supported the most radical Muslim elements in the Middle East.
But we never supported the young people of the democratic Green Revolution against the vicious mullah regime in Iran. When Obama first met Benyamin Netanyahu he acted like an abusive bully.
Obama only bows down to Third World reactionaries.
That is consistent with his extreme leftist ideology. It also fits the worldwide left-Muslim alliance that has made Israel and the U.S. the targets of the most vicious hate campaign since World War II. Check MEMRI.org if you doubt it.
Obama may not be committing technical treason.
But he is a revolutionary, and so are all his friends.
For people like him, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The war theology of Islam is therefore his friend.
The biggest danger revealed by Benghazi is Obama's ruthlessly radical policies and actions. He is a trickster. Everything he does aims to undermine the legitimacy of our institutions: DOJ, IRS, FBI, EPA, the Education Department and the rest. As long as Obama is president those agencies cannot be trusted.
Therefore the most dangerous meaning of Benghazi is its betrayal of our fundamental values and allegiances.
By now we should know who Obama really is. It is hard to face, because we want our presidents to represent American values. Obama does not believe in those values.
The most important fact Benghazi revealed is Obama's collusion with Al Qaida.
That is why it had to be covered up.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/dangerous_times_benghazi_revealed_collusion_with_a l_qaida.html#ixzz2V13ZQ8ZC
Unfortunately you are 100% correct. I have always said, Obama is THE ultimate terrorist. He will destroy the USA from within and most Americans will never see it coming. The USA values, principles and everything we have fought for is in grave danger.
BrokenSwitch
06-02-2013, 14:21
Unfortunately you are 100% correct. I have always said, Obama is THE ultimate terrorist. He will destroy the USA from within and most Americans will never see it coming. The USA values, principles and everything we have fought for is in grave danger.
Not just Obama, but the people who put him in his position, and the people who enable him. Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and the many others like them are just as culpable. Granted, Obama appointed Brennan, Holder, Hagel and Hillary (and now Kerry), but the senate confirmed them. It's a shared responsibility.
Unfortunately you are 100% correct. I have always said, Obama is THE ultimate terrorist. He will destroy the USA from within and most Americans will never see it coming. The USA values, principles and everything we have fought for is in grave danger.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
~Marcus Tullius Cicero~
Surgicalcric
06-03-2013, 01:06
...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. -Declaration of Independence 1776
They will find themselves in a world of hurt before they find themselves at ease. It happened once and can again!
...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. -Declaration of Independence 1776
They will find themselves in a world of hurt before they find themselves at ease. It happened once and WILL again!
There, fixed it for ya. ;)
Since this thread has evolved from merely recognizing that the President was largely AWOL on the night of the Benghazi attack - as he subsequently pushed a false narrative (AKA a damn lie) about a YouTube video causing the attack...to recognizing that Barry and the Senate have put in place some very powerful enablers...
Maybe this is as good a place as any to touch on one of Barry's primary enablers...
They lied about Bengahzi, lied about ObamaCare, lied about the IRS, lied about Fast and Furious, lied about James Rosen and spying on journalists merely engaged in journalism...etc., etc., etc.,...if you're not disgusted you are not looking very hard.
Eric Holder's Long History Of Lying To Congress
Investors Business Daily
05/31/2013 07:09 PM ET
Scandal: Before he lied to Congress while under oath about what he knew about targeting reporters, he lied about Fast and Furious. As early as the New Black Panthers case, Eric Holder had a problem with the truth.
That the House Judiciary Committee is investigating whether Attorney General Eric Holder lied under oath during his May 15 testimony on Department of Justice (DOJ) surveillance of reporters comes as no surprise. People have forgotten about the New Black Panther case, perhaps the most clear-cut case of voter suppression and intimidation ever. On Election Day 2008, New Black Panther Party members in military garb were videotaped intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia polling place.
The slam-dunk prosecution of these thugs was dropped by Holder's Justice Department. When asked why, Holder, on March 1, 2011, testified before the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies that the "decisions made in the New Black Panther Party case were made by career attorneys in the department."
Holder lied, for the decisions were made by political appointees. J. Christian Adams, a former career DOJ attorney in the Voting Rights Section, testified before the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that it was Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli, an Obama political appointee, who overruled a unanimous recommendation for prosecution by Adams and his associates.
Documents obtained by Judicial Watch and a ruling by Judge Reggie B. Walton of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in response to a suit brought by the group show that "political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ's dismissal of claims in that case."
Fast forward to Fast and Furious, the Obama administration's program to "walk" guns across the border and into the hands of Mexican drug cartels in furtherance of its gun control agenda.
"When did you first know about the program officially I believe called Fast and Furious? To the best of your knowledge, what date?" House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa asked Holder in sworn testimony on May 3, 2011. "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks," was Holder's response.
Holder lied: A July 2010 memo shows Michael Walther, head of the National Drug Intelligence Center, told Holder that straw buyers in Fast and Furious "are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to the Mexican drug trafficking cartels."
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said other documents indicate Holder began receiving weekly briefings on the program from the National Drug Intelligence Center on or before that date.
In an exchange with Sen. Pat Leahy on Nov. 8, 2011, Holder admitted his May 3 testimony was inaccurate when he said he knew about Fast and Furious for a "few weeks." He later changed that to a "couple months."
But the memo from Walther referring to Fast and Furious in detail was sent directly to Holder on July 5, 2010 — not a "couple months" before he testified in May.
No surprise then on May 15, 2013, before the House Judiciary Committee, Holder lied when he said: "In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material, this is not something I've been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy."
He personally signed off on James Rosen's warrant. Holder's defenders say the statement is technically correct because he never meant to prosecute Rosen, only to find the leaker. If so, then he lied to a federal judge.
Similarly, Holder's testimony to the House Judiciary Committee that he had recused himself from the Associated Press leak investigation that led to the blanket seizure of call records is not backed up by a formal recusal letter, which is required under such circumstances.
So we have at least four counts of lying to Congress by the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.
When did the lies begin? Looks like right after he took the oath of his office.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/053113-658465-eric-holder-repeatedly-lied-to-congress.htm?p=full
Badger52
06-03-2013, 09:38
The danger has never been the inexperienced & disdainful single individual occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It's his crew; always has been.
The danger has never been the inexperienced & disdainful single individual occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It's his crew; always has been.
or...his "Posse"...same same...
dollarbill
06-04-2013, 01:20
or...his "Posse"...same same...
Nothing like surrounding yourself with people that can finish or cover up the job you started.
uspsmark
06-04-2013, 13:59
100 pages...really? The folks in DC can't even draft a bill that is only 100 pages!
100 pages...really? The folks in DC can't even draft a bill that is only 100 pages!
The rest of them are on those secret e-mail accounts the WH and it's minions are using to float around outside the law.
An interesting read from Judicial Watch - systematic failures in leadership resulting in the deaths of brave Americans - still no accountability.
What did Obama and Hillary know and when did they know it...
Report at link below:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/JWBenghaziAnnivRpt09Sep13.pdf
Judicial Watch Special Report: The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012
A Judicial Watch Special Report:
On The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012
Unanswered Questions and the Quest for Accountability
From the Obama Administration
September 9, 2013
UPDATED FROM JANUARY 2013
dollarbill
09-13-2013, 20:19
An interesting read from Judicial Watch - systematic failures in leadership resulting in the deaths of brave Americans - still no accountability.
What did Obama and Hillary know and when did they know it...
Report at link below:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/JWBenghaziAnnivRpt09Sep13.pdf
Judicial Watch Special Report: The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012
A Judicial Watch Special Report:
On The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012
Unanswered Questions and the Quest for Accountability
From the Obama Administration
September 9, 2013
UPDATED FROM JANUARY 2013
Excellent article, the part about hiring your enemies enemy for security, well it sounds exactly like what's happening now in Syria. For the life of me, I can't understand why O want to support those ass holes. I'm starting to think he's associated.
I've been wondering when some of these guys were going to come out of the closet. Guess they need to retire first.
The terrorists who attacked the U.S. consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi on September 11, 2012 used cell phones, seized from State Department personnel during the attacks, and U.S. spy agencies overheard them contacting more senior terrorist leaders to report on the success of the operation, multiple sources confirmed to Fox News.
The disclosure is important because it adds to the body of evidence establishing that senior U.S. officials in the Obama administration knew early on that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, and not a spontaneous protest over an anti-Islam video that had gone awry, as the administration claimed for several weeks after the attacks.
Eric Stahl, who recently retired as a major in the U.S. Air Force, served as commander and pilot of the C-17 aircraft that was used to transport the corpses of the four casualties from the Benghazi attacks – then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods – as well as the assault’s survivors from Tripoli to the safety of an American military base in Ramstein, Germany.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/11/cia-heard-benghazi-attackers-using-state-dept-cell-phones-to-call-terrorist/?intcmp=latestnews
Should get interesting if Trey starts to subpoena the guys on the ground, it'd be nice to hear from them.
Streck-Fu
06-28-2016, 08:14
The Majority Report is released today and it will highlight the significant differences between the administration's private and public communications. LINK (http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-benghazi-lie-in-black-and-white/article/2003058)
Secretary Clinton's Statements to Egyptian Prime Minister Kandil at 3:04 p.m 9/12/2011.:
"We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack – not a protest. . . . Based on the information we saw today we believe the group that claimed responsibility for this was affiliated with al Qaeda."
E-mail from State Department press officer in embassy in Tripoli, Libya:
"Colleagues, I mentioned to Andy this morning, and want to share with all of you, our view at Embassy Tripoli that we must be cautious in our local messaging with regard to the inflammatory film trailer, adapting it to Libyan conditions. . . . Relatively few [Facebook comments and tweets] have even mentioned the inflammatory video. So if we post messaging about the video specifically, we may draw unwanted attention to it. And it is becoming increasingly clear that the series of events in Benghazi was much more terrorist attack than a protest which escalated into violence. It is our opinion that in our messaging, we want to distinguish, not conflate, the events in other countries with this well-planned attack by militant extremists. I have discussed this with Charge Hicks and he shares PAS's view."
I have strong reservations about the Republicans and the Democrats each having a Benghazi website on government servers and using said websites to sling mud on the peoples' dime.
http://benghazi.house.gov/
http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/
I have strong reservations about the Republicans and the Democrats each having a Benghazi website on government servers and using said websites to sling mud on the peoples' dime.
http://benghazi.house.gov/
http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/
Great example of why folks benefit from shrinking BIG government - both sets of hogs !
Badger52
06-28-2016, 15:42
Even at 0300, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
C'mon Director Comey, where's that referral for indictment?
For the Dems a few of the inconvenient truths are that in the past year new interviewees (many) include SOCEUR (MG Repass, re CIF-related events) as well as the Commander of that CIF, the C-17 pilot, 1 of 2 Special Opns personnel who went to Benghazi from Tripoli... and the Hillarymail-Gate IT guy Pagliano (wonder if he took the 5th on this one too).
Love me some :munchin
frostfire
10-17-2017, 21:31
future jihadis will see just how our court system works for or against them...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/libyan-is-first-witness-to-directly-implicate-benghazi-suspect-at-trial-in-washington/2017/10/14/290db8cc-b03c-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.6a253bc1b8ff
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-benghazi-trial-20171002-story.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-benghazi/cia-official-tells-jury-about-day-all-hell-broke-loose-in-benghazi-idUSKBN1CF2H1
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/02/5-things-know-benghazi-terror-suspect-khatallah-heads-trial-d-c-court/712401001/
More and more the 'deep state' from progressive agenda!
https://aclj.org/government-corruption/the-aclj-takes-on-the-deep-state