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ddoering
05-13-2013, 18:58
I think this story will go farther than Benghazi and the IRS scandal combined:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news.

The records obtained by the Justice Department listed outgoing calls for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, for general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and for the main number for the AP in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP. It was not clear if the records also included incoming calls or the duration of the calls.

In all, the government seized the records for more than 20 separate telephone lines assigned to AP and its journalists in April and May of 2012. The exact number of journalists who used the phone lines during that period is unknown, but more than 100 journalists work in the offices where phone records were targeted, on a wide array of stories about government and other matters.

In a letter of protest sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, AP President and Chief Executive Officer Gary Pruitt said the government sought and obtained information far beyond anything that could be justified by any specific investigation. He demanded the return of the phone records and destruction of all copies.

"There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP's newsgathering operations and disclose information about AP's activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know," Pruitt said.

The government would not say why it sought the records. Officials have previously said in public testimony that the U.S. attorney in Washington is conducting a criminal investigation into who may have provided information contained in a May 7, 2012, AP story about a foiled terror plot. The story disclosed details of a CIA operation in Yemen that stopped an al-Qaida plot in the spring of 2012 to detonate a bomb on an airplane bound for the United States.

In testimony in February, CIA Director John Brennan noted that the FBI had questioned him about whether he was AP's source, which he denied. He called the release of the information to the media about the terror plot an "unauthorized and dangerous disclosure of classified information."

Prosecutors have sought phone records from reporters before, but the seizure of records from such a wide array of AP offices, including general AP switchboards numbers and an office-wide shared fax line, is unusual.

In the letter notifying the AP, which was received Friday, the Justice Department offered no explanation for the seizure, according to Pruitt's letter and attorneys for the AP. The records were presumably obtained from phone companies earlier this year although the government letter did not explain that. None of the information provided by the government to the AP suggested the actual phone conversations were monitored.

Among those whose phone numbers were obtained were five reporters and an editor who were involved in the May 7, 2012, story.

The Obama administration has aggressively investigated disclosures of classified information to the media and has brought six cases against people suspected of providing classified information, more than under all previous presidents combined.

The White House on Monday said that other than press reports it had no knowledge of Justice Department attempts to seek AP phone records.

"We are not involved in decisions made in connection with criminal investigations, as those matters are handled independently by the Justice Department," spokesman Jay Carney said.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the investigative House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said on CNN, "They had an obligation to look for every other way to get it before they intruded on the freedom of the press."

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in an emailed statement: "The burden is always on the government when they go after private information, especially information regarding the press or its confidential sources. ... On the face of it, I am concerned that the government may not have met that burden. I am very troubled by these allegations and want to hear the government's explanation."

The American Civil Liberties Union said the use of subpoenas for a broad swath of records has a chilling effect both on journalists and whistleblowers who want to reveal government wrongdoing. "The attorney general must explain the Justice Department's actions to the public so that we can make sure this kind of press intimidation does not happen again," said Laura Murphy, the director of ACLU's Washington legislative office.

Rules published by the Justice Department require that subpoenas of records of news organizations must be personally approved by the attorney general, but it was not known if that happened in this case. The letter notifying AP that its phone records had been obtained through subpoenas was sent Friday by Ronald Machen, the U.S. attorney in Washington.

William Miller, a spokesman for Machen, said Monday that in general the U.S. attorney follows "all applicable laws, federal regulations and Department of Justice policies when issuing subpoenas for phone records of media organizations." But he would not address questions about the specifics of the AP records. "We do not comment on ongoing criminal investigations," Miller said in an email.

The Justice Department lays out strict rules for efforts to get phone records from news organizations. A subpoena can be considered only after "all reasonable attempts" have been made to get the same information from other sources, the rules say. It was unclear what other steps, in total, the Justice Department might have taken to get information in the case.

A subpoena to the media must be "as narrowly drawn as possible" and "should be directed at relevant information regarding a limited subject matter and should cover a reasonably limited time period," according to the rules.

The reason for these constraints, the department says, is to avoid actions that "might impair the news gathering function" because the government recognizes that "freedom of the press can be no broader than the freedom of reporters to investigate and report the news."

News organizations normally are notified in advance that the government wants phone records and then they enter into negotiations over the desired information. In this case, however, the government, in its letter to the AP, cited an exemption to those rules that holds that prior notification can be waived if such notice, in the exemption's wording, might "pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation."

It is unknown whether a judge or a grand jury signed off on the subpoenas.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20130513/US--AP.Phone.Records-Subpoena/



The press has given them a free ride for five years and will feel a sense of betrayal.

Trapper John
05-13-2013, 19:39
I agree. These are all coalescing to a point of the nightmare scenario for O. I think a pattern is emerging that even the dimmest of Dems will not be able to avoid. I only hope that the Republican leadership will take the high road and not allow themselves to be seen as playing petty politics. That is the attack tactic that is emerging from the WH. If the Repub leadership is smart (???) this can be played to backfire on O.

Going to be very, very interesting. :lifter

Joker
05-13-2013, 19:41
I truly distrust the slime-ball press, but that pales in comparison to my contempt for Holder and 0.

cbtengr
05-13-2013, 20:04
This too, was no doubt perpetrated by some low level Justice Department employees.

Pete
05-13-2013, 20:10
This too, was no doubt perpetrated by some low level Justice Department employees.

Without names of course.

Box
05-13-2013, 21:26
I would like to use the term "Tabloid Government" to describe the quality of government that we are currently paying for.

The Weekly World News and National Enquirer are news papers...
...tabloid news papers, but news papers just the same. 'USA Today' reports on money matters, the tabloids report on the location of the Leprechauns gold. 'Time Magazine' runs a story on breakthrough cancer research, the tabloids run a story on Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced boy.

...welcome to the tabloid government of the USA
The current government (all three branches) of the USA has become little more than the tabloid version of national leadership. Selling guns to Mexican drug runners, providing fighter jets for the Muslim brotherhood, sicking the IRS on American citizens, and now it seems the government has even challenged the media to a dick measuring contest by giving the AP a lesson in what its like to be on the wrong side of the tabloid government.

Well, it is my pleasure to welcome the AP to the party. The rest of us have been paying close attention to our esteemed leaders in Washington for the last five or ten years while the media was busy pretending to be intellectually gifted, using big words, and sniffing each others crotches; well its good to see that at least the AP has finally noticed that something is going on in D.C. that just don't quite seem right. I wonder if the AP is going to do anything more than just puff out their bottom lip and pout...

mconneway
05-14-2013, 06:06
Illegal wiretapping, and using the IRS to target the opposition? I think I've heard this song before....

MiTTMedic
05-14-2013, 06:31
For those of you TRYING to keep track, we have concurrently running investigations on:

What the Govt. knew about the Boston Bombers
Benghazi
H&HS Sebellius (sp) fundraising
IRS and those terrible leftist groups
AP and the DOJ
I keep hearing about F & F, but unsure about any investigations currently.

I think all of the above had the POTUS claiming "Huh? Really? Haven't heard anything about it"

If a Flag Officer had his underlings behaving like this, they would point at the obvious leadership failure and fire them.

Just a matter of time before someone being "held accountable" busts loose on Barry.

Team Sergeant
05-14-2013, 11:47
Well, it is my pleasure to welcome the AP to the party. The rest of us have been paying close attention to our esteemed leaders in Washington for the last five or ten years while the media was busy pretending to be intellectually gifted, using big words, and sniffing each others crotches; well its good to see that at least the AP has finally noticed that something is going on in D.C. that just don't quite seem right. I wonder if the AP is going to do anything more than just puff out their bottom lip and pout...

LOLOLOLOL I could not have said it better!

And I wonder how many "other" news outlets had their phones tapped also.....:munchin

orion5
05-14-2013, 11:53
I would like to use the term "Tabloid Government" to describe the quality of government that we are currently paying for.

The Weekly World News and National Enquirer are news papers...
...tabloid news papers, but news papers just the same. 'USA Today' reports on money matters, the tabloids report on the location of the Leprechauns gold. 'Time Magazine' runs a story on breakthrough cancer research, the tabloids run a story on Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced boy.

...welcome to the tabloid government of the USA
The current government (all three branches) of the USA has become little more than the tabloid version of national leadership. Selling guns to Mexican drug runners, providing fighter jets for the Muslim brotherhood, sicking the IRS on American citizens, and now it seems the government has even challenged the media to a dick measuring contest by giving the AP a lesson in what its like to be on the wrong side of the tabloid government.

Well, it is my pleasure to welcome the AP to the party. The rest of us have been paying close attention to our esteemed leaders in Washington for the last five or ten years while the media was busy pretending to be intellectually gifted, using big words, and sniffing each others crotches; well its good to see that at least the AP has finally noticed that something is going on in D.C. that just don't quite seem right. I wonder if the AP is going to do anything more than just puff out their bottom lip and pout...

Your posts are so ridiculously hilarious. But this one is too depressing. You nailed it.

Billy, after "Tabloid Government" I am thinking the next phase will be "Japanese Game Show Government". As government officials make ludicrous decisions, we get to see them fall through trap doors and get slimed or broken teeth.

Roguish Lawyer
05-14-2013, 13:10
Can you imagine what the media would be doing if this was done by a Republican President?

echoes
05-14-2013, 13:15
I truly distrust the slime-ball press, but that pales in comparison to my contempt for Holder and 0.

Such slime-bag-ness...Honestly agree with a commentary heard today that this is playing out like a Circus, and the big O like PT Barnum...juggling plates as smoke and mirrors, so they think no one will see what is behind the White Tent!:mad:

WIth three scandals rocking their little made up pretend we-did-nothing-wrong-world, maybe the light is about to shine on all this darkness!!!

(Just listeneing to the mother of one of the SEAL's killed in Benghazi this morning on foxnews...I cannot even imagine...)

Holly

Trapper John
05-14-2013, 13:19
I would like to use the term "Tabloid Government" to describe the quality of government that we are currently paying for.

The Weekly World News and National Enquirer are news papers...
...tabloid news papers, but news papers just the same. 'USA Today' reports on money matters, the tabloids report on the location of the Leprechauns gold. 'Time Magazine' runs a story on breakthrough cancer research, the tabloids run a story on Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced boy.

...welcome to the tabloid government of the USA
The current government (all three branches) of the USA has become little more than the tabloid version of national leadership. Selling guns to Mexican drug runners, providing fighter jets for the Muslim brotherhood, sicking the IRS on American citizens, and now it seems the government has even challenged the media to a dick measuring contest by giving the AP a lesson in what its like to be on the wrong side of the tabloid government.

Well, it is my pleasure to welcome the AP to the party. The rest of us have been paying close attention to our esteemed leaders in Washington for the last five or ten years while the media was busy pretending to be intellectually gifted, using big words, and sniffing each others crotches; well its good to see that at least the AP has finally noticed that something is going on in D.C. that just don't quite seem right. I wonder if the AP is going to do anything more than just puff out their bottom lip and pout...

You have nailed it Bro :lifter :lifter :lifter