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Team Sergeant
04-29-2013, 17:54
I'm Shocked I tell you, just shocked!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: Why don't we just hand Barry the U.S. Constitution and let him rip it up and wipe his ass with it. America the Stupid.
Obama administration officials threatened whistle-blowers on Benghazi, lawyer says.
By James RosenPublished April 29, 2013FoxNews.com
At least four career officials at the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency have retained lawyers or are in the process of doing so, as they prepare to provide sensitive information about the Benghazi attacks to Congress, Fox News has learned.
Victoria Toensing, a former Justice Department official and Republican counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee, is now representing one of the State Department employees. She told Fox News her client and some of the others, who consider themselves whistle-blowers, have been threatened by unnamed Obama administration officials.
“I'm not talking generally, I'm talking specifically about Benghazi – that people have been threatened,” Toensing said in an interview Monday. “And not just the State Department. People have been threatened at the CIA.”
Toensing declined to name her client. She also refused to say whether the individual was on the ground in Benghazi on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, when terrorist attacks on two U.S. installations in the Libyan city killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.
However, Toensing disclosed that her client has pertinent information on all three time periods investigators consider relevant to the attacks: the months that led up to the attack, when pleas by the ambassador and his staff for enhanced security in Benghazi were mostly rejected by senior officers at the State Department; the eight-hour time frame in which the attacks unfolded, and the eight-day period that followed the attacks, when Obama administration officials incorrectly described them as the result of a spontaneous protest over a video.
“It's frightening, and they're doing some very despicable threats to people,” she said. “Not ‘we're going to kill you,’ or not ‘we're going to prosecute you tomorrow,’ but they're taking career people and making them well aware that their careers will be over [if they cooperate with congressional investigators].”
Federal law provides explicit protections for federal government employees who are identified as “whistle-blowers.” The laws aim to ensure these individuals will not face repercussions from their superiors, or from other quarters, in retaliation for their provision of information about corruption or other forms of wrongdoing to Congress, or to an agency’s inspector-general.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/29/obama-administration-officials-have-threatened-whistle-blowers-on-benghazi/#ixzz2RtpQv854
Source: Military Forces Could Have Responded to Benghazi Attack in Time
Fox
Adam Housley
April 29, 2013
"Because the special operator in the video above is fearful of reprisal, his identity was concealed. The man, who watched the events unfold and has debriefed those who were part of the response, told Fox News’ Adam Housley that the C110 special forces group “was doing a training exercise not in the region of Northern Africa but in Europe. And they had the ability to react and respond.”
http://nation.foxnews.com/benghazi-attacks/2013/04/29/source-military-forces-could-have-responded-benghazi-attack-time
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2338534550001/special-operator-claims-us-could-have-intervened-in-benghazi/
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This is total HORSE SHIT!
Whose got money on the "What difference does it make" Bitch running for president in 2016!
I saw that video as well. I certainly understand his apprehension, with what we have in the WH and at the top of the CIA. There is no doubt whatsoever that this was a betrayal, not just of the people at the "mission" property; but specifically of Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty - who saved those people from being killed or taken as hostages by the muzzies (with all that that entails - think Beslan, on a smaller scale of course).
I would very much like for the truth about Benghazi to come out. From what I was able to ascertain, roadblocks were going up in the streets around the "mission" property long before the attack. Stevens was supposedly meeting w/a Turkish minister just before the attack. That Turkish minister had been allowed to pass through the roadblocks w/no problem. Then all hell broke loose.
And why, after this fiasco, did Gen. Ham find it necessary to "retire"? Something really stinks here. And a number of people have the blood of Stevens, his aide and Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty on their hands. Guess that's what happens when you have "security" provided by Ansar al-Sharia.
...and somehow, 51 percent of the American voting public finds all of this circus-like behavior perfectly acceptable
...and somehow, 51 percent of the American voting public finds all of this circus-like behavior perfectly acceptable
Coincidentally, that's same percentage who are devoted Honey Boo Boo fans.
Trapper John
04-30-2013, 09:25
Coincidentally, that's same percentage who are devoted Honey Boo Boo fans.
Damn, and my day was going so well 'til I read that, Bro. I can't believe that shit is even aired. Isn't there a rating system for Stupid, Really Stupid, and F'n Obnoxiously Stupid? Aaargh!
steel_eel
04-30-2013, 09:34
The Prez "hadn't heard" of these threats and he will "look into it"...
:rolleyes:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/30/obama-pledges-inquiry-on-benghazi-survivors-testimony/
President Obama said he is unaware of longstanding efforts by Republican lawmakers to question survivors of the Benghazi attacks but pledged to investigate it.
“I’m not familiar with this notion that anybody has been blocked from testifying,” the president said during a White House news conference on Tuesday. “So what I’ll do is I will find out what exactly you’re referring to.”
Obama’s pledge to find out more came as officials at the State Department pushed back against allegations -- first aired Monday on Fox News -- that career employees at the agency have been threatened if they furnish new information about the Benghazi attacks to members of Congress.
“The State Department is deeply committed to meeting its obligation to protect employees, and the State Department would never tolerate -- tolerate or sanction -- retaliation against whistle-blowers on any issue, including this one,” spokesman Patrick Ventrell told reporters at a briefing on Tuesday. “That’s an obligation we take very seriously -- full stop.” (New catchy buzzphraze.)
Four Americans, including U.S. ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, were killed in terrorist attacks on U.S. installations in the port city of Benghazi, Libya on the night of Sept. 11, 2012. While the FBI investigation into the attacks continues, no known instances of any perpetrators being brought to justice have yet been reported.
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, will hold the first in a new round of hearings on the subject on May 8.
In two letters to the State Department, dated April 16 and April 26, Issa has sought explicit guidance on how attorneys representing witnesses with knowledge of the Benghazi attacks, including their prelude and aftermath, can receive the security clearances necessary to review classified materials.
“Attorneys representing Department personnel in this matter will require clearance to possess and discuss Top Secret and Sensitive Compartmented Information,” Issa wrote on April 16 to Mary McLeod, the principal deputy legal adviser to the State Department.
But Ventrell insisted Tuesday that no such whistle-blowers have come forward, and no requests for security clearances have been made by private attorneys.
Victoria Toensing, a former Justice Department official and onetime Republican counsel to the Senate intelligence committee, disclosed on Monday that she is representing a career State Department official who identifies himself as a whistle-blower. Toensing said this individual has been threatened by superiors with career-ending reprisals if he cooperates with the oversight committee.
“[The State Department has] had two letters from Chairman Issa, one on April 16th, the other one April 26th, that specifically say, ‘We want you to provide a process for clearing a lawyer to receive classified information,’” Toensing said during an interview Tuesday on “America’s Newsroom” with Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum. “How can they possibly get up there and just lie to the press corps?”
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Stargazer
05-02-2013, 07:13
:mad:
Whistle-blower on camera states that Special Operations put out the call for help multiple times and no response?!?!!
Who can tell for sure. I think Jay Carney hit the nail on the head...
“Benghazi happened a long time ago.”
...besides, the SECDEF and DCIA have both been replaced. What more can we ask for!
Detonics
05-04-2013, 19:02
This may prove to be interesting if verified. I mean even Al Gore said he'd "fire anyone who lied to the American public." ;)
"As intelligence officials pieced together the puzzle of events unfolding in Libya, they concluded even before the assaults had ended that al Qaeda-linked terrorists were involved. Senior administration officials, however, sought to obscure the emerging picture and downplay the significance of attacks that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.
The frantic process that produced the changes to the talking points took place over a 24-hour period just one day before Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, made her now-famous appearances on the Sunday television talk shows. The discussions involved senior officials from the State Department, the National Security Council, the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the White House."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/benghazi-talking-points_720543.html
I'm going to wait and see if this is accurate info and if so, start ringing some phones off the hook for an Independent Counsel inquiry.
The frantic process that produced the changes to the talking points took place over a 24-hour period just one day before Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, made her now-famous appearances on the Sunday television talk shows. The discussions involved senior officials from the State Department, the National Security Council, the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the White House."
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Reminds me of Watergate, difference being the perspective of the press.
Badger52
05-05-2013, 06:16
But Ventrell insisted Tuesday that no such whistle-blowers have come forward, and no requests for security clearances have been made by private attorneys.
From the story:
Appearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will be three career State Department officials: Gregory N. Hicks, the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya at the time of the Benghazi terrorist attacks; Mark I. Thompson, a former Marine and now the deputy coordinator for Operations in the agency’s Counterterrorism Bureau; and Eric Nordstrom, a diplomatic security officer who was the regional security officer in Libya, the top security officer in the country in the months leading up to the attacks.
Full story here. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/04/benghazi-names-whistleblower-witnesses-revealed/?test=latestnews)
For what it's worth having seen a fair portion of the email trail back & forth from much-maligned Eric Nordstrom to the mother ship this doesn't bode well for the "what does it matter?" crowd. The deputies of mission and CT Opns don't either.
Then again, Congress did such a fine job effecting change with Fast & Furious. Anyone contemplated to be tossed under the bus has probably already left or is packing.
Then again, Congress did such a fine job effecting change with Fast & Furious. Anyone contemplated to be tossed under the bus has probably already left or is packing.
The Teflon's wearing thin.
Goggles Pizano
05-05-2013, 10:50
Isn't there a rating system for Stupid, Really Stupid, and F'n Obnoxiously Stupid? Aaargh!
The "change channel", and "mute" buttons serve me well. Off button works nicely too! :D
ECUPirate09
05-08-2013, 10:03
Friend said they were on Fox News, I'm watching on C-span.org.
In case anyone was interested.
Badger52
05-08-2013, 12:26
Prediction: With the focus on during and post- attack, some folks are really gonna be unhappy when Eric Nordstrom's testimony gets on the record.
Trapper John
05-08-2013, 13:11
Prediction: With the focus on during and post- attack, some folks are really gonna be unhappy when Eric Nordstrom's testimony gets on the record.
Note to Jay Carney: Guess this isn't such "old news" anymore is it, Bucko? :D
dollarbill
05-08-2013, 14:35
Reminds me of Watergate, difference being the perspective of the press.
I concur, if the whole truth should ever come out, this may go down in history as the biggest scandal ever.
...it would be nice to get an answer to the question: "What difference at this point does it make"
I got this pic from my sister yesterday and thought it was fitting for what is going on right now in regards to the Benghazi hearings. Show the hypocrisy in Clinton and all those that think Benghazi isn't important. Nothing to see here, move along. Utterly pathetic!
Mack
ddoering
05-10-2013, 07:33
...it would be nice to get an answer to the question: "What difference at this point does it make"
Maybe that will be her campaign slogan in 2016.
Maybe that will be her campaign slogan in 2016.
lol You're on a roll this morning, Bro. :D
thats an awesome picture comparison, but Watergate was a long time ago...
...and it was republicans not democrats
thats an awesome picture comparison, but Watergate was a long time ago...
...and it was republicans not democrats
Good point.
The MSM will have to be convinced that there's no way to keep covering up and spinning for the the dems before they jump on it. I'm hoping ABC has already reached that point.
You're right, it was a long time ago, but the fact that she was questioning a Republican President then about something that only involved burglary, not a diplomat getting killed, but now doesn't see "what the point is" when it is a Democratic President is where the hypocrisy lies.
I agree, I hope the MSM realizes that they can't ignore this anymore, and tries to get to the bottom of this.
Team Sergeant
05-10-2013, 11:53
I agree, I hope the MSM realizes that they can't ignore this anymore, and tries to get to the bottom of this.
The MSM will ignore any stories of the ultra left until it's too late. What I mean by too late is when the socialist actually vote themselves control of the MSM. 11 million future democrats are waiting to know if and when they will have voting rights, NY is also about to allow illegals the "right" to vote.
Those that don't see this train wreak in the making are the same ones that didn't see the housing market collapse coming and the havoc it had on the economy.
The housing market collapse was perpetrated by democrats and that ruined the economy for years, this takeover by the left will destroy the nation.
Sure let's give 11-20 million illegal's voting rights, what could go wrong?
Stargazer
05-10-2013, 13:01
11 million future democrats are waiting to know if and when they will have voting rights, NY is also about to allow illegals the "right" to vote.
Sure let's give 11-20 million illegal's voting rights, what could go wrong?
I heard the same thing with respect to NY allowing illegals to vote in local elections. Didn't realize that some cities in MD already do... guess, I shouldn't be surprised. Truly a sad state of affairs.
People need to READ the proposed reform and ask how will these changes solve the problem. What is the bottomline financial impact to the country and the workforce. Many of the proposed solutions are already in place but not enforced. Also, the Secretary of DHS is given way too much latitude. To give more power to an individual in charge of HOMELAND who releases illegal criminals back into the American landscape prior to sequestration cuts, in my view is stupid on top of stupid.
With regard to Benghazi. Justice will not be served if left up to the politicians. We truly need more individuals to step forward who can dispel mistruths. I am grateful for the duty, honor and courage shown by Mr. Thompson, Mr. Hicks and Mr. Nordstrom.
What is even worse than illegal aliens voting, dead people voting, dogs voting, cats voting, individual voters voting numerous times is the suppression of the military vote. That has been a problem for quite a few years; however, these last 2 elections were probably the most egregious.
Of course, I'm sure that I'm not telling you anything you don't already know!
Badger52
05-10-2013, 14:57
The MSM will ignore any stories of the ultra left until it's too late. What I mean by too late is when the socialist actually vote themselves control of the MSM.And when they finally get what they think they want, they will find out how expendable they are. Getting political "religion" at that point will be cause for rehabilitation in some form. See how they like the term "intellectual."
medic&commo
05-10-2013, 15:06
thats an awesome picture comparison, but Watergate was a long time ago...
...and it was republicans not democrats
That's it exactly!
All depends on what on your perspective, whether something is an offense or not.
m&c
dollarbill
05-10-2013, 16:04
I got this pic from my sister yesterday and thought it was fitting for what is going on right now in regards to the Benghazi hearings. Show the hypocrisy in Clinton and all those that think Benghazi isn't important. Nothing to see here, move along. Utterly pathetic!
Mack
Hillary's,"What diffreance does it make." Sounded a lot like Bill's,"I didn't have sex with her." The same enthusiastic, rehersed demenor.
Ret10Echo
09-11-2020, 17:37
Bump...
On Sept. 11, 2012, a mob armed with guns and grenades launched a fiery nightlong attack on a U.S. diplomatic outpost and a CIA annex in Libya.
<<nameless>> DEMOCRAT was POTUS
Joe Biden DEMOCRAT was VP
Hillary Klingon DEMOCRAT (so-called) S-o-S
California Attorney General Kamala Harris DEMOCRAT addresses the Democratic National Convention renominating <<nameless>>
Yeah... these A$#Hats are going to keep you safe and America strong.
In light of all the hullabaloo over Bill Clintons wife using a private email server, there have been quite a bit of unsurprising truths surfacing that just prove all along that pretty much everything left of center is treasonous (as well as quite a few RINO's that sit on the right side of the aisle simply because their constituents demand them to for the optics) - this recent screengrab was released that shows what has popped up on Secretary Clintons computer screen every time it boots up since her handling of Benghazi..........
..........then she goes back in her attic to feed her bats.
WarriorDiplomat
10-12-2020, 15:13
Well the Chinese started this under Billy C which allowed them direct access to our economy and real estate....followed by technology and blatant theft of intellectual property and we buy it cause its cheap we cant compete......unions are a favorite of Dims who ironically drive labor cost through the roof, inflation....which drives companies overseas.....ironic?
The U.S. funded 10x the Chinese have to the WHO but China hss the influence?? Russia sales gas to Germany then wants the U.S. to carry the biggest burden of the EU's finanial burden of security? Keep americans ignorant and rape our country.
Was Obamas 2nd term damage to our military pre planned? Like I said females caused the military to inward face with no outward facing security...accidental consequence? hardly ...the Chinese should have been in Canada with HRC as POTUS. Well now we have the Covid smoke maneuver accomplishing the same thing.....the media is keeping busy americans deaf and dumb.
What would be justice if we fall is all the leftist who sre trying to usher in globalism get thrown in prisons by the Chinese as untrustworthy...they were disloyal to their own nation therefore a character flaw the Chinese see as undesirable.
Crimea, Iraq re engagement, Iranian cash, Syria, Egypt and Libya is why Obama got the peace prize????
bblhead672
10-14-2020, 14:59
Well the Chinese started this under Billy C which allowed them direct access to our economy and real estate....followed by technology and blatant theft of intellectual property and we buy it cause its cheap we cant compete......unions are a favorite of Dims who ironically drive labor cost through the roof, inflation....which drives companies overseas.....ironic?
The U.S. funded 10x the Chinese have to the WHO but China hss the influence?? Russia sales gas to Germany then wants the U.S. to carry the biggest burden of the EU's finanial burden of security? Keep americans ignorant and rape our country.
Was Obamas 2nd term damage to our military pre planned? Like I said females caused the military to inward face with no outward facing security...accidental consequence? hardly ...the Chinese should have been in Canada with HRC as POTUS. Well now we have the Covid smoke maneuver accomplishing the same thing.....the media is keeping busy americans deaf and dumb.
What would be justice if we fall is all the leftist who sre trying to usher in globalism get thrown in prisons by the Chinese as untrustworthy...they were disloyal to their own nation therefore a character flaw the Chinese see as undesirable.
Crimea, Iraq re engagement, Iranian cash, Syria, Egypt and Libya is why Obama got the peace prize????
The Chinese started it with Billy C when he was governor of Arkansas.