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hoot72
11-02-2004, 06:37
After on and off research on JK Idema, I ran into some very interesting interviews and updates on this chap. I shall share them with you as alot of it has to do with Robin Moore's TDF novel and Tiger 02.

"Robin Moore, the bard of the Green Berets, arrived in Afghanistan in December, and Idema wasted little time in tracking him down and nominating himself as a source for Moore’s new book, to be titled The Hunt for Bin Laden. Moore—in his seventies, and debilitated by Parkinson’s disease, moving slowly across Afghan war zones with the aid of a cane—was shadowing a group of Special Forces called A-Team Tiger 02, which was preparing to seize the Taliban stronghold of Mazar-e-Sharif in concert with the Northern Alliance.


Moore and Idema didn’t spend much time in the field together—it behooved Idema to keep a low profile among active Special Forces, for obvious reasons. Instead, Idema focused on ingratiating himself to other reporters instead which led to the Skurka "rescue."

Idema had to return to the United States in June 2002, after his mother died in Poughkeepsie. It was then that he made his most fateful contact with Robin Moore, who was also Stateside, trying to work the manuscript for The Hunt for Bin Laden into shape for Random House. Moore interviewed Idema extensively for additional background, and says the information “checked out very well.” Moore’s writing assistant, Chris Thompson, says that Moore brought on Idema as a “technical adviser,” to help ensure the book’s accuracy.

Idema was turning up regularly, via satellite telephone, on American television. He would occasionally call himself a Green Beret, clearly implying he was on active duty. And sometimes he would claim, falsely, to be working for Partners International, which, like Knightsbridge, had severed all ties with Idema. Mainly, though, he characterized himself in tellingly vague terms, even as he boasted about his high-octane military credentials: “You must be held in high regard,” he told Fox News host Linda Vester via sat phone in November 2001. “Because I think you’re the only person ever to get an interview with a Special Forces–qualified guy inside this country.”

Moore’s agent at the time, Marianne Strong, gives a very different account. She claims that Moore “conceptualized” the book but that he and Thompson turned in a rambling, dull manuscript. “Jack came along and rewrote the entire thing,” Strong says. “He came up with terribly exciting, excellent copy.” Moore wound up contributing only “a few pages” to the finished product, she claims, and Thompson only edited.


One thing is certain: Regardless of who claims ultimate authorship of the book, The Hunt for Bin Laden teems with characterizations of Idema as a titanic military presence in the Afghan war. It asserts outright that Idema was the only Green Beret gathering intelligence on the ground.

“In January, Jack uncovered an al-Qaida plot to kill President Clinton. In March, standing in the middle of a Kabul street armed with a Russian assault rifle and six hundred rounds of ammunition, Jack held off Islamic fundamentalists for four hours as they tried to take eighteen foreign citizens hostage, keeping them at bay until Engineer Ali and the Northern Alliance arrived to back him up. By the end of March, Jack was in a Northern Alliance helicopter on his way to the Nahrin earthquake, where the Associated Press photographed the lone American rescuing a little girl. She wasn’t the first child he would save, or the last.”


How Idema became a virtual army of one in the pages of The Hunt for Bin Laden remains a hotly disputed subject. Strong says that the book’s portrait of him fully accords with her own impressions: “He is a wonderful man, very brave and charismatic.” Moore and Thompson, meanwhile, maintain that Idema overtook the narrative because Random House wanted it that way. The publishers “wanted an action hero in the book,” Thompson says, “so they asked us to thread Idema all the way through.” Moore says that it was also Random House’s decision to put Idema on the book’s cover.


The next promotional twist concerning The Hunt for Bin Laden was either poetic or perverse, depending on one’s view of the publishing world. Having at the very least finagled a portrait of himself as the prime mover in the Special Forces’ Afghan war, Idema now was tapped to stand in for the Parkinson’s-weakened Moore in bookstore readings and media appearances for the title. In each radio interview he gave, he was described—as he is in the book’s pages—as a Green Beret working as an adviser to the Northern Alliance. At times he was so bold as to offer policy advice to Pentagon brass. “We in Special Forces have been lobbying for a lighter, faster Army,” he lamented to an interviewer for Bend, Oregon’s Classic Rock 98.3. “But General [Tommy] Franks isn’t listening.”


Moore’s book—the first allegedly insider account of the Afghan war—rocketed up the best-seller lists. But early reviews were harsh, and some called the book’s reliability into question. Moore was troubled by the claims and asked some Special Forces officers to review it for corrections in later editions. He forwarded the proposed fixes to his editor, Bob Loomis, but the publishing house did not alter the text. Random House will not comment on why the book is not being revised, but spokeswoman Carol Schneider denies that the publisher insisted that Idema take center stage in the narrative. “It was not our intention to make [Idema] the main character,” Schneider says. “We didn’t even know who he was until Robin Moore introduced him to us.”

When Idema got wind of Moore’s efforts to change the text, he retaliated in what was becoming a reflexive fashion: He issued a press release and filed suit. The release declared that a shadowy group of Special Forces soldiers, jealous of the attention lavished on Idema, “allegedly threatened and coerced 77-year-old Robin Moore, who suffers from Parkinson’s disease, into submitting the changes to the already copyrighted bestseller.” Idema also sued the aid groups Knightsbridge and Partners International, claiming that they had also pressured Moore into changing The Hunt for Bin Laden. Idema initially alleged that the two aid groups had injured his reputation by causing Fox News to drop him as a regular commentator—but he was also suing Fox, on much the same grounds. Most of the suits were thrown out of court.


Moore and Thompson say they soon learned that they were victims of financial chicanery as well as what appeared to be an enormous media scam. The Hunt for Bin Laden contained an appendix encouraging readers to donate funds to assist Special Forces and their families and Afghan civilians. Moore says that Idema included an entry for the training camp he had founded in upstate New York, the US Counter-Terrorist Group. In the appendix, the group’s stated mission was “to help the Northern Alliance and to fight al-Qaida.”


Flush from the book’s success, Thompson and Idema (who had since relocated to Fayetteville) formed a promotional company, The Hunt for Bin Laden, LLC. As he worked in closer business quarters with Idema, Thompson says, he saw the man’s behavior grow increasingly erratic. In a deposition, Thompson said that Idema destroyed the interior of his own house with a samurai sword, that he choked his girlfriend in a fight, and that he forged a letter on Fox News stationery for use as evidence in his lawsuit against the network. A subpoena from the U.S. Attorney’s office also arrived, followed by a letter from North Carolina’s postal inspector, charging Idema with mail fraud for using a post-office box registered to the company to solicit funds for the US Counter-Terrorist Group. Thompson says that after he noticed $18,000 from the company had gone missing, he drove down to Fayetteville to close the company bank account; he says that Idema followed him there and threatened to kill both him and his girlfriend.


Moore, meanwhile, learned that Idema had ordered hundreds of copies of The Hunt for Bin Laden from Moore’s account with Random House and never paid for them. “He got [the books] from my account and sold them at full price,” Moore says.


A month later, Idema was back in Afghanistan. He set up shop in a rented house in Kabul, telling the landlord he intended to start a rug-exporting business. Instead, he founded a paramilitary outfit called Task Force Saber 7, complete with its own fatigues and military insignia. Once more he had a former soldier, Brent Bennett, and a TV cameraman, Eddie Caraballo, in tow. They hired four Afghans, and began rounding up Afghan civilians to interrogate about ties to Al Qaeda. On at least three occasions, nato forces assisted Idema in his raids. On at least one occasion, troops took into custody a suspect Task Force Saber 7 had apprehended.

But Idema came to serious notice only when he committed the same oversight that the guards at Abu Ghraib did. On April 30, he e-mailed several Stateside friends with news of Task Force Saber 7’s efforts. The e-mail included jpeg photos of Idema and company in interrogation mode, some of which were extremely graphic. One recipient was very disturbed by the images and forwarded the e-mail to American authorities. The rest, is history.

To sum up the life and times of JK Idema, in an evaluation report by Captain John D. Carlson near the end of Idema’s three-year tour of duty in the Special Forces, read: “[He] is without a doubt the most unmotivated, unprofessional, immature enlisted man that I have ever known.”

avtar singh

(Based on research by Stacey Sullivan, Operation Desert Fraud
How Keith Idema marketed his imaginary Afghan war, Ivan Randall, Who is Jack?)

Achilles
11-02-2004, 11:14
There was a major article on Idema in a major publication. His face was on the cover! Forgive me for not remembering which, but what the hell is going on? They made him look like the victim, and also they portrayed him as some kind of "Green Beret Superhero."

Why is the liberal media, who is ALL over us about the damn prison scandal, portraying Idema as a hero who was trying to capture OBL by torturing innocent Afghans?? WTF?

:confused:

hoot72
11-03-2004, 04:16
I didnt realize that was him on the front cover of TFD until a month or so ago and then saw his photo not once but several times in the book itself...

I do get the impression he had an enourmous influence on the novel as he keeps popping up throughout the novel doing great works of crusade, which I find hard to believe. I am also very disappointed with Random house for their principles of the book, rather than sticking to facts of the whole operation as opposed to creating and then adding to the fantasy of JKI.

One does question the integrity of the said Random house staff who allowed such a thing to happen but....ignoring the bull**** from JKI, it was a great insight into how well the SF did and a better understanding of how difficult their task was.

avtar

Team Sergeant
11-03-2004, 07:34
I didnt realize that was him on the front cover of TFD until a month or so ago and then saw his photo not once but several times in the book itself...

I do get the impression he had an enourmous influence on the novel as he keeps popping up throughout the novel doing great works of crusade, which I find hard to believe. I am also very disappointed with Random house for their principles of the book, rather than sticking to facts of the whole operation as opposed to creating and then adding to the fantasy of JKI.

One does question the integrity of the said Random house staff who allowed such a thing to happen but....ignoring the bull**** from JKI, it was a great insight into how well the SF did and a better understanding of how difficult their task was.

avtar

jacks a "legend in his own mind".

The only other SF soldier that would have kind words concerning jack also shares a jail cell, just like jack.

You should know by now that the worldwide media prints what they like, truth takes a backseat to money, just ask anyone in CBS/ABC/MSNBC/NYTIMES Random House, etc etc etc.

Just for the record avatr, the Real Quiet Professionals/Special Forces soldiers don't like to be placed in the same boat as jack,hes not one of us. Also, we don't like to discuss him because he is a fraud and a TWO time loser (convict). He's now where he belongs, back in jail.

end of story.

TS

hoot72
11-03-2004, 07:55
Hi Ts

Yup..I do have to agree with you...

I havent been back in the States since 96 so I am totally out of touch with so many things and perhaps a little big ignorant about the press and the corporate TV Networks..

avtar

NousDefionsDoc
11-03-2004, 10:42
Hey TS/TR,

This could be a very good teaching point about the tab and The Team for the Sluggos? I think Jacka is a perfect example.

longrange1947
11-03-2004, 18:33
Please call the jackass by his real name and not that made up bullshit. His name is Keith and he is an immature wannabee, neverbee. Yes I know him and had dealings with him. Not worth the oxygen.

NousDefionsDoc
01-08-2005, 13:18
From the Fayetteville, NC, Observer
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6782950


Idema's wife arrested

By Greg Barnes
Staff writer


The U.S. Marshal's Service arrested the wife of Jonathan Keith ''Jack'' Idema Friday on charges that she violated conditions of her parole in Texas.

Idema, a former Special Forces soldier from Fayetteville, was convicted by an Afghan court in September of torturing Afghan citizens in a freelance hunt for terrorists.
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His wife, who was booked in the Cumberland County Detention Center under the name Vickie Robertson, served two stints in a Texas prison - the last ending in 1997 - for forgery and credit card theft.

Robertson - who also uses the names Viktoria Running Wolf and Vickie Boyette - is accused of violating conditions of her parole by leaving Texas without permission.

Robertson has lived with Idema in Fayetteville for several years. She owned the Ultimate Pet Resort until recently, when it closed. She says she and Idema got married in Hawaii.

Robertson's arrest

Robertson was arrested by members of the U.S. Marshals' Service Violent Fugitive Task Force on a request by law enforcement in Texas, a spokesman for the Marshal's Service in Raleigh said.

Idema, a controversial figure in Fayetteville and in Afghanistan, is appealing his conviction, which carries a 10-year prison sentence. Fayetteville resident Brent Bennett was also sentenced to 10 years. The other American involved, cameraman Ed Caraballo of New York, got eight years.

The three were arrested July 5 and sentenced Sept. 15.

Staff writer Greg Barnes can be reached at barnesg@fayettevillenc.com or 486-3525.

12B4S
01-08-2005, 22:37
This being in concert with what TS stated which is 110% dead on.

Months ago I found a great site www.vnsfvetakerry...... obvioulsy before the election. Many out here may remember it. Anyway, there was discussion there as well about this Ass. Bookmarked a link back then.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/22/105010.shtml

Kasik
05-17-2014, 14:25
As many already know this fellow died of AIDS in 2012 in Mexico.

His remains were cremated.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/25/1805873/fayetteville-con-man-reportedly.html

His death certificate was posted online.

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/11/jack-idema-death-certificate-confirms-aids-2533038.html

He was writing a book whose working title was "The Sixth Pillar". That project died with him.

Among his many claims he offered he was in NIC with Mike Echanis.

He was not.

alelks
05-17-2014, 16:04
MAY HE ROT IN HELL WHERE HE BELONGS!

Enough said!