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bluebb
02-24-2013, 03:37
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/the-post-in-which-i-piss-off-everybody

Or, How I Learned To Stop Caring.

By way of introduction, I'd like to explain some of my former positions. Please do not reply and tell me why I'm wrong. That's not relevant to this post. These WERE my positions, for right or wrong.

This guy has a good point.

Utah Bob
02-24-2013, 06:13
Thanks
He has a number of good points.

Richard
02-24-2013, 08:09
Interesting blog - I enjoyed his bio...

I was born in 1967 in Birkenhead, England.

I was raised all over the place. No respectable town wanted us: Birkenhead; Aintree area of Liverpool; Newton-le-Willows; the Isle of Wight; Mississauga, Ontario; Newark, Granville and Toledo, Ohio.

I joined the USAF at age 18, and went on a whirlwind tour of the deserts and cornfields of America before settling down, sort of: Lackland Air Force Base, San Antonio, TX; Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX; Chanute AFB, Rantoul, IL; Urbana-Champaign, IL; Indianapolis, IN.

I've also visited: Large tracts of Scotland and Wales; Majorca, Spain; Kuwait; most of the continental US; Fort McCoy, WI; Camp Grayling, MI; Camp Ashland, NE; Offutt AFB, NE; Hurlburt Field, FL; Eglin AFB, FL; Tyndall AFB, FL; Hulman Field, Terre Haute; Winnipeg, Manitoba.

With my show schedule I spend lots of time in: Slippery Rock, PA; Chicago, IL; Minneapolis, MN, Columbus, OH; rural Michigan.

Coming soon: A town near you!

My hobbies are much what I do for a living and a few other things: reading, writing, historical re-enactments, forging blades, throwing myself out of aircraft, climbing, hiking, Karate, Kung Fu, shooting, archery, fine liquors, fine food, traveling and ranting at the political, social and moral state of the world.

I met Gail at a science fiction convention in 1991. We had a one-night stand. Then we had another. The second one has lasted 12 years so far. We have the typical 2.3 kids. One of each.

Okay, we have Morrigan, Eric and some cats.

...and might have to read this book.

Lawyers In Hell

Imagine a military unit of lawyers including such notables as Sergeant Strom Thurmond, Captain Joseph McCarthy and General Stephen Vincent Benet (the grandfather of the poet), in hell.

The Coordinating Legal Airborne Platoon (The CLAP) must parachute into Ashcanistan and search the wastelands in and around Kabum for the most honest man in hell.

I'm surprised former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark is missing from the CLAP list - he should be their CO.

Richard :munchin

Trapper John
02-24-2013, 09:02
"And that's the way it is!" (Walter Cronkite's sign off). Sad very, very sad :(
Thank you, Brother, for posting this.

Peregrino
02-24-2013, 10:16
He's also a damn fine author. (Though his books are guaranteed to piss off progressives. :D)

Team Sergeant
02-24-2013, 10:43
Good read.... I liked this:


"Or you can commit seppuku with a chainsaw. I really don't care anymore. This is the end of my support for any liberal cause, because liberals have become anything but."

SF18C
02-24-2013, 10:55
Good read!


Only counter would be this...he DID support those liberal causes in the past and is only pissed because those LIBERAL causes don't support the one he stands for...a tad hypocritical dontcha think? Maybe he should have thought out his support for those liberal causes before he needed them to support his!

SF_BHT
02-24-2013, 12:17
Thanks for posting...... Good read.......

orion5
02-24-2013, 13:20
Only counter would be this...he DID support those liberal causes in the past and is only pissed because those LIBERAL causes don't support the one he stands for...a tad hypocritical dontcha think? Maybe he should have thought out his support for those liberal causes before he needed them to support his!

I agree. Some of his arguments don't quite make sense, but what resonates is that I have tried, really tried, in my life to be tolerant of many things against my own personal values. But the current liberal push has gone too far. I find myself intolerant now, wanting to push back HARD, and not wanting to listen to any dissenters.

I'm proud of those few politicians standing up (Ted Cruz for one), even though I know they will be crucified by the media and may not make it intact to their next elections. I am proud of those companies taking a stand, like LaRue or Magpul, even though it could completely backfire for their business. I'm proud of our sheriff organizations and other law enforcement officials taking a stand, and of course, you QPs for your very public 2A letter.

I still meet too many average citizens on the street who aren't informed or don't care. Truth be told, there are a lot of them in my family, too. That's what depresses me. I suspect my intolerance is only going to grow stronger this year.... :(

cbtengr
02-24-2013, 19:31
A well written piece, the comments that followed were intersting too, obviously he has a cause that is not liberal and it never dawned on him that liberals would not support his cause. In my opinion he was more naive than hypocritical. I have grown much in the last few years in respect others with points of view that do not mirror mine but I find myself starting to feel like orion5, we are at a tipping point and uninformed folks best get informed. How ugly is all of this going to get in the next 4 years?

craigepo
02-24-2013, 19:35
Great post. As he alluded to, present-day "liberals" aren't actually liberal by the actual definition of the word. More like 1/2 statist, 1/2 moral relativists. Worse, very few worry that their ideas will ever work.

I love having discussions with real liberals. Generally, our goals are the same, we just differ in approach in how to reach those goals. Unfortunately the real liberals aren't the ones who get the media time.

grog18b
02-24-2013, 19:58
My favorite part:

First they came for the blacks, and I spoke up because it was wrong, even though I'm not black.

Then they came for the gays, and I spoke up, even though I'm not gay.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I spoke up, because it was wrong, even though I'm an atheist.

When they came for illegal aliens, I spoke up, even though I'm a legal immigrant.

Then they came for the pornographers, rebels and dissenters and their speech and flag burning, and I spoke up, because rights are not only for the establishment.

Then they came for the gun owners, and you liberal shitbags threw me under the bus, even though I'd done nothing wrong. So when they come to put you on the train, you can fucking choke and die.


A twist on an oldie but a goodie.

Trapper John
02-24-2013, 20:08
I love having discussions with real liberals. Generally, our goals are the same, we just differ in approach in how to reach those goals. Unfortunately the real liberals aren't the ones who get the media time.

Bro, ain't that the truth! But sadly I find it just as hard to find what I consider true conservatives today. By that I mean Goldwater conservatives. The Kennedy liberals and the Goldwater conservatives actually did have the same goal in mind - just differed in the method of getting there. Somehow we have become so divided by single issues and ideology that the rule of reason is completely lost in the debate :(

Badger52
02-25-2013, 10:13
Pretty good read. (Always thought the Python on the masthead is a nice touch.)

Cobwebs
02-25-2013, 10:55
A well written piece, the comments that followed were intersting too, obviously he has a cause that is not liberal and it never dawned on him that liberals would not support his cause. In my opinion he was more naive than hypocritical. I have grown much in the last few years in respect others with points of view that do not mirror mine but I find myself starting to feel like orion5, we are at a tipping point and uninformed folks best get informed. How ugly is all of this going to get in the next 4 years?

That's really what it comes down to. "How ugly is all of this going to get in the next four years. Hopefully reason will eventually take over but I have this nagging feeling in my gut that this administration has an agenda that envisions completely rebuilding America to resemble European socialism. Its like our country is being conquered from the inside out. Elections will still happen much like they do in Russia and other socialist states but everyone knows the outcome before they vote. As more power is granted or made into law by government bureaucrats more freedoms are given up or taken from its citizens that will never be reclaimed.

Team Sergeant
02-25-2013, 11:23
That's really what it comes down to. "How ugly is all of this going to get in the next four years. Hopefully reason will eventually take over but I have this nagging feeling in my gut that this administration has an agenda that envisions completely rebuilding America to resemble European socialism. Its like our country is being conquered from the inside out. Elections will still happen much like they do in Russia and other socialist states but everyone knows the outcome before they vote. As more power is granted or made into law by government bureaucrats more freedoms are given up or taken from its citizens that will never be reclaimed.

Learn from the past or be dammed to repeat it:


"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."

~ Marcus Tullius Cicero (42B.C)