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Hey to all, just picked one of these up....have already identified it's notorious feeding issue....I have looked at a few threads but am a little confused as to the procedure to fix.
Disassembly, not for the faint of heart, new spring, tube mag and loading port etc. Comments, direction please....thanks, CSM-H
Hey to all, just picked one of these up....have already identified it's notorious feeding issue....I have looked at a few threads but am a little confused as to the procedure to fix.
Disassembly, not for the faint of heart, new spring, tube mag and loading port etc. Comments, direction please....thanks, CSM-H
I've owned one for a few years. Never had a problem.
I loaded 38 special first, had trouble feeding rounds in the tube and then feeding to chamber was not at all smooth... 357 was even worse, some would not even feed into port and then angle didn't seem high enough to properly chamber.... CSM-H
I've owned one for a few years. Never had a problem.
The Reaper
01-20-2013, 20:33
Are rounds not being retained in the magazine?
TR
No offense to you, but don't baby it. Cycle it like it won't break (it won't)
Ret10Echo
01-21-2013, 07:57
CSM-H...
I haven't had any issues with mine. When I was shopping I did read a bit on how .38 may experience some feeding issues, but the .357 that I've fed through has not had a hitch. I know there are some ammunition manufacturers that have specific lever-action ammunition to ensure smoother feeding.
To Sinjefe's point, I recall cycling out of the box seemed to require a bit more effort than I would have thought it should have...but the weapon hasn't had any issues.
Hope you find your answer.
Reaper, the rounds do go into the tube...Ret10echo and sinjefe...yep you guys are all over it :) took it back this am and explained to the guy I bought it from my issues...he said he had never experienced any of the issues I stated but he also stated cycle it "hard/firmly", he also seemed to be concerned with the Blazer .357... anyway he gave me a box of 38 Special Cowboy ammo (for free) told me to take it and shoot it, if I still had the issues I stated to bring it back and either his gunsmith would fix it or Taurus would under warrenty.... So nore to follow, road trip next weep to the UP and I will put some round through it and see what happens. thanks guys for the responses... CSM-H
Conrad Y
02-01-2013, 12:25
I just got one too and curious what you find out. It will be awhile before I can get range time.
So I got this thing to the range, sweet little shooter with both .38 and .357. The action IS stiff but as others said, just run it through "don't baby it". That part works fine, the loading issue, port/door not opening is a pain. You have to load the rounds about half way in and then follow with another. If you push too hard, say after five you may not get six or more in.... The spring from the tube is very tight/strong.
I have looked up "DIY M92 receiver kit" and there is a guy called "Mr. M92" or Mr. Rossi... he does a spring kit for about $190 but has an 8-10 month turn around. There is also a kit from Lee's Gunsmithing, "Gunslinger kit for Rossi M92" cost about $25. There are you tube videos for install. I may try this kit, supposed to be easy the second time you do it...first time can be a bitch.
Lastly there are those that say that it just shoots that way, get used to it..... Not sure if I am buying that... anyway if I get and put the Lee's kit in it I will post results.
Ret10Echo
02-05-2013, 02:57
I have looked up "DIY M92 receiver kit" and there is a guy called "Mr. M92" or Mr. Rossi... he does a spring kit for about $190 but has an 8-10 month turn around. There is also a kit from Lee's Gunsmithing, "Gunslinger kit for Rossi M92" cost about $25. There are you tube videos for install. I may try this kit, supposed to be easy the second time you do it...first time can be a bitch.
Glad to hear things are "moving" well enough.
I am interested in hearing how the spring kit works out for you....
Brent Brown
02-14-2013, 10:16
I am looking at this pump in 357
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/lightning.php
CSM-H,
Try Hornady's .357 FTX rounds. They are specifically designed for tubular magazines for lever actions.
Chet
So here I am with the Lee's Spring kit, thrying to make the gun better, faster, eject better, lighter spring (read trigger pull) any way after 7 hours and watching ever video I could find for this rifle...I still do not have it back together...... As I stated in th first thread, not for the faint of heart.....I am truly pissed off..... I could take apart and put back together faster an M-1 Grande.... what a peice of shit!!!!
Badger52
02-16-2013, 20:14
Late to the thread but hope your M92 issue is getting better vs. the other direction. Can I assume you've tried this forum area of Shooter's Forum (http://www.shootersforum.com/model-92s-winchester-browning-rossi-navy-arms-lsi-uberti/) dedicated to the M92 and its clones?
I have one in 44 WCF (aka .44-40). Sweet gun, but I did have to do some mild ejector work on it because it would beat that 44 WCF case up like crazy, ruining 'em for reloads - brass pretty thin at the mouth. And, yes, a bear in terms of detail stripping & re-ass'y.
Every one I've seen has a pretty stiff loading port; don't recall what the tweak is for that, but someone's got it somewhere. Too many cowboy shooters running these things. They do work in a bit but they are, frankly, meant to be pretty stiff. (You already know you need to be running it with vigor, like Walter Brennan is tossin' dynamite for you.)
I would be interested how this continues to develop for you.
Good luck.
The Reaper
02-16-2013, 23:55
So here I am with the Lee's Spring kit, thrying to make the gun better, faster, eject better, lighter spring (read trigger pull) any way after 7 hours and watching ever video I could find for this rifle...I still do not have it back together...... As I stated in th first thread, not for the faint of heart.....I am truly pissed off..... I could take apart and put back together faster an M-1 Grande.... what a peice of shit!!!!
I feel for you, brother.
I tore down my Winchester 94 in .357 and thought I was never going to get it back together again. Took better than a hour, with some time outs for cuss breaks.
TR
TR wrote; "I tore down my Winchester 94 in .357 and thought I was never going to get it back together again. Took better than a hour, with some time outs for cuss breaks."
Maybe I should of went demo.... then I could just blow it up..... CSM-H
Conrad, Don't know if you followed this thread...But I just got the rifle back together...the Leesgunsmithing Kit for Rossi is only "half" good as I only ended up using the trigger spring (which is a wire) and the lever spring. The ejector spring just would not go in and the main spring was too light to function the trigger...So I cut a coil and a half off of the stock spring and it went right together and functions great!!! Now I am happy...will be writing the company with my displeasure. CSM-H
I just got one too and curious what you find out. It will be awhile before I can get range time.
Conrad Y
03-05-2013, 20:14
CSM-H - Yeah, I read this thread much later but I'm glad I did, thanks for the heads-up on the spring kit. I also had a bugger of a time getting the trigger group in with the hammer all lined-up until I understood to keep the trigger pulled back fully while inserting the group.Once that "initiation" was done I was able to slick-up the action some with my trusty whetstones and files. What a difference just cleaning up the sharp edges does. I do have a Lee's spring kit in my Colt SAA clone and like especially the wire trigger/bolt spring so I thought about the same kit that you just bought also for my Rossi. Now I'm glad I waited. I'm curious how your rig works on the range now with the upgrades.
I also tried the trick with using a dummy round on the bolt to keep the ejector in place while installing the lever and drift pin, nice trick.
CY
BTW- I love the handiness and versitility of this thing and it's a nice match for my .357 Colt SAA clone. I'm looking forward to trying black powder loads also.
Not wishing to beat an already dead horse, however, I had a sudden desire to obtain a lever-rifle in .357, and hastily traded off my Kimber Pro Tactical II, for a NIB Rossi 92 16". I tried a number of .357 loads, and they simply would not feed from the mag tube to chamber, yet .38 Spcl feeds flawlessly. A call to well known Rossi smith, to find out he was out of the needed part, and suggested to send it in for warranty service (quoted as a minimum 6 month turnaround).
Now, I am seeking out a Marlin 1894C, to have Wild West Guns convert into a Co-Pilot, to match my .457 Co-Pilot.......A call to WWG, and it seems the Marlins are selling for over 1.5k......I have not given up on the Rossi, just perhaps a little dis-heartened.....Beautiful gun, decent finish, and handy sized. Yet, for now, if I need the extra power, I am left with Buffalo Bore Heavy-.38 Special loads, until I make the commitment to send it off for warranty service.
mojaveman
03-18-2013, 17:35
Had a Rossi M-92 in .357 and only bought it because it was right after Winchester quit producing their Model 94. Honestly, I believe it's built just as good if not better than a real Winchester. I only fired .357 JSP and JHP through it and didn't experience any problems. I was very impressed with the .357s performance coming out of a 20" barrel. Perhaps there was just a bad lot of that firearm produced. I eventually traded it in for a mint Winchester 94 in .30-30.
I still have an unused Brownells M92 spring kit if anybody needs one.