View Full Version : Emails Show Obama Admin Knew Ansar Al Sharia Was Behind Attack in Benghazi
I guess that things just got more interesting IRT who knew what and when...the emails themselves are in the news article...
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/breaking-news/emails-show-the-obama-administration-knew-ansar-al-sharia-was-behind-the-attack-in-benghazi/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogs%2FGretawire+(Internal+-+Gretawire+-+Blog)
BKKMAN Thx for the post.. like this wasn't going to come out. I just thought it would have been closer to November than now.. JMOO
Why hasn't this "HIT" the news until now?? Yeah I know.. still had to say it. :p
For you all here in Astan that have the Proxy server blockers
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-told-militant-claim-two-hours-libya-010758099.html
Copy of the 3 emails referred to in the news reports
ETA: Time difference between Washington DC and Libya is DC time + 6 hours
Badger52
10-24-2012, 08:25
Why hasn't this "HIT" the news until now?? Yeah I know.. still had to say it. :pFYI, CNN and the online "tingle down the leg" network have it. Those whose webpage genuflects to MSNBC though won't see it up front unless they drill into the World section. Like TV snippets-as-gospel, the slothful populace won't see it for a few days more.
The MSNBC link, to be fair & balanced, is also still carrying the full "documents" article with links which, unfortunately, still paints a pretty poor picture of a decent RSO in the area trying his damndest to get the right thing done and offending the sensibilities of the Foggy Bottom crowd who move alot of thoughtful prose around the email server. The mission in Benghazi had their charter to-do list and weren't getting supported.
Those emails contain alot of embedded distribution lists. ALOT of people saw those if they were on duty or the stuff was coming to their Crackberry.
medic&commo
10-24-2012, 21:10
Unfortunately the disclosure of these emails will make no difference to those predisposed to vote for BHO.
Spoke to a few today. Their response was "He (POTUS) didn't know, it was Hillary, besides Romney would have sent in troops - we don't want that, Barack did the right thing.".
Thought about further explaining and / or questions, but decided it wouldn't serve any purpose.
m&c
meh...
Gov Romney has a binder full of women that are being held captive by horses bayonets
He cant be president because he is rich and evil.
The blame game has moved a step further. Now it is the miilitay's fault for not responding. Can't copy the link from my phone, but is being reported by Fox.
Badger52
10-25-2012, 06:06
The blame game has moved a step further. Now it is the miilitay's fault for not responding.That dog won't hunt. They're putting the pieces of the circular firing squad together because the DoS Regional Security Officer had been painting the deteriorating picture for them for some time - and the host security was a frickin' militia faction.
:rolleyes:
That dog won't hunt. They're putting the pieces of the circular firing squad together because the DoS Regional Security Officer had been painting the deteriorating picture for them for some time - and the host security was a frickin' militia faction.
:rolleyes:
Unfortunately, for some it may hunt. Especially this close to the election. The only silver lining on this entire cloud is that Hillary's chances of running in 16 is over. No matter who ultimately takes the fall, this happened on her watch. Any primary contender or GOP contender will make sure everyone remembers this black mark.
Was she under sniper fire again or was it those bayonet equipped Lipazaners in blue helmets?
Richard
Can Republicans "win" a shouting match over who has mishandled what in regards to GWOT? (Because the Democrats will make it a discussion of everything that has happened since 9/11.)
And what if the administration has aces up its sleeves IRT this specific event? Will the GOP do an Emily Litella?
MOO, the GOP needs to take a step back, to participate in a bipartisan investigation, and then to use the findings to support a broader movement that leads to diplomatic and armed service professionals being enabled further to do their jobs with less political interference from either side of the aisle. Then, the GOP could use the momentum from that movement to lead an even broader call for widespread civil service reform. Later, when the American people realize that the wheels of government are turning more efficiently, more voters may ask the GOP "What else you got?"
My $0.02.
The cover up involving Benghazi is starting to look worse than Watergate (no one died from the Watergate scandal). If Barry is reelected look for the impeachment hearings to begin.
Badger52
10-25-2012, 17:32
MOO, the GOP needs to take a step back, to participate in a bipartisan investigation, and then to use the findings to support a broader movement that leads to diplomatic and armed service professionals being enabled further to do their jobs with less political interference from either side of the aisle.I think you make an excellent point. Admitting a lack of reticence over bashing the administration (in many areas) over lack of competence, I do believe the issue that could/should come out is that there are clear indications on-the-record that a security situation was minimized to manage some other agenda, or through sheer indifference from not having (or simply discarding) the perspective of those on the ground. That, rather than the "morning after" charade of "how come we're not all telling the same lie" will hopefully be the focus.
The cover up involving Benghazi is starting to look worse than Watergate (no one died from the Watergate scandal). If Barry is reelected look for the impeachment hearings to begin.
Ha... a Joe Biden presidency.
I think of the "pushing an old lady off the cliff ad", and I think Obama's competitors should run one like this...
Sec. Clinton is walking through the streets of Wash DC, a bus is seen approaching in the distance as the narrator rambles on about current events while dramatic music plays in the background...
blaH BLAH BLAH, Benghazi, blah blah, Hillary Clinton blah blah, American voters, blah blah blah, election...
...meanwhile, as Hillary nears the curb, someone that looks like the POTUS runs up and pushes her right into traffic and then disappears into the crowd. The scene looks like an old three-stooges clip of Curly falling from a roof, but still, under the bus she goes.
The music stops and then the narrator says, "the buck stops here"
"Vote for Roseanne Barr and Cindy Sheehan"
ha ha ha...
You f*ckers thought this would be a Mitt Romney ad didnt you..................
hahahahahahahaha
Everyone is waiting for the "October Surprise". This is it! Unfortunately he will be protected by the media.
Anyone remember last election? "I'm gonna bankrupt the coal industry" and then he took all the coal producing states. Where was the media on that one? Same place as this election....in his back pocket.
Just my $0.02
sf
....in his back pocket.
Just my $0.02
sf
Actually, somewhere between his back pockets. ;)
Pat
Streck-Fu
10-26-2012, 07:56
Pentagon claims that there was not enough information to send a response team to help during the attack. I can believe the attack was over before any response could be organized, but this seems indicate a lack of contingency planning or a "Holy shit! What's happening" deer in the headlights moment overall rather than a specific denial of response.
LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/us-knew-too-little-deploy-troops-benghazi-pentagon-060316307.html)
US knew too little to deploy troops to Benghazi: Pentagon
By Phil Stewart and Susan Cornwell | Reuters – 7 hrs ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon defended its decision not to deploy forces to Benghazi, Libya, as soon as the U.S. mission came under attack on September 11th, saying it would have been irresponsible to put forces in harm's way without better information.
President Barack Obama's response to the attacks in Libya has been a contentious issue in the hard-fought U.S. presidential race, with Republican opponents raising questions about his administration's truthfulness and competence.
Obama supporters have in turn accused Republicans of making unfounded accusations in an effort to score political points from the death of a U.S. ambassador and the three others killed in the Benghazi attack.
The Speaker of the House of Representatives, Republican John Boehner, asked in a letter to Obama on Thursday about whether military options and assets were offered "during and in the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attack."
"Can you explain what options were presented to you or your staff, and why it appears assets were not allowed to be pre-positioned, let alone utilized?" Boehner asked.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told Pentagon reporters that U.S. forces were on a heightened state of alert already because of the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington by al Qaeda.
But he said there simply wasn't enough information to responsibly deploy forces to Libya at the time of the attack.
"You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place," Panetta said.
Lacking that information, Panetta said he, General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, and General Carter Ham, head of the U.S. military's Africa Command, felt they couldn't "put forces at risk in that situation."
"This happened within a few hours and it was really over before, you know, we had the opportunity to really know what was happening," Panetta said.
In the aftermath of the attack, Panetta reminded reporters that the Pentagon deployed a Marine fleet anti-terrorist security team to Tripoli and had Navy ships off the coast.
"And we were prepared to respond to any contingency. And certainly had forces in place to do that," he said.
The administration initially attributed the violence to protests over an anti-Islam film and said it was not premeditated. Obama and other officials have since said the incident was a deliberate terrorist attack.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has attributed the shifting explanation to "the fog of war."
A State Department email made public this week showed that two hours after the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission compound in Benghazi, the Department's Operations Center advised officials at various U.S. agencies that a militant group called Ansar al-Sharia had claimed credit on Twitter and Facebook for the attacks.
U.S. officials, including Clinton, on Wednesday said that such Internet postings did not constitute hard evidence of who was responsible for the attacks.
The State Department has set up an independent review board to investigate the background and response to the attacks.
The U.S. Senate intelligence committee on Thursday said it will hold hearings in November - after the November 6 presidential election - on security and intelligence issues raised by the September 11 attack in Libya.
Badger52
10-26-2012, 09:15
Pentagon claims that there was not enough information to send a response team to help during the attack. I can believe the attack was over before any response could be organized, but this seems indicate a lack of contingency planning or a "Holy shit! What's happening" deer in the headlights moment overall rather than a specific denial of response.I don't see how you can support believing "the attack was over before any response could be organized" and support the "deer in the headlights" reaction at the same time. That's akin to discounting the adage "when seconds count, the police are minutes away." Sorry, you can't have it all.
The re-opened AMEMB was in Tripoli, but DoS made a decision to maintain the Benghazi "presence" through at least end of calendar year 2012. And it would seem (http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/DEI-to-BHO-10-19-2012-attachments.pdf) there was plenty of wrangling about what gets supported how. In case you haven't, rack & stack that link and read through it. I hope the RSO is 1/2 as sharp as he should be & has separate copies of all record traffic for when the musical chairs start. (Unless ATF and DoJ are using all the chairs these days.)
When you forget about the bad guys you're gonna get hammered.
Streck-Fu
10-26-2012, 10:47
I don't see how you can support believing "the attack was over before any response could be organized" and support the "deer in the headlights" reaction at the same time.
I don't.
....but this seems indicate a lack of contingency planning or a "Holy shit! What's happening" deer in the headlights moment
DIYPatriot
10-26-2012, 12:37
I posted a link to theBlaze's account and interview with Ty Woods' father. However, others on this website made the same post while I posted mine. Out of respect to board rules and, more importantly to the QP's that posted the link, I am deleting my post.