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PRB
09-19-2012, 22:20
Saudi Commentary: Arab World Miserable, Backward, 'Hopeless'

GMP20120917614007 Riyadh Al-Riyad Online in Arabic 15 Sep 12

[Commentary by Raja al-Mutayri from the "Shujun" column: "A Worthless Movie Has Disgraced Us"]

There is no hope in the Arab World. Blood is being spilled everywhere, chronic anarchy prevails, ideological deformities are abound, and religious loathing boils over the hearth of sectarianism. It is a miserable world, due to the backwardness of which it has become the biggest market for arms dealers in the United States and Europe. In a single week, Yemen and Iraq shook to the sound of the bombings, massacres continued in Syria, the fools killed the US ambassador to Libya, and Egypt has not seen one calm day since the onset of the Arab Spring.

Every time, a series of tragedies bring us back to square one, where backwardness, fundamentalism, and violence with which no revolution or coup works, can be found. Having promisingly expected an alteration in the Arab mentality in the wake of the Spring and 11 years since the 9/1 bombings, here we are back at the beginning; raising Al-Qa'ida's black banners and chanting Bin Ladin's name in a state of mass hallucination that indicates that the decay of the Arab reality was not caused by corrupt political regimes but by an original flaw in the Arab mental structure and its set of values.

Who would have expected our reality to be turned upside down because of a worthless movie that does not deserve a pause, in a silly repeat of what we had done with Indian national Salman Rushdie and his novel "Satanic Verses" 20 years ago. We granted Rushdie global fame after he was an obscure non-entity. The Arabs have not learned after 20 years, for they remain in the same place, where the least provocation could turn them into irrational blind killing machines.

After twenty years, we say it in despair and defeat, just like actor Izzat al-Alayili had said at the end of the great Egyptian movie "Al-Tawq and Al-Iswirah" [the necklace and the bracelet]. Upon returning from a long absence abroad to his village in Al-Sa'id in Egypt, hoping to find the reality of his village had changed after all these years, he discovered that backwardness remained the same, set deep within both minds and the earth. He felt disappointed and ashamed and smashed everything around him, shouting and cursing this backwardness in one of the greatest scenes in the history of Egyptian cinema.

This movie tells the story of our disappointment, summarizes our tragedy, and presents an everlasting pessimist omen for the future of the Arab world. Just like Izzat al-Alayili, we were hoping to bear the fruits of the past 11 years in which we worked to refute any link between Islam and terrorism, only to discover that the Arab world was hopeless.

Box
09-19-2012, 22:44
Wow...
I wonder why we aren't seeing or hearing more commentary like that in the main stream? If we could just get a few mullahs to cop to half as much personal responsibility, we might actually get them to start acting human.

Dozer523
09-20-2012, 07:46
Wow...
I wonder why we aren't seeing or hearing more commentary like that in the main stream? If we could just get a few mullahs to cop to half as much personal responsibility, we might actually get them to start acting human. Maybe he'll nail it onto the Mosque door. It worked when Martin Luther took a hammer to the Catholic church door in 1517.

longrange1947
09-20-2012, 09:37
Maybe he'll nail it onto the Mosque door. It worked when Martin Luther took a hammer to the Catholic church door in 1517.

Or he might get nailed to a Mosque door. Telling the truth is dangerous over there. :eek:

Sdiver
09-20-2012, 10:16
Or he might get nailed to a Mosque door. ....

Nailing him to a door made of wood ........ Too Jewish ...... errrrr, actually Roman. (I'm sure you get the meaning)

No, they wouldn't kill him like that. They'd either be-head him, stone him, cut out his tongue for speaking the truth, things like that. Remember, They follow a "civilized" religion. :rolleyes:

Badger52
09-20-2012, 12:07
Remember, They follow a "civilized" religion. :rolleyes:Well, they may have to be disavowed of that in many cases if this is any indication. (http://transportationnation.org/2012/09/19/court-rules-that-ny-mta-must-run-anti-jihad-ad/)

Not that something this benign would impact anyone's threat assessment.

MtnGoat
09-20-2012, 12:18
Wow...
I wonder why we aren't seeing or hearing more commentary like that in the main stream? If we could just get a few mullahs to cop to half as much personal responsibility, we might actually get them to start acting human.

Because they care about the election. This would spoil current administration views.

Where did you find this? You have a link?

longrange1947
09-20-2012, 18:43
Nailing him to a door made of wood ........ Too Jewish ...... errrrr, actually Roman. (I'm sure you get the meaning)

No, they wouldn't kill him like that. They'd either be-head him, stone him, cut out his tongue for speaking the truth, things like that. Remember, They follow a "civilized" religion. :rolleyes:

Saw some pictures of crucified Christians in Egypt, maybe not to Jewish or Roman. :D

orion5
09-20-2012, 19:07
Saudi Commentary: Arab World Miserable, Backward, 'Hopeless'

GMP20120917614007 Riyadh Al-Riyad Online in Arabic 15 Sep 12

[Commentary by Raja al-Mutayri from the "Shujun" column: "A Worthless Movie Has Disgraced Us"]

Where did you find this? You have a link?

I'd like to see the link too.....looks like PRB pulled from something written in Arabic? I googled 'Raja al-Mutayri" and "Shujun" but they both bring me back to ps.com. ;)

cbtengr
09-20-2012, 19:30
Or he might get nailed to a Mosque door. Telling the truth is dangerous over there. :eek:

That was my first thought also. It was refreshing to read his point of view however his piece was titled "A Worthless Movie Has Disgraced Us" this issue goes a lot deeper than any movie. I hope he is ok, it's about time someone a lot closer to the situation over there started speaking up.

PRB
09-20-2012, 19:52
Wow...
I wonder why we aren't seeing or hearing more commentary like that in the main stream? If we could just get a few mullahs to cop to half as much personal responsibility, we might actually get them to start acting human.

He's not in the mainstream, far from it. Just an interesting piece from a guy that is more 'wordly' and probably not a fervent Muslim. You do find them but they rairly articulate their positions publicly.....especially in SA.

Sdiver
09-20-2012, 21:32
Saw some pictures of crucified Christians in Egypt, maybe not to Jewish or Roman. :D

D'oh !!!!!!! ..... That's right.

It really won't be "Too Jewish" until they start killing the first born male child of every family. They've come/are coming close though, which is scary enough.

MtnGoat
09-22-2012, 06:02
Wow...
I wonder why we aren't seeing or hearing more commentary like that in the main stream? If we could just get a few mullahs to cop to half as much personal responsibility, we might actually get them to start acting human.
PRB Where you find this? Email?

Not one thing on the internet..anywhere

PRB
09-22-2012, 12:51
found it here...don't know if that will work but it is the US Gov open source center from information to intelligence

https://www.opensource.gov/public/content/login/login.fcc

MtnGoat
09-22-2012, 13:01
I'm surprised it hadn't "popped" anywhere.

PRB
09-22-2012, 13:15
Yeah, I know...but it was a translated piece only printed in Arabic.
The Admin wouldn't run with it as it is anti Muslim in tone and it is def a minority opinion even among the Arab intelligentsia.
We've all seen the 'false pride' of Arabs that invent accomplishments to bolster a culture with few recent (100's of years) note worthy creations.
To badmouth Arab culture is to, in the eyes of many Arabs/Muslims, to badmouth Islam as they are one and the same...that's why I found it unique.