View Full Version : Suspension of Joint Patrols
Roguish Lawyer
09-17-2012, 18:46
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57514546/u.s-military-suspends-joint-patrols-with-afghans/
MTN Medic
09-17-2012, 18:51
Guess that's that...:munchin
mojaveman
09-17-2012, 19:09
It appears that their tactic is working.
TARFU of a situation - the bad guys know we're leaving and are starting to make their lists of who to purge once we're gone and now even the good guys are trying to avoid the inevitable by showing the bad guys how 'fundi' they can be to try and keep their heads and their families - what a goat fornication of a situation.
Richard :munchin
Astronomy
09-17-2012, 23:02
The enemy has executed a brilliant Economy of Force operation.
This year....for the expenditure of about a platoon's worth of martyrs, they have eliminated less than a company's worth of friendlies (KIA/WIA)...and decisively peeled us away from our Afghan allies.
They have also shaken domestic political support for the war...thus hastening early departure.
Strategic goals accomplished for little actual cost to our opponents. :mad:
Factor if trying to make an Army overnight.. NATO/US didn't really start dumping money, training,equipment into ANA,ANP ETC till 2010. That's the year we ramped up recruitment and training. NATO/US wanted bodies and show that ANA/ANP had the numbers to control areas.
Back in 2007 that Taliban were putting people into the ANA before they could join the Taliban. They statement was that anyone that joined the ANA then deserted with their weapons and if they but extra items such as NVGs, machine guns, ETC So TB has had a steak in the ANA for years we all know that. I feel that their tactics, their game plan has changed this year. Someone in Pakistan leadership has realize that one suicide bomber blowing himself doesn't get the news coverage as one Talib killing that one NATO or more specifically US service number.
Gen McChrystal and Gen Petraeus were the first U.S. Generals to ever, in a Command position, state publicly that the Taliban hashas a shadow government working against the efforts of NATO and GIRoA.
Like most things we (NATO/ISAF) say one thing and do another. Remember ISAF is ISee Americans Fight.. Nothing new.
1stindoor
09-18-2012, 06:43
The enemy has executed a brilliant Economy of Force operation.
This year....for the expenditure of about a platoon's worth of martyrs, they have eliminated less than a company's worth of friendlies (KIA/WIA)...and decisively peeled us away from our Afghan allies.
They have also shaken domestic political support for the war...thus hastening early departure.
Strategic goals accomplished for little actual cost to our opponents. :mad:
...and sadly, this lesson won't be learned at the highest levels of the Military and Government.
...and sadly, this lesson won't be learned at the highest levels of the Military and Government.
Yeap.. So right
Badger52
09-18-2012, 09:54
U.S. officials say that somewhere between 10 percent and 25 percent of the insider attacks are the work of enemy infiltrators. The rest are the result of personal insults and just plain cultural misunderstandings.Horsehockey.
Yeap.. So right
If I may interject, the gvt will definitely learn the lesson, but they'll elect to blatantly ignore it. :mad:
That's what governments do.
If I may interject, the gvt will definitely learn the lesson, but they'll elect to blatantly ignore it. :mad:
That's what governments do.
They always write the checks that others must cash.
No sarcasm or animosity here Sir, but I'm not following you. :(
Ambush Master
09-22-2012, 09:44
They always write the checks that others must cash.
No sarcasm or animosity here Sir, but I'm not following you. :(
SL, if you were referring to Post #11, what he is saying is that the politicians will make promises and take a stand on issues that they will not suffer the consequences of!! It will be the Citizens/Military out at the Pointy End of the Spear that will suffer from the politician's ignorance and total lack of situational awareness with regard to any confrontation or other situation both CONUS and OCONUS!!
SL, if you were referring to Post #11, what he is saying is that the politicians will make promises and take a stand on issues that they will not suffer the consequences of!! It will be the Citizens/Military out at the Pointy End of the Spear that will suffer from the politician's ignorance and total lack of situational awareness with regard to any confrontation or other situation both CONUS and OCONUS!!
Sir,
it now makes sense, I appreciate your clarification. Needless to say that I concur with QP MR2's point.