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Pete
08-16-2012, 15:02
Cop punished over beliefs

"A Muslim police officer was ordered to attend an event at a Christian Church in which officers observed Christian worship services, heard an explanation of Christian beliefs and were proselytized. As a Muslim, Fields believed the order violated his rights to freely exercise his own faith, but the department determined he was refusing a lawful order and punished him.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/admitted-christian-cop-punished-over-beliefs/

Wait a second - I might have gotten something in the story wrong but...............

".........Robert Muise of the AFLC told WND the case is an example of the enforcement of Islamic religious law, or Shariah, across the nation today through various courts, orders and precedents.

He noted that in Fields’ case, never before had officers been ordered to attend a so-called “law enforcement appreciation day,” until the local mosque leaders decided to hold one. Then, the attendance became mandatory......................"

Hand
08-17-2012, 08:12
Well played QP Pete.

This feels like sitting on the beach watching the waves get bigger and bigger. Sand, like freedom washing out a few grains at a time. Tyranny like a tsunami, threatening to engulf this great land.

ZonieDiver
08-17-2012, 08:36
Well played QP Pete.

This feels like sitting on the beach watching the waves get bigger and bigger. Sand, like freedom washing out a few grains at a time. Tyranny like a tsunami, threatening to engulf this great land.

And... "Like sands through an hourglass, so are the days of our lives."

I get the 'death by a thousand cuts' idea, but before I get too worried about the 'tsunami', I'd at least like to see some bodysurfable waves coming ashore, because we do happen to have a shitload of sand grains on our 'beach of freedom'!

ZonieDiver
08-17-2012, 09:56
CPT Fields's main objection seems to be that he can't respond to differences in core religious beliefs, a duty according to his faith, while in uniform.

Quite honestly, while he is in uniform and on duty, I don't think he has that right either. Nor does a soldier. You put on the uniform and you agree to obey legal orders, or face the consequences. If not, you end up with Bradley (or whatever his new name is) Manning's all over the place.

Let's see... if the cops want to put surveillance on a mosque, there might be blowback. Yet some captain is going to object to being invited in!!!! Once upon a time, in an old duty MOS, we'd have looked upon that as a gift from above.

I've personally attended religious services of many faiths of which I am not a member. (That was partly the result of taking History 314 - "A Religious History of the United States" from a retired LTC chaplain at "The U".) I cannot recall ANY in which I was not "proselytized" to one degree or another. It didn't work.

To me, this is a case of "Big Boy Rules" - and the whining captain forgot he was supposed to be a Big Boy. And, since he is a captain, perhaps the punishment was a bit more severe than it would have been for an officer. He is supposed to set the example... not provide an example for disobedience.

Pete
08-17-2012, 12:25
I'm glad all of you agree with me on how a good Muslim Police Captain should act.