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No predictions but U.S. eyeing top Olympic spot
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/25/us-oly-usa-adv-idUSBRE86O1OY20120725
"(Reuters) - The United States may routinely issue forecasts for the number of jobs being created or home sales but there will be no bold predictions about the number of medals American athletes might win at the London Olympics..............."
Go Team USA - although I have a warm spot in my heart for Cav and the boys in the Road Race.
Badger52
07-27-2012, 17:14
In most cases I have to respect the efforts of all the athletes who get to that point. However, the bride & I watch a fair number of int'l comps as well, and watched alot of the US team trials.
Some optimism at this point; they look pretty good as a team & a walking 55-gal drum of whupass in several specific areas.
greenberetTFS
07-27-2012, 18:08
Keep an eye on Lolo Jones,she's a gal that can use all the support we can give her......;) :D
Big Teddy :munchin
Stargazer
07-29-2012, 10:07
Rhode, 33, became the first American athlete to win five medals in an individual event in five consecutive Olympic Games. She earned a gold medal in women’s skeet on Sunday, setting an Olympic record and tying the world record by hitting 99 out of 100 targets. She also became the first woman to win three gold medals in Olympic shooting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/sports/olympics/kim-rhode-of-us-takes-gold-in-womens-skeet-setting-records.html
Congrats, Kim! :lifter Go USA!!
Badger52
07-29-2012, 11:09
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/sports/olympics/kim-rhode-of-us-takes-gold-in-womens-skeet-setting-records.html
Congrats, Kim! :lifter Go USA!!That was really cool, just saw her on camera, very gracious and, besides the usual talk of the hard work, perserverance in the midst of other 'normal' distractions, and support of those around her, spoke of the honor of representing her country and bringing home the Gold for the USA.
Again, there's ass & there's the Class exhibited by Ms. Rhode. Well-earned and Salud ma'am.
:lifter
Guymullins
07-29-2012, 11:15
Yes, USA first and China putting up a good fight for second. Watch Australia punch way above its weight. What will be interesting is to add all the new countries together that used to make up the USSR and try to establish whether freedom has improved their performance over Communism. Our South African standings will again be crippled by Affirmative Action and quotas in teams but we will be really proud of Oscar Pistorius, the double amputee who made it into our relay race after having been shafted by complaints about his prosthesis' at the previous Olympics. Can you imagine what kind of able bodied athlete would protest against a double amputee competing against him?
.................. Can you imagine what kind of able bodied athlete would protest against a double amputee competing against him?
Depends on who he beats and by how much.
If he places in the top ten but without a medal many may say no harm to foul.
But the question then becomes "How fast can he go with a better set of springs?" and then "How much of it is him and how much technology?"
Guymullins
07-29-2012, 11:54
Depends on who he beats and by how much.
If he places in the top ten but without a medal many may say no harm to foul.
But the question then becomes "How fast can he go with a better set of springs?" and then "How much of it is him and how much technology?"
Thankfully, that question has already been answered after the last setback. He wont get a medal unless he runs out of his skin. He was in with a chance last Olympics but wasted years doing exhaustive tests to prove there was no advantage. Bear in mind, there are many people with similar prosthesis who run in the Para Olympics who cant get anywhere near his times. Our other star, Natalie Du Toit was the first amputee to qualify for the Olympics in China. There could be no complaint with her as she swam without any prosthesis. She only came 16th in the 10km swim, but made the country very proud to have qualified and raced.
So if he comes back with better springs and wins?
Guymullins
07-29-2012, 12:14
So if he comes back with better springs and wins?
He cant without going through another huge battery of tests. However, the initial tests found that he gained no mechanical advantage over a person with lower limbs. In other words, you cant get out more than you put in. Millions of years of evolution has produced the best answer to the problem of walking and running.
Just because you like the guy doesn't matter.
The door has been opened.
There's a reason bike riders are not allowed in the marathon. A bike from the 1880's might not have won - but today's could, very easy.
The whole "well he can because it does not give him an advantage" is crap. Who decides what an "advantage" is? How is an advantage measured? For it not to be an advantage does that not make it a handicap? Is he handicapped by not being able to compete with the fastest runners - only the slower ones? Maybe to be "equal" he does need better springs. So if he gets better springs and wins was it him or the springs? They should have just said no. The door is wide open.
Guymullins
07-29-2012, 12:41
Just because you like the guy doesn't matter.
The door has been opened.
There's a reason bike riders are not allowed in the marathon. A bike from the 1880's might not have won - but today's could, very easy.
The whole "well he can because it does not give him an advantage" is crap. Who decides what an "advantage" is? How is an advantage measured? For it not to be an advantage does that not make it a handicap? Is he handicapped by not being able to compete with the fastest runners - only the slower ones? Maybe to be "equal" he does need better springs. So if he gets better springs and wins was it him or the springs? They should have just said no. The door is wide open.
If you think a fellow with both legs amputated is not handicapped, I would like to know what you consider is? I like the guy because he has overcome this handicap to such an extent that he qualified for the Olympics whereas thousands of people worldwide with the same handicap and prosthesis have not come close. This is such a great example of Olympic spirit that it must be an inspiration to all who witness it. Why should the door not be opened to handicapped people to compete on level playing fields with their able bodied comrades?
................... Why should the door not be opened to handicapped people to compete on level playing fields with their able bodied comrades?
It looks like we do agree we should get rid of all those other "special" olympics and have just one.
Handicaped? You put a whole new spin on the way I was using it. Ever been to a race track and made a bet?
Anybody watch the archery competition? Italy got gold by a fraction of an inch.
Guymullins
07-29-2012, 13:18
It looks like we do agree we should get rid of all those other "special" olympics and have just one.
Handicaped? You put a whole new spin on the way I was using it. Ever been to a race track and made a bet?
Ha ha Pete. No I have never bet on the horses. I have family in the racehorse breeding game and I would have to be mentally handicapped to try and compete in that business.
Well, it looks like the dude made too many TV commercials and strutted his belly around and forgot to get his mind right and lost.
Meanwhile the girl got down to business and won Gold. Some go up - others down.
Opening ceremony was boring IMHO. I changed the channel along with 5 other people. I kept coming back and forth tho.
Badger52
07-29-2012, 17:05
Anybody watch the archery competition? Italy got gold by a fraction of an inch.Watched the women's films this AM, RoK by an arrow over Chicom, good stuff.
Guymullins
07-30-2012, 03:08
Opening ceremony was boring IMHO. I changed the channel along with 5 other people. I kept coming back and forth tho.
I thought I was the only one. I switched off after the "Queen" parachuted in, with her slider half way up the lines. It was boring although I obviously have many easy-to-amuse friends who told me I didnt know what I was talking about.
I thought I was the only one. I switched off after the "Queen" parachuted in, with her slider half way up the lines. It was boring although I obviously have many easy-to-amuse friends who told me I didnt know what I was talking about.
How dare a slider snivel with the Queen! :D
Guymullins
07-30-2012, 09:13
How dare a slider snivel with the Queen! :D
She got her pantaloons in a knot.
The Reaper
07-30-2012, 17:34
I thought I was the only one. I switched off after the "Queen" parachuted in, with her slider half way up the lines. It was boring although I obviously have many easy-to-amuse friends who told me I didnt know what I was talking about.
Looks like several end cell closures as well.
Pump those lines, baby!
TR
It did not take long for the charges to start to fly regarding doping. It's too bad that everything has to be suspect when it comes to world class athletic competition.
Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen smashed world record by a second and her own personal best by five seconds
Coach John Leonard said history suggested doping could be involved
Called feat 'impossible' and said tests would prove if she had taken drugs
Swam last 50m faster than U.S. champion Ryan Lochte in the men's finals
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181121/Ye-Shiwen-US-attacks-China-drugs-row-supergirl-swimmer.html#ixzz229YVgM8W
It did not take long for the charges to start to fly regarding doping. It's too bad that everything has to be suspect when it comes to world class athletic competition.
Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen smashed world record by a second and her own personal best by five seconds
Coach John Leonard said history suggested doping could be involved
Called feat 'impossible' and said tests would prove if she had taken drugs
Swam last 50m faster than U.S. champion Ryan Lochte in the men's finals
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181121/Ye-Shiwen-US-attacks-China-drugs-row-supergirl-swimmer.html#ixzz229YVgM8W
Adrenalin is a powerful drug. Might be she just kicked harder one time.
Stargazer
07-31-2012, 17:58
http://www.london2012.com/news/articles/hancock-retains-skeet-title.html#.UBhYodvS_Pk.facebook
The 23-year-old from Columbus, Georgia, added the gold medal to the one he won four years ago at Beijing, becoming the first Skeet shooter to win back-to-back titles.
Hancock also broke his own Olympic record, missing just two shots and firing a perfect 25 in the final to register 148.
:lifter
Trending on Twitter.
#nbcfail (https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/%23nbcfail)
It did not take long for the charges to start to fly regarding doping. It's too bad that everything has to be suspect when it comes to world class athletic competition.
Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen smashed world record by a second and her own personal best by five seconds
Coach John Leonard said history suggested doping could be involved
Called feat 'impossible' and said tests would prove if she had taken drugs
Swam last 50m faster than U.S. champion Ryan Lochte in the men's finals
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181121/Ye-Shiwen-US-attacks-China-drugs-row-supergirl-swimmer.html#ixzz229YVgM8W
It should be suspect in my opinion. The Chinese have a history of doping when it comes to swimming. The fact that a 16 year old girl could put out a split faster than a mid-20's male during his peak performance should be looked into, IMO.
If it comes out she was able to do it on her own, good on her. If she was from any other country than China, I don't think you would be hearing the charges you are hearing. The Chinese have done this to themselves with their actions of the past.
Who isn't winning: the American viewing audience
Speak for yourself. I'm enjoying the hell out of the games...it's all in your choice of score card. :cool:
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Opening ceremony was boring IMHO. I changed the channel along with 5 other people. I kept coming back and forth tho.
I agree, and the illuminated baby was just...creepy.
The coverage by NBC sucks. I'd really like to see more events besides swimming, diving and gymnastics.
Let's face it; London just wasn't ready for the Olympics. ;)
US takes Gold in Female 50 meter small bore.
greenberetTFS
08-05-2012, 20:15
Olympic Medal Taxes.......:eek:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/olympics.asp
Big Teddy :munchin
Badger52
08-08-2012, 05:37
USA in the final. I'll go out on a limb and predict a couple of medals for TeamUSA.
:D
Volleyball
Women's
http://london2012.bbc.co.uk/volleyball/event/women/index.html
US vs Korea & Brazil vs Japan
Men's? US has to get by Italy.
Water polo - the US is doing OK so far.
The women are really raking in the medals.
Just sayin'
:D
Let's hear it for US women's soccer! Made me about lose my mind the whole tournament. Alex Morgan is a phenom. They need to learn how to finish a game. Holy shit, hold onto the damn ball.
Badger52
08-10-2012, 13:30
The women are really raking in the medals.
Just sayin'
:DWater polo now too. USA beats AUS in women's basketball, now to face France. Regular women's volleyball now USA v. Brazil.
So, yeah, you can "Just sayin'" all ya want ma'am. :lifter
I tend just to focus on the athletic performances (vs. the Costas-type stuff) when the bride & I actually watch TV. There's been some pretty awesome cases of reaching down inside to get something extra. Good stuff.
Water polo now too. USA beats AUS in women's basketball, now to face France. Regular women's volleyball now USA v. Brazil.
So, yeah, you can "Just sayin'" all ya want ma'am. :lifter
I tend just to focus on the athletic performances (vs. the Costas-type stuff) when the bride & I actually watch TV. There's been some pretty awesome cases of reaching down inside to get something extra. Good stuff.
:D
I apologize but I cannot remember the name of the US runner who completed his portion of a relay on a broken leg. Unreal.
Badger52
08-12-2012, 06:41
:D
I apologize but I cannot remember the name of the US runner who completed his portion of a relay on a broken leg. Unreal.This fellow? (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=oly&id=8251806)
"I was doing my job," Mitchell said. "But probably at 201 meters, I heard it and I felt it."
He credited something more than simple adrenaline for pushing him the rest of the way around the track.
"Faith, focus, finish. Faith, focus, finish. That's the only thing I could say to myself," he said.
Congrads to the American Team!
Great prude!
Olympics 2012: Medal Count Proves US Is Still Most Dominant Athletic Country
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1294855-olympics-2012-medal-count-proves-us-is-still-most-dominant-athletic-country
"The 2012 London Olympic Games have officially come to a close and, once again, the U.S. sits atop the medal count.
In Beijing they did the same thing, but the host nation China made it interesting. America topped the Chinese by 10 in the overall medal count, but China earned 15 more gold medals than America—China had 51 and the U.S. had 36.................."
But not this time - Way to go Team USA!
....... Can you imagine what kind of able bodied athlete would protest against a double amputee competing against him?
Karma is a real bitch sometimes. For crossover running He was forced to run on his Olympic blades.
Oscar Pistorius angry at shock Paralympics 200m loss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/sep/03/paralympics-oscar-pistorius-angry-loss
"..............The twist in the story is that it is the very fact Pistorius wants to run in the Olympics and other able-bodied competitions that cost him here.
To do crossover like that, he can only run on blades that have been cleared for use by the IAAF, the sport's governing body. Longer blades, of the kind Oliveira used, are only legal in Paralympic events.
If Pistorius switched, he would not be able to run in non-disabled competitions. Besides which, he would undermine his own argument that his success is about the body above the knee, rather than the technology below it. In a sense, he is a victim of his own ambition. ...................."