No More NCSI ??

[JJ_BPK]

Looks like the USMC is trying to save H/C by creating jobs..


Marine Corps creates law enforcement battalions

By JULIE WATSON
Associated Press
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CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) -- The Marine Corps has created its first law enforcement battalions - a lean, specialized force of military police officers that it hopes can quickly deploy worldwide to help investigate crimes from terrorism to drug trafficking and train fledgling security forces in allied nations.

The Corps activated three such battalions last month. Each is made up of roughly 500 military police officers and dozens of dogs. The Marine Corps has had police battalions off and on since World War II but they were primarily focused on providing security, such as accompanying fuel convoys or guarding generals on visits to dangerous areas, said Maj. Jan Durham, commander of the 1st Law Enforcement Battalion at Camp Pendleton.

The idea behind the law enforcement battalions is to consolidate the military police and capitalize on their investigative skills and police training, he said. The new additions come as every branch in the military is trying to show its flexibility and resourcefulness amid defense cuts.

Marines have been increasingly taking on the role of a street cop along with their combat duties over the past decade in Iraq and Afghanistan, where they have been in charge of training both countries' security forces. Those skills now can be used as a permanent part of the Marine Corps, Durham said.

continued.. (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MARINES_LAW_ENFORCEMENT_BATTALION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-07-22-17-33-46)



Or is BHO going to issue an EO to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C. § 1385)

:munchin

[ZonieDiver]

Looks like the USMC is trying to save H/C by creating jobs..



Or is BHO going to issue an EO to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C. § 1385)

:munchin

<In my best John Wayne drawl> "Well, he'll need more than 3 battalions of jarheads, pilgrim.":D

[Gold Eagle]

I've read U.S.M.C. does not fall under Posse Comitatus Act. Haven't done research on that statement yet. With the Executive Orders coming out by the hundreds, more surveillance, more control. The lists too long for me to remember or write.

Is there a storm coming? :confused:

[Gold Eagle]

Quick research this morning:

http://www.billslinksandmore.com/Billsblog/2010/01/22/obama-executive-order-13528-subverts-posse-comitatus-act-of-1878/

On January 11, 2010, President Obama signed Executive Order (EO) 13528 (PDF) — right after the over-hyped Flight 253 ‘terrorist’ attack, the fraudulently engineered Swine Flu pandemic and a few other man-made disasters — that, among other things, establishes a Council of Governors, chosen by the President who, as noted by the Intel Daily, will rubber-stamp long-sought-after Pentagon contingency plans to seize control of state National Guard forces in the event of a ‘National Emergency.’


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act


This article is about the Posse Comitatus Act in the United States. For other uses of posse comitatus, see Posse comitatus (disambiguation).

The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385

, original at 20 Stat. 152

) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies in using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it simply requires that any authority to do so must exist with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress. In this way, most use of the Army and the Air Force at the direction of the President does not offend the statute, even though it may be problematic for political reasons.

The statute only addresses the US Army and, since 1956, the US Air Force. It does not refer to, and thus does not restrict or apply to, the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor (in its federal capacity, the National Guard forms part of the Army or Air Force of the United States). The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive (self-regulation), but not by the Act itself.[1][2] Although it is a military force,[3] the U.S. Coast Guard, which now operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

[Badger52]

The Army already has MP units that focus on different missions, e.g., LE, Confinement, Force Protection, etc. Maybe this was reverse MARPAT envy. Does this mean Gibbs' TDY budget has been slashed?

Gold Eagle: Fed forces have to be asked in by the state, the PCA was created originally by the Fed to help the Fed avoid becoming embroiled unnecessarily in state matters. (It's found at time to have more holes than a collander but imo something that might give the Guv pause before acting domestically in an intra-state matter is a good thing.)

Couple additions for your research:
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/cc/baker1.html
http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/posse%20comit.htm
A monograph you may find interesting (http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA403866).
Another viewpoint of this study postulates that during the conception of the U.S. Constitution, the power of the federal government was habitually associated with the threat of tyranny within the same axiom that associated military power with tyranny. As North American political culture has evolved, the fear of tyranny from a central government has faded somewhat, but the same axiom of military tyranny remains. Very simply, perhaps many in America still fear direct military involvement in domestic affairs.Of course the above was written Academic Year 01-02, wonder how he'd word an Epilogue 10 years downstream...

[Richard]

What is "NCSI"??? :confused:

As far as MP Bns go - sounds like an MP unit commanded by an MP Officer filled with MPs doing typical MP stuff like the 503rd MP Bn at Bragg or the 716th MP Bn at Campbell or the 91st MP Bn at Drum or the 385th MP Bn at Stewart. :rolleyes:

'Bout time they got organized...or maybe they needed a few more command slots to try and keep some of their Officers.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Major Jan R. Duhram

1st Law Enforcement Battalion Commanding Officer

Major Jan R. Durham graduated from Brigham Young University and was commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant in December 1995. After graduating from The Basic School in August 1996 he performed on-the-job training at the Provost Marshal's Office (PMO), Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia while awaiting orders to his MOS school. He graduated the Military Police Officer Basic Course, Fort McClellan, Alabama in February 1997 and was assigned to Okinawa, Japan for duty. From 1997 to 2000 he was assigned to the Provost Marshal's Office, MCB Camp Butler and served as Military Police Commander, Camp Kinser; Military Police Commander, MCAS Futenma; and Assistant PMO Operations Officer. During this tour of duty he served twice as the primary translator for Marine forces participating in the bilateral US/Japan Exercise Forest Light 1997 and 1998.

From 2000 to 2002 he served as the Deputy Provost Marshal, Marine Air Ground Task Force Training Command, 29 Palms, California. He graduated from the Military Police Captain Career Course, Fort Leonardwood, Missouri in 2002. From 2002 to 2005 he was assigned to the 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit as the Anti-terrorism/Force Protection Officer and made two deployments to Iraq.
In 2005 he was assigned as the Security Officer, Marine Helicopter Squadron - One, Quantico, Virginia where he served until 2008 when he was assigned as a student to the Naval War College, Newport, Rhode Island. Following his graduation with Highest Distinction as Honor Graduate he was assigned to the Joint Staff, Washington D.C. from 2009 to 2012 where he worked on the Secretary of Defense directed Senior Integration Group charged with speeding the delivery of counter-IED capabilities to theater.

He reported for duty as Commanding Officer, 1st Law Enforcement Battalion in February 2012.

Major Durham holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Japanese from Brigham Young University and a Masters of Arts degree in National Security and Strategic Studies from the Naval War College.

[Gold Eagle]

Thank you Badger52. I will look into the links.

[Inflexible Six]

It seems redundant to units/agencies already tasked. But then again I also thought Det One/MARSOC sounded redundant when first announced, a kneejerk for the Corps to be a SOCOM player.

I also remember the flap over BHO's proposal of a National Police Force, but I don't know if I'm quite ready to believe that USMC MP Bns are going to be the fruit of that idea...Maybe in 4 years I'll know.