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Pete
06-01-2012, 04:43
The Cable News Nightmare: CNN (and Piers Morgan) in audience crisis

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/the-cable-news-nightmare-cnn-and-piers-morgan-in-audience-crisis-7808466.html

Viewers are turning off in droves, lured by brash rivals and popularity of internet news sources

I will say I pretty much watched CNN from when it first started. CNN International was on 24/7 at the Company HQ when we were in Kuwait. I watched the slow roll chase of OJ's white Bronco while over there. But into the late 90's I started to grit my teeth at their reporting style. I had noticed the tilt to the left. So this is how they see it?

"............"The biggest problem is inherent in their brand. They are trying to stick to old-fashioned, unbiased news broadcasting when their rivals have worked out that to draw an audience when there aren't major stories breaking you need to do the opposite."......................."

If they can't see the problem then they will never be able to fix it.

Now remember there is a difference between the News Programs and the Political Commentary/Opinion shows. I am just looking at the News shows.

Most aware folks have a good handle on the day's news from the internet by the time it shows up on the evening news. Being aware of the details of a story allow you to watch how it is presented - and what is left out. It's then that you see how the news can slant a story. And CNN only slants one way.

Ret10Echo
06-01-2012, 04:59
What's that quote from Curly Bill?..... "Well, Bye"

The networks can't act fast enough to beat what I can get from an "Always-on" news aggregator on a mobile device. Unbiased??!!
The networks have chosen to polarize and I'm hopeful that beyond the timeliness of information that the silent majority are just becoming tired of the rhetoric and voting with their "remote"...

More realistically...they are just watching TMZ becuase the sheeple think that is news.

Flagg
06-01-2012, 05:20
I agree with speed being an issue with TV news having trouble keeping up with the speed of internet light.

But I also see it as a problems of media consolidation.

Far more media distribution channels in print/radio/tv today than 20 years ago, but the number of media owners has shrunk considerably.

To me the actual news value and variety has crashed.

And to top it off news channels gets paid for the eyeballs they collect so they are motivated by the promotion of fear and rage. Zimmerman case in point.

I get my news by subscription on the net.

Free news advise is often worth less than nothing.

CNBC around 99-00 did it for me.

Richard
06-01-2012, 06:03
CNN - ChiCom News Network - I have not watched those SOBs since they did their "TAILWIND: Valley of Death" piece which accused SF of knowingly using nerve agents to kill US POWs being held in Laos. :mad: :mad:

As Macarthur said when he left Corregidor, "Bye."

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

JJ_BPK
06-01-2012, 06:11
If you look at what has happened to the "cooking" shows over the last 20 years, you can see a parallel path. The cooking shows being 15 years ahead of the news.


At one time it was good cooks with good food.
Then the show had to have a theme like Italian or French
Then they needed atmosphere, like outdoor BBQ's
Then the cooks had to have "personality", Watch Giada De Laurentiis??
Then they said why pay one cook, when we can visit restaurants, get free meals, and act as an industry PR show. AKA: Diners, Drivings, & Dives
Then they decided COMPETITION was the deal, pit one cook against another, and Reality Cooking is borne.
The latest cooking shows are a collection of really weird stand-up comics that can read a teleprompter with receipts. Have you seen Nadia G or Sweat Genius??


It's competition for the ratings and the news is no exception. Look no further than Katie Couric and our buddy MY.

It may not sound correct, but we have reality news shows that don't have news...

Add the cable and Sat TV with a bazillion channel bandwidth,, it will never end..

Lose ratings and DIE...

Don
06-01-2012, 06:29
I heard about the Sununu/Soledad interview on CNN this morning, so I pulled it up. I watched it on a website not affiliated with CNN. The gist of the exchange is, CNN is in Obamas pocket. CNN wants to keep pushing the "birther" argument while Romney publicly said he believes Obama was born in the US. It is 3:27 minutes of Sununu grabbing her by the neck and shaking her like a terrier shakes a rat. Now, not that the video itself was good enough to make a point about CNNs bias...I went to the CNN website and Under the very same video clip was the headline "Former Gov. Sununu: Donald Trump Is Wrong.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/30/former-gov-sununu-donald-trump-is-wrong/

Pete
06-01-2012, 06:43
I heard about the Sununu/Soledad interview on CNN this morning, so I pulled it up........................

That was too funny - any other news corp would say she was spanked.

From the link "....Former New Hampshire Governor John Sununu and CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien discuss media coverage of the 'birther' story. Sununu, a Mitt Romney surrogate, says that Donald Trump is wrong on the issue, while O’Brien asks why Romney won’t go further and point this out about one of his donors......"

How you present the news says more about you than what you say about yourself.

Would CCN list an Obama supporter as "Clinton, an Obama surrogate,..."?

hooah12
06-01-2012, 07:50
To call CNN a joke is an understatement of epic proportions. I have worked as a reporter and kept my political bias out of it, they should be able to do the same.

The title, subtitle, and description of the story set the tone of a story and it pushes a lot of the bias to the left or right, but at the very least they could choose something that is, oh I don't know, accurate maybe? And they would probably list Clinton as "American hero," "the one and only," or "that bitch." Well that last one may actually be my description, but whatever.

America's news media doesn't even know what is news anymore.

Team Sergeant
06-01-2012, 10:35
CNN - ChiCom News Network - I have not watched those SOBs since they did their "TAILWIND: Valley of Death" piece which accused SF of knowingly using nerve agents to kill US POWs being held in Laos. :mad: :mad:

As Macarthur said when he left Corregidor, "Bye."

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

I too stopped watching CNN since the lies they told about the Tailwind event.

CNN lost all credibility after that and they have been in decline ever since. I will laugh once they and MSNBC go off the air.