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Don
05-17-2012, 12:47
Hey,

Just a little fuel for the birthers in here. Breitbart lives...

"Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


Man, it's been a busy news day. First Donna Summer, now this.

Richard
05-17-2012, 13:00
This is one of the most worrisome traits BHO has which has always bothered me - and which makes him the consummate political skunk. :mad:
The errant Obama biography in the Acton & Dystel booklet does not contradict the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Moreover, several contemporaneous accounts of Obama’s background describe Obama as having been born in Hawaii.

The biography does, however, fit a pattern in which Obama--or the people representing and supporting him--manipulate his public persona.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

rdret1
05-17-2012, 13:15
This is one of the most worrisome traits BHO has which has always bothered me - and which makes him the consummate political skunk. :mad:


And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Because of that, I feel we will never know the real truth of the matter. I do not consider myself a "birther," however there are enough inconsistencies out there that I would not be surprised at anything. The one thing I do know, he makes Jimmy Carter look like George Washington.

longrange1947
05-17-2012, 14:07
The dim(wits) always claim, "where there is smoke", well there is so much smoke around Obama that you cannot "see him clearly now".

glebo
05-17-2012, 16:39
The dim(wits) always claim, "where there is smoke", well there is so much smoke around Obama that you cannot "see him clearly now".

Well, where there's smoke...there's deception...

kinda learned that somewhere....;)

Dusty
05-17-2012, 18:35
Ask any Kenyan where he's from.

lol The First Black, Gay, Foreign President.

Ambush Master
05-17-2012, 19:14
Because of that, I feel we will never know the real truth of the matter. I do not consider myself a "birther," however there are enough inconsistencies out there that I would not be surprised at anything. The one thing I do know, he makes Jimmy Carter look like George Washington.

Like I've been say'n, he makes Carter look like REAGAN!!!

Later
Martin

bjm300
05-17-2012, 20:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

More smoke there...

Sarski
05-17-2012, 21:40
This will never be fully resolved. It can't be. It would indicate a complete failure of the system (even though it already is, but to admit it is another facet), and how easily we as a country were decieved, not by just one man, but the MSM, and politicians from all sides.

No one wants to admit this kind of mistake...a null and void presidency. What do we do? A do over? Can't be done, and the damage is extensive. No one will step up in this case, no group, or body of individuals accepting fault; no one left holding the bag and taking responsibility for this mistake, oversight, slip up, whatever it is.

No one to hold accountable, no one to dismiss from their job, which is what we would normally do when grave mistakes of this nature are made in the corporate and/or job world. It could never happen this way, we as a country, are too smart for that, right?

abc_123
05-18-2012, 04:27
The other good one is accusation of a forged, selective service registration.

Hand
05-18-2012, 06:30
Its interesting to see that only non mainstream media is running with this, and that the author of this particular story accuses Google of running interference for the administration (by choice?).

This is a bit idealistic, but if proven in court, would his lack of citizenship nullify everything he's signed while in office?

Source HERE (http://www.infowars.com/ap-declared-obama-kenyan-born/).

The AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.
The difficulty in finding this gem of a story is hampered by Google, which is running flak for Obama: because if you search for “Kenyan-born US Senate” you wont find it, but if you search for the phrase without quotes you will find links which talk about it.

Richard
05-18-2012, 07:06
So the Hawaiian State Govt lied about his birth certificate? I seriously doubt it.

However, did BHO play the minority card by either lying or allowing a researcher's mistake* made by the publishing staff to stand in that publishing bio in an attempt to gain an edge over others being represented by the publishers? I seriously think he did.

BHO - the consummate political animal - a narcissistic polecat who switches his spots or stipes to further himself whenever necessary.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

* He and his Kenyan father are both named Barack Obama.

Dusty
05-18-2012, 07:37
BHO - the consummate political animal - a narcissistic polecat who switches his spots or stipes to further himself whenever necessary.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin



A polecat who wouldn't be anywhere without a left-wing media system to mask the stench.

koz
05-18-2012, 07:50
So the Hawaiian State Govt lied about his birth certificate? I seriously doubt it.

Richard.

Gov't lie? They'd never do that. :rolleyes:

rubberneck
05-18-2012, 08:28
So the Hawaiian State Govt lied about his birth certificate? I seriously doubt it.

However, did BHO play the minority card by either lying or allowing a researcher's mistake* made by the publishing staff to stand in that publishing bio in an attempt to gain an edge over others being represented by the publishers? I seriously think he did.

BHO - the consummate political animal - a narcissistic polecat who switches his spots or stipes to further himself whenever necessary.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

* He and his Kenyan father are both named Barack Obama.

I dunno, if someone made reference to me not being a natural born citizen when I indeed was during a political debate my response wouldn't be "so what". It would probably be f-you buddy I was born and raised in Hawaii. I suppose he could have been playing up the immigrant success story line for political reasons but I don't get why anyone would allow the mischaracterization of their citizenship status stand.

Furthermore, at the time of the debate with Keyes there was public speculation of him running for President somewhere down the road after serving some time in the Senate. As a Constitutional "scholar" I'm sure he was well aware of the fact that he needed to be a Natural born citizen to run for the office and yet he blew off the accusation by only saying that it didn't matter because he wasn't running for President. It's just odd.....

Dusty
05-18-2012, 08:38
I It's just odd.....


So's this:

Just another example of chicanery.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/17/author-shares-tape-interview-with-wright-claiming-was-offered-money-to-stay/


In a recorded interview, a man identified as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright claimed that an associate of President Obama, through an intermediary, offered him money to stop preaching during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Portions of that interview with writer Edward Klein were aired Wednesday night on Fox News' "Hannity." Klein provided access to the tape to back up claims he makes in his book on Obama, "The Amateur."

In one interview clip, Wright told Klein he still has "an email offering me money not to preach at all between the explosion of the media in the first week in March and (the) November election."

Wright said the email came from "one of his friends." Asked if that individual was Eric Whitaker, a longtime friend of Obama, Wright said, "Yeah."

In another clip, Wright explained that the email was not sent directly from Whitaker, though he claimed Whitaker was the one who signed it. He said Whitaker sent the email to a member of the church "who sent it to me."

Klein teed up one other clip in which Wright was supposedly talking about a request from Obama when he was still a candidate.

"He came to talk to me and said the same thing (Whitaker's email said) ... 'I really wish you would not do any more public speaking until November,'" he said.

Whitaker is now vice president at the University of Chicago Medical Center.

The White House has downplayed Wright's latest statements, questioning Klein's credibility.

"The book that is the foundation (of the claims) is not one that I would read because I know that the author lacks ... a certain amount of credibility," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Thursday.

He said he hasn't listened to the interview in question.

"Some of these issues were featured ... in the 2008 campaign, much discussed," Carney said. "Right now, in 2012, we're focused on what the American people are focused on -- jobs, the economy, issues of national security."

Wright's name also re-emerged this week over a reported plan to invoke his controversial sermons in anti-Obama ads. The conservative billionaire supposedly behind the ad, though, distanced himself from the plan Thursday and said through an aide it would not be moving forward.

Snip

rubberneck
05-18-2012, 08:46
I'd give my arm to take a look at the President's application for admission to Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Every college application that I've seen asks the applicant for their place of birth. The same goes for financial aid forms. It would be curious to see if he listed Hawaii or Kenya as his place of birth on those forms. If it's always been Hawaii then it's reasonable to assume that the Kenya narrative was always political theater but if he listed Kenya as his place of birth......

It's too bad that all the records associated with his education haven't been released to the public.

Dusty
05-18-2012, 08:51
I'd give my arm to take a look at the President's application for admission to Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Every college application that I've seen asks the applicant for their place of birth. The same goes for financial aid forms. It would be curious to see if he listed Hawaii or Kenya as his place of birth on those forms. If it's always been Hawaii then it's reasonable to assume that the Kenya narrative was always political theater but if he listed Kenya as his place of birth......

It's too bad that all the records associated with his education haven't been released to the public.

That's because the press covers for his ass. Not saying anything that isn't glaringly evident, but the problem with this Country stems from an ingratiating, kowtowing, leftist media who facilitates this type of misleading bullshit, and is exacerbated by tenured hippie freak and offspring-of-hippie freak educators.

Dusty
05-18-2012, 09:30
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/

BOfH
05-21-2012, 15:34
The not-so covering coverup...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/21/if-obamas-false-claim-of-kenyan-birth-was-just-a-fact-checking-error-why-did-it-take-over-15-years-to-fact-check-it/

greenberetTFS
05-27-2012, 10:17
Need proof,here it is.............:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

Hand
05-31-2012, 06:15
And now, only two days after Romney receives the Republican nomination, BAM! We have a copy of his birth certificate. Where the %$#@$^ was ANY scrutiny, at all, of the anointed one in 08? I truly believe that it was the MSM that got Obama elected (via the fingers of their thoughtless viewers).

LINK (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/29/us-usa-campaign-romney-birth-certificate-idUSBRE84S1GF20120529)

Dusty
05-31-2012, 06:36
And now, only two days after Romney receives the Republican nomination, BAM! We have a copy of his birth certificate. Where the %$#@$^ was ANY scrutiny, at all, of the anointed one in 08? I truly believe that it was the MSM that got Obama elected (via the fingers of their thoughtless viewers).

LINK (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/29/us-usa-campaign-romney-birth-certificate-idUSBRE84S1GF20120529)

Screw me once, shame on you.

Richard
05-31-2012, 06:37
And now, only two days after Romney receives the Republican nomination, BAM! We have a copy of his birth certificate.

FWIW - that's not a copy of a birth certificate but, as with BHO, a certification of birth record information on file with the state.

In case I ever get a case of the red chapped @$$ while drunk and decide to run for public office or join the Coast Guard, I do have copies of my original birth certificate (one of those old copy things - attchd) which have been kept in our personal family records. My wife was born in Michigan and they issued her one of those old black fiche-copied copy's of her original birth certificate (attchd) which is much different than the certification shown in the link about Romney. I'm not sure they issue such copies any more, though, and suspect somebody would claim it's fraudulent because they've never seen one like it before. ;)

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Dusty
05-31-2012, 06:56
FWIW - that's not a copy of a birth certificate but, as with BHO, a certification of birth record information on file with the state.

In case I ever get a case of the red chapped @$$ while drunk and decide to run for public office or join the Coast Guard, I do have copies of my original birth certificate
Richard :munchin

Papyrus or stone? :D

Richard
05-31-2012, 07:13
Papyrus or stone? :D

Vellum. I think Teddy's is in clay and BMT's is papyrus. :D :D

MR2
05-31-2012, 09:40
My guess the real reason for obstinance in submitting real copies of the Presidents original birth certificate have to do with some politically incorrect, if not just inconvenient info.

Such as probably listing of the baby's race as Caucasian instead of Negro - let alone the most probably fraudulent listing of Black.

Can't get beyond the race issue if no one is willing to address it beyond just yelling false charges of racism at everyone.

The ongoing history of recalcitrance and pertinaciousness, let alone basic honesty and transparency is most troubling from anyone of prominence - especially someone who is a trained (former) lawyer, a former US Senator, and current President of the United States!

Dusty
05-31-2012, 09:52
My guess the real reason for obstinance in submitting real copies of the Presidents original birth certificate have to do with some politically incorrect, if not just inconvenient info.

Such as probably listing of the baby's race as Caucasian instead of Negro - let alone the most probably fraudulent listing of Black.

Can't get beyond the race issue if no one is willing to address it beyond just yelling false charges of racism at everyone.

The ongoing history of recalcitrance and pertinaciousness, let alone basic honesty and transparency is most troubling from anyone of prominence - especially someone who is a trained (former) lawyer, a former US Senator, and current President of the United States!

Concur on all points.
Bright side is that in 150-something days the problems won't seem as urgent.

Badger52
05-31-2012, 11:06
...pertinaciousness...I feel like Clint Eastwood with 'panache' from "In the Line of Fire" - "Really...? I had to look it up."
:cool:

That's a cracker-jack word you've got there.
Thanks.

PRB
05-31-2012, 12:09
I don't know that Obama even knows where he was born.
I suspect that, regardless of the truth, he enjoyed the notoriety of being a 'foreign born' black. remember back in the 70's/80's that Dashiki thing and for some reason real African blacks were celebrated within the black community.
Could be why he played that role.
I aslo suspect our good President went to college on a foreign student ticket for reduced rates and /or scholorship...and that's why those records are sealed.