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Dusty
04-25-2012, 08:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc

Stargazer
04-25-2012, 09:12
I find that to be a powerful video which I am passing on to family and friends. Thank you.

DJ Urbanovsky
04-25-2012, 09:25
Outstanding, Dusty.

MtnGoat
04-25-2012, 09:50
Great video, thanks for the link & post Dusty

tonyz
04-25-2012, 10:01
Thanks for posting that.

:lifter

Solar
04-25-2012, 11:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc

It appears the amount of views have been freezed by YouTube. I hope I'm wrong.

Dusty
04-25-2012, 11:34
It appears the amount of views have been freezed by YouTube. I hope I'm wrong.

Just played for me...

PSM
04-25-2012, 11:39
Just played for me...

He means that the count seems to be frozen a 517,844. ;)

Pat

SF_BHT
04-25-2012, 11:41
Great Video....... Thanks Dusty...

Richard
04-25-2012, 11:45
Like high-wire walking across the Grand Canyon amidst swirling political winds - the requirement remains to strike an appropriate balance.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Dusty
04-25-2012, 11:53
Like high-wire walking across the Grand Canyon amidst swirling political winds - the requirement remains to strike an appropriate balance.

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

lol Are those your words, or are you quoting Neville Chamberlain? :munchin

Richard
04-25-2012, 12:44
...or are you quoting Neville Chamberlain?

But another unsupported rumor worthy of a Fox News special report...

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Solar
04-25-2012, 13:03
Just played for me...

He means that the count seems to be frozen a 517,844. ;)

Pat

Precisely.

Dusty
04-25-2012, 13:27
Precisely.

I see.

Badger52
04-25-2012, 13:49
He means that the count seems to be frozen a 517,844. ;)

PatAn interesting campaign contribution comparison weblink (on the #1 primo WI mouthpiece) had an unfixable a/b setup as to what the visitor gets upon initial entry. Most people spend a couple seconds, grasp the initial impression, ignore that there is a drop-down allowing apples v. apples, and move on to something requiring less critical thought. The default a/b compared the least-resourced Dem challenger's bankroll to the current Gov and, on his side, the drop-down was stuck at the overall assets of the Republican National Party. No matter what one did to actually select apples v. apples, upon revisit to the website, it was reset to that default. So she's made to appear more noble than the evil incumbent with all the un-redistributed wealth below his picture.

This stuff gets done; small people in the background manipulate all kinds of stuff in the age of openness. Maybe someone didn't want it to exceed the latest honey badger vid...

GratefulCitizen
04-25-2012, 14:28
Calls to consume less only present half of what they really mean.
The real message is: consume less, but keep your production steady or increasing.

Guess who intends to pocket the difference.

Dusty
04-25-2012, 15:09
Calls to consume less only present half of what they really mean.
The real message is: consume less, but keep your production steady or increasing.

Guess who intends to pocket the difference.



"the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, especially the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society."

The state?

Richard
04-25-2012, 15:49
"the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, especially the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society."

The state?

Und Gott sei Dank wirst du uns alle zu retten! :rolleyes:

"The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it." --H. L. Mencken (1880-1956)

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

BOfH
04-25-2012, 15:57
Thanks for the post, QP Dusty! Speaking of dismantling this country's energy sector:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/inhofe-to-investigate-epa-officials-crucify-them-approach-to-oil-companies/

Oklahoma Republican Sen. James Inhofe took to the Senate floor Wednesday to announce an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency’s “crucify them” enforcement strategy to keep oil and gas producers in line.

Inhofe, the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, highlighted a recently discovered 2010 speech by Obama-appointed Region 6 EPA Administrator Al Armendariz, in which the EPA official described the agency’s enforcement philosophy.

“Oil and gas is an enforcement priority, it’s one of seven, so we are going to spend a fair amount of time looking at oil and gas production. And I gave — I was in a meeting once and I gave an analogy to my staff about my philosophy of enforcement, and I think it was probably a little crude and maybe not appropriate for the meeting but I’ll go ahead and tell you what I said,” said Armendariz, according to Inhofe.

“It was kind of like how the Romans used to conquer little villages in the Mediterranean. They’d go into a little Turkish town somewhere, they’d find the first five guys they saw and they’d crucify them,” Inhofe quoted Armendariz saying. “And then you know that town was really easy to manage for the next few years. And so you make examples out of people who are in this case not compliant with the law. Find people who are not compliant with the law, and you hit them as hard as you can and you make examples out of them, and there is a deterrent effect there.”

Inhofe said Armendariz’s words offer a “rare glimpse” into the Obama administration’s mindset, and pointed to examples of the EPA allegedly employing the strategy against natural gas producers in Parker County, Texas, Pavilion, Wyoming, and Dimock, Pennsylvania.

“In all three of these cases, before these investigations were complete, EPA made headline-grabbing statements either insinuating or proclaiming that hydraulic fracturing was the cause of water contamination,” he said, according to prepared comments, explaining in all three instances the agency later walk back their proclamations quietly.

The Oklahoma senator is launching an oversight investigation into the EPA’s handling of the three cases through the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works.

“Against the backdrop of recent events, and Administrator Armendariz’s admission that EPA is out to crucify natural gas companies, it’s clear that EPA did not base these three studies on sound science or engage in the proper scientific process; the agency has been using questionable authorities while usurping the rightful regulatory authority of states,” he said announcing the investigation Wednesday. “EPA clearly went through with these investigations based on preconceived conclusions with the explicit goal of tying potential environmental harms to hydraulic fracturing.”

Inhofe sent a 16 question letter to EPA administrator Lisa Jackson Wednesday quizzing the agency on its handling of the aforementioned Parker County, Texas case — in which the EPA issued an emergency order against the Range Resources drilling company for methane contamination in water wells only to quietly reverse their decision 15 months later.

“EPA needs to be held accountable,” Inhofe said on the floor. “The American people deserve to know exactly why EPA pushed ahead with such intensity to capture alarmist headlines, and then, when their investigations didn’t pan out the way they had hoped, they were forced to reverse their claims.”

According to Inhofe, it is imperative that the EPA answers for their apparent hostility to oil, gas and coal producers.

“[T]wo things are clearly incontrovertible,” he concluded. “1) the Obama Administration has done everything it possibly can to destroy domestic production of oil, gas and coal. And 2) the Obama Administration now is successfully carrying out its admitted plan to ‘boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe’ and make energy prices ‘necessarily skyrocket.’ Fortunately for the American people, they have yet to fully achieve their goal and we have got to stop them.”

Dusty
04-25-2012, 16:00
Und Gott sei Dank wirst du uns alle zu retten! :rolleyes:

"The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it." --H. L. Mencken (1880-1956)

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

That's the wirst comeback you've typed so far. :D

Richard
04-25-2012, 16:02
That's the wirst comeback you've typed so far. :D

Yeah - shoulda gone for the wurst, bretzel, und bier (or wein in Stuttgart). :D

The Reaper
04-25-2012, 19:11
Thanks for the post, QP Dusty! Speaking of dismantling this country's energy sector:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/inhofe-to-investigate-epa-officials-crucify-them-approach-to-oil-companies/

The problem is, businesses do not work that way.

You make it too hard, too scary, or too difficult to do business and they either move out of your regulatory area or close.

Eventually, you run out of businesses to intimidate or other people's money to spend.

TR

BOfH
04-25-2012, 22:05
The problem is, businesses do not work that way.

You make it too hard, too scary, or too difficult to do business and they either move out of your regulatory area or close.

Eventually, you run out of businesses to intimidate or other people's money to spend.

TR

QP TR,
MOO: As far as I know, there isn't much outside of the EPA's regulatory reach, and short of closing, the energy sector here in the US doesn't necessarily have the liberty to "up and out" as the oil that they are drilling for is located here. The "up and out" is definitely true with regards to many other businesses that have moved their operations out of heavily regulated states and/or the continental US. Case in point is Goldman Sachs and their new building at 200 West in NYC. While I am no fan of either Bloomberg or GS, I am not necessarily against the 1.65 billion in tax exempt Liberty Bonds[1] that city(Bloomberg)/state gave them as an incentive for building in NYC, GS was looking to get out of the area altogether. While this may line Blankfein and co's pockets, it also ensures that the janitor keeps his job, and with their sprawling new space, they will need to hire more janitors; it also means new clientèle for the surrounding small businesses etc. Essentially capitalism at work, for the most part...

My .002


[1] http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/skyline/2010/05/17/100517crsk_skyline_goldberger?currentPage=all

GratefulCitizen
04-26-2012, 17:36
MOO: As far as I know, there isn't much outside of the EPA's regulatory reach, and short of closing, the energy sector here in the US doesn't necessarily have the liberty to "up and out" as the oil that they are drilling for is located here.

What the "energy sector" possesses is expertise and equipment (intellectual capital and portable capital).
That is what they sell.

Oil and gas are free; it just sits there in the ground.
What gives oil and gas value is extracting from the ground and getting it to market.

Many entities (capital owners, laborers, land owners, taxing sovereigns, etc) have an "interest" in the profit associated with getting it out of the ground and to market.
The government is trying to herd cats and it won't work.

Those with the capital will sell it to whomever gives them the best after-tax compensation.
If our government insists on penalizing their efforts here, they will take their efforts elsewhere.

GratefulCitizen
04-26-2012, 17:44
The state?

They are the ones who intend to pocket the difference, but it doesn't always work that way.

One of the common methods for the state to steal these savings is through financial repression tax techniques.
These work until people take their capital elsewhere.

When capital flight is contained (i.e. IRS harassing foreign banks), domestic capital (via a good credit rating or via crony capitalism) plays the same game and offloads the problem onto those running at their financial redline (the poor).
Eventually, the game blows up into stagflation and has to be fixed.

MOO-the current bunch isn't trying to cause America to fail, they are trying to drum up political support for nationalization of critical industries.

Peregrino
04-26-2012, 19:22
MOO-the current bunch isn't trying to cause America to fail, they are trying to drum up political support for nationalization of critical industries.

The fastest, surest way to guarantee failure.

GratefulCitizen
04-26-2012, 19:47
The fastest, surest way to guarantee failure.
Failure for the people, not those who would rule.

Socialism is for the people, not the socialists.
The ruling elite live pretty well under socialism.

Dusty
04-26-2012, 19:49
Failure for the people, not those who would rule.

Socialism is for the people, not the socialists.
The ruling elite live pretty well under socialism.

That applies to any system of government.

Richard
04-26-2012, 20:14
There may be a lot of sheeple in America, but until the SHTF people tend to forget exactly what kind of sheeple we raise around here...;)

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

Dusty
04-27-2012, 07:06
There may be a lot of sheeple in America, but until the SHTF people tend to forget exactly what kind of sheeple we raise around here...;)

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

You nailed that one smack in the middle of the forehead, Bro.