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Ted Nugent is hitting the pavement for GOP president hopeful Mitt Romney. The rocker called for attendees of the National Rifle Association’s convention to go out and recruit thousands of people to vote for Romney in the coming election. Nugent said, ”Our government is wiping its a– with the Constitution.” During an on-site interview, he also told the crowd, ”We’ve got four Supreme Court justices who don’t believe in the Constitution. Does everybody here know that four of the Supreme Court justices not only determined you don’t have the right to keep and bear arms, four Supreme Court justices signed their name to a declaration that Americans have no fundamental right to self-defense? That sounds like a stoned hippie. That doesn’t sound like a Supreme Court anything.” The musician went on to say: ”If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.” A representative for Nugent didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Ted Nugent is probably getting this off his chest now because he knows that Freedom of Speech wlill likely be the next to come under full attack, errode, and eventually fade away as the O administration rises to supreme power given a second term.
Red Flag 1
04-17-2012, 09:03
"SUPREME POWER"
We'd better hope not, sheeple were lulled to sleep in Europe too, several decades ago. The rest is history; literally. :lifter
And, there in is the obama blue print for America.
RF 1
The Nuge is on a roll. I've been paying > $4.15 a gallon for diesel for over a month already.
NUGENT: Economic kamikaze
Obama risks all by sticking to his guns while nation nose-dives
By Ted Nugent-The Washington TimesMonday, April 16, 2012
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/16/economic-kamikaze/?page=1
Excerpts:
With an election on the horizon, President Obama and his administration are employing age-old political diversionary tactics to keep the American public from focusing on the dismal condition of our economy. Call in a four-alarm fire on the south side while they rob the bank on the north side. Al Capone lives.
With the economic train wreck they have engineered, it’s hard to blame Mr. Obama for his misdirection scramble.
Obama and company’s runaway political spin, sleight-of-hand tricks and smoke-and-mirrors games will only work for so long. Con men who sell snake oil are eventually exposed.
Mr. Obama owns the lingering recession lock, stock and barrel. He can try to blame everybody but the Wizard of Oz, bob and weave, dodge, lie, obfuscate and deflect that reality, but he will win or lose the election based on the economy.
Mr. Obama and his proxies are telling the American public that unemployment is decreasing. Serious people know that’s a sham, pure political snake oil.
The truth is that if the unemployed, those who have given up looking for work, and the underemployed are added together, that number is probably over 20 percent, not the 8.2 percent unemployment rate touted by the Obama administration.
Say what he will in deceptive rants about staving off economic collapse, the truth is that the president’s $800 billion stimulus didn’t stimulate anything except the debt and an increased hue and cry from the bloodsuckers who like being in the liability column of America. Add to that economic suicide ruse the Solyndra scandal and various assorted crony crimes by this administration, and the fundamental transformation via the Cloward-Piven playbook is clearly on the fast track.
There has been little, if any, growth in the private sector during Mr. Obama’s tenure. Small businesses, the engine of our economy, want nothing to do with Mr. Obama’s suicidal vision as evidenced by the fact they are not growing or hiring. Who can blame them?
One in 7 Americans are now on food stamps. This depressing number does not bode well for Mr. Obama.
With more than 20 percent of Americans drowning in economic hard times, many of them have had to foreclose on their homes. One quarter of all mortgages are at risk of foreclosure. Those who lose a job and then lose a home are not a political base any president would want.
Filling up your tank with $3.90-a-gallon gas is painful and ugly. Some are forecasting the price at the pump will rise to $5 or more this summer. Americans would do well to remember the price at the pump has more than doubled since the “the cost of energy will necessarily skyrocket under my policies” president was elected.
There is no economic recovery, Americans are not better off, incomes have not risen. The whole world can see how America’s economy is stuck in the mud. Happy days aren’t even close to being here again.
Even though he inherited a shaky economy, from Day One of his administration the president has run toward the wrong economic end zone and exacerbated our economic problems.
Instead of focusing on sound and proven policies that grow the economy, his economic platform has strangled economic growth.
The president is either clueless about how to get the economy moving again or he believes America will be better off with a European socialist form of government. Saul Alinsky is at the helm.
If the Titanic were sinking today and the president was on board, he would grab a leaky bucket to bail water and claim his bailout policy is saving the ship from sinking.
The world will see in November whether there are more rugged individual producers or more uncaring bloodsuckers in the last, best place. America would do well to stick with New Hampshire’s slogan: “Live free or die.”
Roguish Lawyer
04-17-2012, 09:29
We have to get behind Romney now. Like him or not, there is way too much at stake. Can't let Obama appoint Scalia's successor.
The crux is Obamacare. I'm not saying Romney won't win if it's not thrown out-I believe he will in a landslide-but it will be a sad bell tolling for the current regime if the SCOTUS trashes it.
If the Titanic were sinking today and the president was on board, he would grab a leaky bucket to bail water and claim his bailout policy is saving the ship from sinking.
NO, I think if this were the case, Barry and his crew would accidentally "trip" into the 1st life boat lowered.
They know what they're doing and have their plan in place for their OWN survival. Screw the rest of us. It's all about THEM .... plain and simple.
We have to get behind Romney now. Like him or not, there is way too much at stake. Can't let Obama appoint Scalia's successor.
or Ginsburg's...She's 3 years older and looking kinda rough. Continued health thru 2012 Ms Ginsburg!!
dr. mabuse
04-17-2012, 10:21
Obama would most likely be the one in drag ( burka ) sneaking into the boat. :munchin
I am a little confused as to how the super gun rights supporter Ted, would support Romney. Anyone but Obama is great, but I am fairly certain Romney will en-state a new "Assault Weapons" Ban. He talks about how proud he is all the time about the sign going into Mass. that says "Have a gun, go to jail". There are many serious issues right now and picking battles is certainly important. I just really wish our new "savior", Romney, was not who he is. Not really that impressed with the guy. But in a voting country, I apparently don't have a choice, somehow the minds are already made up, and he will be our new president. Because according to the media, no one else is running....I think Ted is just siding with what everyone else is told to do. For it to come down to, Pick one or the other, is really disappointing.
I am a little confused as to how the super gun rights supporter Ted, would support Romney. Anyone but Obama is great, but I am fairly certain Romney will en-state a new "Assault Weapons" Ban. He talks about how proud he is all the time about the sign going into Mass. that says "Have a gun, go to jail". There are many serious issues right now and picking battles is certainly important. I just really wish our new "savior", Romney, was not who he is. Not really that impressed with the guy. But in a voting country, I apparently don't have a choice, somehow the minds are already made up, and he will be our new president. Because according to the media, no one else is running....I think Ted is just siding with what everyone else is told to do. For it to come down to, Pick one or the other, is really disappointing.
I wouldn't be too sure. I had my doubts about Romney, but as someone on this site who is much smarter than I said: Romney was a Republican Governor in a very liberal state. He had to govern from center left because of that. I don't necessarily think that makes him a RINO. He knows this country is center right (regardless of what the media says) and I think he will govern from such a point.
In the end, all I know is that this country won't survive 4 more years of the courrent POTUS, and still be recognizable as the one we all have stood up for and defended all our lives.
So for all those folks thinking of sitting out because you don't like Romney becasue you don't think he is conservative enough, you will have the blood of this nation on your hands.
So for all those folks thinking of sitting out because you don't like Romney becasue you don't think he is conservative enough, you will have the blood of this nation on your hands.
Nailed.
The Secret Service Says They Are Investigating Ted Nugent’s Threatening Remarks Toward Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/17/465855/secret-service-ted-nugent/
But they are mum on Calypso Louie
You want to be leaders, right, you’re sure, you’re sure,” he said. “You better check yourself because leadership is nothing to play with because people tomorrow maybe in a few days are going to kill their leaders who’ve been selling them out.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/nation-islam-farrakhan-leaders/2012/04/16/id/436045
afchic, you make a very valid point about his time as governor. I can agree with that. Hopefully, no one sits out this election. Thanks for the insight.
afchic, you make a very valid point about his time as governor. I can agree with that. Hopefully, no one sits out this election. Thanks for the insight.
Wish I was that smart ,But it was a QP, go figure:)
Streck-Fu
04-17-2012, 13:19
The Secret Service Says They Are Investigating Ted Nugent’s Threatening Remarks Toward Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/17/465855/secret-service-ted-nugent/
Why? IS Ted in a Colombian whorehouse?
So for all those folks thinking of sitting out because you don't like Romney becasue you don't think he is conservative enough, you will have the blood of this nation on your hands.
That's really one hell of a thing to say.
I've had some QPs tell me some wise things before like you here is one I remember very well but paraphrased. Freedom isn't what we see and think of today. Freedom sometimes steps on your toes but to cancel that out would be to diminish it. If you own a house and your neighbor next to you doesn't mow his lawn and his cars up on blocks that diminishes the value of your house but that's his right to do on his property and you can't take that from him even if it is unpalatable to you.
So if someone doesn't vote or votes third party the blood of the country is on their hands? I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
Unfortunately, in this election cycle - not voting for the republican nominee - IS voting for Obama. For better or worse, this election is really a vote to either fire or re-hire the current occupant of the Oval Office.
Voting for Obama (either by affirmative vote or by omission, or 3rd party, or write-in vote) will take the shackles off the most liberal, big government president in memory. One need look no further than this BB for links to dozens of news stories op-ed pieces and various reports on the damage Obama has caused the country.
With the "flexibility" of a second term...I shudder to think.
We are but one Supreme Court justice nominee from fundamentally transforming this country.
Romney may not be the best we have - but he is all we have. And, he will need every vote he can get.
We can bitch about Romney after the election - if, on the other hand, Obama gets reelected...you can probably expect, among other things, special ammo taxes, magazines limits, evil black rifles...fugetaboutit !
The fact that the motor city madman endorses Romney should be some evidence of what is at stake in the next election - Nugent has spoken to Romney and is convinced that Romney will be less harmful to the 2A than Obama.
In a "normal" election year I suspect Nugent and Romney might not even cross paths.
YMMV
That's really one hell of a thing to say.
I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
The point is that we can no longer afford to speak in terms of "I didn't know" or "I didn't understand", "I don't care" or "we'll just suffer another 4 years and the next one will fix it all". Socialism has us encircled and its gently squeezing the life out of democracy. And, like the unwitting animal caught in the constrictors grasp, it can thrash about and fight for a few breaths, but with each breath the grip gets tighter...
The future of the world will fall on the backs of those who step into the voting both this year.
PS - Its sad that democracy is not unwitting, we have watched this happen, we continue to watch it happen and we do nothing but talk in circles and point fingers at the other party.
........... I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
Down Ballot folks.......
Early primary voting starts in two days here in NC. Primary day is May 8th.
I printed out my primary ballot to look at my Republican choices.
President - 4 choices - one of those dropped out.
US House district 4 - 3 choices
NC Governor - 6 choices
Lt Governor - 5 choices
NC Auditor - 5 choices
Ag Commis - 2 choices
Ins Commis - 3 choices
Sec of State - 4 choices
Treasurer - 2 choices
NC House - 2 choices
NC District Judge - 4 choices
And of course the Amendment.
I've got a couple of weeks to check then all out and make my pick - but I'll support whoever wins in the primary.
I don't vote to feel good - I vote to win.
So if someone doesn't vote or votes third party the blood of the country is on their hands? I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
Yes. You are free to be an idiot all day long.
So far.
The Secret Service Says They Are Investigating Ted Nugent’s Threatening Remarks Toward Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/17/465855/secret-service-ted-nugent/
lololol Which agents? More like "What's Left of the Secret Service Says..." :D
Streck-Fu
04-17-2012, 14:24
But Ted did not actually threaten Obama. He merely stated that he would be dead or in prison if Obama were to be re-elected. He did not say "If he gets re-elected, I'm going to shoot his ass...."
Exactly why Ted thinks he will be in jail or dead is undefined.
:munchin
But Ted did not actually threaten Obama. He merely stated that he would be dead or in prison if Obama were to be re-elected. He did not say "If he gets re-elected, I'm going to shoot his ass...."
Exactly why Ted thinks he will be in jail or dead is undefined.
:munchin
lol They're just horny for a White Threat that doesn't exist.
It ain't just caucasian bowhunters who want a new leader.
dr. mabuse
04-17-2012, 14:48
If you own a house and your neighbor next to you doesn't mow his lawn and his cars up on blocks that diminishes the value of your house but that's his right to do on his property and you can't take that from him even if it is unpalatable to you.
Do you not understand the full adult responsibilities of having a mortgage and living with others in a neighborhood, belonging to a homeowner's association and abiding by their rules or understand and appreciate city codes and the force of law, whether you like them or not? And yes, neighbors and the law can take that away from a neighbor that has a junkyard in the front yard.
Real life vs school.
To paraphrase what Dusty implied, prepare for possible numerous corrective brick marks on your forehead by others in the future. :munchin
But Ted did not actually threaten Obama. He merely stated that he would be dead or in prison if Obama were to be re-elected.
Exactly why Ted thinks he will be in jail or dead is undefined.
Prolly a short interview then.
Right now, however, given all the bad press coverage of Secret Service activities, I suspect anything - even close - gets attention. By the book ! Where's the camera?
That's really one hell of a thing to say.
I've had some QPs tell me some wise things before like you here is one I remember very well but paraphrased. Freedom isn't what we see and think of today. Freedom sometimes steps on your toes but to cancel that out would be to diminish it. If you own a house and your neighbor next to you doesn't mow his lawn and his cars up on blocks that diminishes the value of your house but that's his right to do on his property and you can't take that from him even if it is unpalatable to you.
So if someone doesn't vote or votes third party the blood of the country is on their hands? I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
It is your right to do so, and I never said otherwise. But your "choice" as you put it is to continue on with the policies of a President that have pretty much proven that he wants us to be on par with socialist countries in the European Union, or with someone who has a chance to pull us from the precipice. What is it going to be??
If you are an Obama supporter, dandy for you, vote for him as many times as you like. :D
But if you are not an Obama supporter and you either don't vote because you can't stomach Romney, or if you vote third party, you are basically voting for Obama.
I appreciate people standing on their principles, even if I don't agree with them. But there is standing on your priniciples, and then there is flushing this country down the toilet. You may be surprised that by standing on your principles on this one, may cause you to die on your knees.
Just my .02 worth
If you own a house and your neighbor next to you doesn't mow his lawn and his cars up on blocks that diminishes the value of your house but that's his right to do on his property and you can't take that from him even if it is unpalatable to you.
Do you not understand the full adult responsibilities of having a mortgage and living with others in a neighborhood, belonging to a homeowner's association and abiding by their rules or understand and appreciate city codes and the force of law, whether you like them or not? And yes, neighbors and the law can take that away from a neighbor that has a junkyard in the front yard.
Real life vs school.
To paraphrase what Dusty implied, prepare for possible numerous corrective brick marks on your forehead by others in the future. :munchin
I think it's obvious I understand that because I used it in my example of how it is in real life and how if we held freedom in the deference it should be or how we claim to respect it we wouldn't tamper with it. I'm saying that the laws should be looked at. Yes, its frustrating that your neighbor may have a junkyard for a house but it's his right.
Last thing we need is it appearing as if Romney is a radical right-winger.
No, the last thing we need is four more years with a radical left-winger.
Romney needs to come off as the sensible center-right guy, concerned primarily about the debt, deficit, economy, national security, etc...being associated with a guy whose comments, rightly or wrongly, could be construed as threatening President Obama, is not going to help with winning the independents.
That's where we don't agree, though you may very well be correct.
I think the further to the right Romney goes, the better.
Didn't you notice how he sidestepped in that direction every time he lost a primary in order to win the next?
I wouldn't be too sure. I had my doubts about Romney, but as someone on this site who is much smarter than I said: Romney was a Republican Governor in a very liberal state. He had to govern from center left because of that. I don't necessarily think that makes him a RINO. He knows this country is center right (regardless of what the media says) and I think he will govern from such a point.
In the end, all I know is that this country won't survive 4 more years of the courrent POTUS, and still be recognizable as the one we all have stood up for and defended all our lives.
So for all those folks thinking of sitting out because you don't like Romney becasue you don't think he is conservative enough, you will have the blood of this nation on your hands.
Now that was very well said.
dr. mabuse
04-17-2012, 15:44
I think it's obvious I understand that because I used it in my example of how it is in real life and how if we held freedom in the deference it should be or how we claim to respect it we wouldn't tamper with it. I'm saying that the laws should be looked at. Yes, its frustrating that your neighbor may have a junkyard for a house but it's his right.
Sincerely, you're a cadet and a student and you're scaring the living hell out of me. Seriously, even my 16 yo understands this.
I can't find anything regarding operating a pig sty within city limits in the Bill of Rights. Please elaborate.
So, if it's someone's right to do something and it harms others, it's o.k. with you as long as we respect your view of what their "rights" are?
Per your own words, if we actually respected their rights, we should ignore their actions that can harm or hurt us or are contrary to the law?
Perhaps my education at Stanford was deficient by FSU standards.
If enough people don't get a woody over Romney and pass on the vote, and as a result, we get Obama for another 4 years of hell as a result, you're o.k. with that?
Are you serious?
I smell blood in the water.
Now that was very well said.
+1
And with regards to the "I'll vote as I choose" crowd, sometimes we don't vote, we instead settle on the lesser of multiple evils with the optional olfactory clothes pin, for the greater good of this country. Whats the old saying: "United we stand, divided Obama wins..."
2011 Romney comments to NRA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL9QS5A98n8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
2012 transcript of Romney comments to NRA
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/04/13/transcript-read-mitt-romneys-speech-on-freedom-given-at-nra-convention-in-st-louis/
Excerpts:
This fine organization is sometimes called a single-issue group.
That’s high praise when the single issue is freedom.
All of you can be proud of your long and unwavering defense of our constitutional rights and liberties.
In 207 days, we’ll do something that is really quite amazing:
Americans will choose not only a President but an entire House of Representatives and a third of the US Senate.
The entire world will be watching us.
And by around midnight on November 6th, maybe a little earlier or later, we’ll know the results of millions of Americans exercising their right to vote.
In doing so, Americans will make a profound choice, a decision that is much more important than the candidates or the political parties.
We will not just select the President who will guide us; we will also choose between two distinct paths and destinies for our nation.
Sincerely, you're a cadet and a student and you're scaring the living hell out of me. Seriously, even my 16 yo understands this.
I can't find anything regarding operating a pig sty within city limits in the Bill of Rights. Please elaborate.
So, if it's someone's right to do something and it harms others, it's o.k. with you as long as we respect your view of what their "rights" are?
Per your own words, if we actually respected their rights, we should ignore their actions that can harm or hurt us or are contrary to the law?
Perhaps my education at Stanford was deficient by FSU standards.
If enough people don't get a woody over Romney and pass on the vote, and as a result, we get Obama for another 4 years of hell as a result, you're o.k. with that?
Are you serious?
I smell blood in the water.
I don't care where you got your education but if you want to turn up your nose thats fine, I still don't care.
I probably was too short in my explanation on what my argument meant exactly but the crux of the argument in my example was that you feel that your property rights are superior to those of your neighbors.
obviously states have their supreme "police rights" like health and general welfare so they can tell you that you can't have a pig sty in city limits because it brings disease or something like that but if someone just has an unkempt yard and maybe a beaut up pick up for a POV and it lowers the value of your house do you feel you have the right to change that? (I've actually seen communities make people park their trucks in the garage and not allow them on the driveway or somewhere away from the home because it takes away from the aesthetics of the community.
Sure, but primaries are different than the general election, because you go from the base to the general electorate. Obama did that like a master in the '08 election. He ran about as far to the left as one could possibly go. Then when the general came, he pivoted to being center-left.
If Romney gets any more "left", he'll be a Democrat.
Why? IS Ted in a Colombian whorehouse?
That should have been in PINK.
Apparently some perceive Ted threatened the GuBerMent and El Douche...some might consider his talk to be the R-word...and of course he is one of those people who embraces the Bible and his firearms....and maybe he believes it is the duty of the people to put the stops on a out of control government.
Can you say Seditious Conspiracy :rolleyes:
ZonieDiver
04-17-2012, 16:43
I don't care where you got your education but if you want to turn up your nose thats fine, I still don't care.
I probably was too short in my explanation on what my argument meant exactly but the crux of the argument in my example was that you feel that your property rights are superior to those of your neighbors.
obviously states have their supreme "police rights" like health and general welfare so they can tell you that you can't have a pig sty in city limits because it brings disease or something like that but if someone just has an unkempt yard and maybe a beaut up pick up for a POV and it lowers the value of your house do you feel you have the right to change that? (I've actually seen communities make people park their trucks in the garage and not allow them on the driveway or somewhere away from the home because it takes away from the aesthetics of the community.
Shorter sentences, better punctuation, and some paragraphs might make it easier to understand your point. Your example above seems, to me, to contradict itself. (I didn't go to Stanford. U of Miami and Arizona State are the places I spent my undergraduate days.)
Here at PS.com, we value these things I've mentioned. It is always a good idea to hit that "Preview Post" button and examine what you've written, make an edit or two, and then hit "Submit Reply" when finally finished. Then be prepared to go back and "Edit" once more for something you missed. (Examine some of the posts by frequent users, and you'll see that many often edit posts to correct errors.)
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/ted-nugent-rebuffs-democratic-attacks-im-a-black-jew-at-a-nazi-klan-rally/
Rock guitarist, conservative activist and Mitt Romney supporter Ted Nugent says he stands by his provocative rant against the Obama administration at last weekend’s National Rifle Association convention, despite mounting pressure from Democrats and an investigation by the Secret Service.
“I spoke at the NRA and I will stand by my speech. It was 100 percent positive,” Nugent told the Dana Loesch radio show today. “It’s about we the people taking back our American dream from the corrupt monsters in the federal government under this administration and the communist czars he’s appointed.”
Nugent told a crowd of convention-goers that “if Barack Obama becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
“If you can’t go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil, America-hating administration, I don’t even know what you’re made of,” he said at the NRA.
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/ted-nugent-planning-hunt-‘president-romney’/509121
Dismissing the dust-up over his anti-Obama comments as “doing God’s work,” rocker and celebrated bowhunter Ted Nugent reveals that he’s already planning a winter hunt with “our new president,” Mitt Romney.
“We are actually talking about that,” he tells Peterson’s Bowhunting, a sporting and hunting magazine. “I will be hunting every day as usual all September, October, November, December, January, February and March, so I would welcome self-evident, truth-driven patriots including our new president and his family,” he adds.
Nugent, who has endorsed Romney, came under the gun when he said during a recent NRA convention that if President Obama is reelected “I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.” The U.S. Secret Service plans to question his comments, which fans shrugged off as simple hyperbole characteristic of “the Nuge.”
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/19/secret-service-no-charges-against-rocker-nugent-for-obama-comments/
So if someone doesn't vote or votes third party the blood of the country is on their hands? I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
By not voting, you will help to set the stage for an electoral "mandate" if the incumbent president wins by a significant margin of the popular vote. (IIRC, the margin is +5%.)
Moreover, by hinging your support for a candidate on a single criterion--especially if it requires a politician running for a national office to represent one "properly"--you will contribute directly to the ongoing political deadlock in Washington.
But, like you said, it is your right to do so.
By not voting, you will help to set the stage for an electoral "mandate" if the incumbent president wins by a significant margin of the popular vote. (IIRC, the margin is +5%.)
Moreover, by hinging your support for a candidate on a single criterion--especially if it requires a politician running for a national office to represent one "properly"--you will contribute directly to the ongoing political deadlock in Washington.
But, like you said, it is your right to do so.
It's the same BS we went through in '08, e.g. lesser of two weevils. "Duty Now for the Future".
I think a sufficient number of voters realize how bad they f.cked up in '08 so that we don't re-learn the lesson permanently, but you still have your leftover imbeciles.
That's really one hell of a thing to say.
I've had some QPs tell me some wise things before like you here is one I remember very well but paraphrased. Freedom isn't what we see and think of today. Freedom sometimes steps on your toes but to cancel that out would be to diminish it. If you own a house and your neighbor next to you doesn't mow his lawn and his cars up on blocks that diminishes the value of your house but that's his right to do on his property and you can't take that from him even if it is unpalatable to you.
So if someone doesn't vote or votes third party the blood of the country is on their hands? I'll vote how I want or maybe I won't vote because I can find no man among the crowd who I feel properly represents me. That's freedom and my right to do so.
I don't like Romney and I don't like voting for a lesser of two evils.
But when my choices are Romney or another 4 years of the O-Train steam rolling towards who the hell knows what........I'll have to hedge my bet on Romney.
Like I said, it's a hedge.....there is nothing to say that things have become so bad that Romney is the proverbial White Knight coming to the rescue of the masses who are willing to settle for less to stop the pain at any cost.
Team Sergeant
04-20-2012, 08:05
No, the last thing we need is four more years with a radical left-winger.
I disagree.
I believe the Community Organizer and the democrats have already set in motion the complete destruction of capitalism and America as we currently know it. I believe that those that think socialism is a better system now outnumber those that work hard to make a living. I also believe that spending 5 trillion dollars that we don't have is the "straw" that will break this country. No one, left or right, is going to stop the handouts and risk ostracizing a very large voting segment.
Greece is now our economic model and what we have to look forward to in the near future. I don't believe it's a question of "if" we might head down that path, I now believe it's a question of when. The people of Greece that have been living off the government teat are now burning down their own country. Remember Greece, that one "little" country, almost brought Europe to its knees, when America fails the entire planet will be affected.
http://www.businessinsider.com/stunning-photos-of-the-disaster-zone-in-greece-2012-2
I don't believe four more years will make a difference anymore.
"He has been an unmitigated disaster to the country," Cheney said of President Barack Obama.
‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”
― Robert A. Heinlein
Entire post.
‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”
― Robert A. Heinlein
I see your point, but I hope you're wrong.
Surely there are enough real Americans left to stop the rot.
Barbarian
04-20-2012, 09:01
I disagree.
I believe the Community Organizer and the democrats have already set in motion the complete destruction of capitalism and America as we currently know it. I believe that those that think socialism is a better system now outnumber those that work hard to make a living. I also believe that spending 5 trillion dollars that we don't have is the "straw" that will break this country. No one, left or right, is going to stop the handouts and risk ostracizing a very large voting segment.
The Community Organizer has certainly taken greater steps down that path, but I feel that it's a path America has been walking for a long time.
I believe it deals as much with human nature as anything else. For many, living the good life leads directly to complacency and loss of realistic perspective. Most Americans (at least most I know) can not even imagine having to fight for survival as the earliest Americans did. At one time, thought, making it through a winter was a substantial accomplishment.
I expect, in the end, it will be just another case of "you don't know what you got, 'till it's gone."
Surely there are enough real Americans left to stop the rot.
There's not much real Americans can do to stop it, right now. Slow it down, maybe, but I think it will get reeeeeal bad, before it actually gets any better.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/19/st-louis-nra-party-rocked/?page=all#pagebreak
If all of America were just like the great families at the National Rifle Association’s 141st annual members meeting in St. Louis last weekend, our country would be flawless. Surrounded by my family, friends, patriots, law enforcement and military heroes, veterans who have sacrificed dearly for freedom and the U.S. Constitution, the good will and positive energy in the air was cleansing, to say the least. We set another attendance record for the NRA and for St. Louis. It was downright perfect.
I spent all three days doing fundraisers for children’s and military charities, fondling much hardware, meeting legions of good folks at the Ted Nugent Ammo exhibit, and shaking hands with great Americans, Canadians, Brits and freedom-loving people from around the globe.
As always, I also conducted numerous media interviews providing unlimited self-evident truth and the inexhaustible evidence supporting the beauty of keeping and bearing arms for defense of self, family and liberty. Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French. Such an embarrassing, irresponsible, crime-inducing condition is inexcusable.
On Sunday, April 15, my killer Motor City soul brother, Derek St. Holmes, joined me onstage for an impromptu celebration of Motown classics and my fire-breathing soundtrack of defiance and God-given, constitutionally guaranteed individual rights. Much enthusiastic foot stomping and dancing erupted like it was the Fourth of July.
Introduced lovingly by the great Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbot, I took the stage, humbled yet proud that such a gathering of fine people would unite to hear the old guitar player raise hell for a better America.
My speech, just like every year at the NRA convention, was about the unlimited greatness of this sacred experiment in self-government, thanking the heroes of the U.S. military and law enforcement for their incredible sacrifices while waging war against the enemies of freedom, wherever they may slither.
But beyond all that is good, the real duty of “we the people” is to watch out for and fight against the bad and the ugly brought about by people of power who have historically abused it.
I named names. I called out Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. for his Fast and Furious scandal and other offenses. I railed against President Obama for engineering the dismantling of the once-greatest economy in the world. I reminded everyone how Hillary Rodham Clinton sides with the evil criminals of the United Nations instead of her own great nation. I reminded good Americans that it isn’t the enemies’ fault for sneaking into the White House and abusing power, but rather we the people for allowing them to take corruption to a horrible new level.
I begged everyone to register and vote, because warriors give up their lives so that we can. I spotlighted cockroaches and rallied those who care to stomp ‘em out at the voting booth in November, as is my duty as an American.
By no stretch of the imagination did I ever threaten anyone’s life, or hint of violence or mayhem. Metaphors needn’t be explained to educated people.
I passionately rallied the American civilian troops to stand up for what is right and demand that the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights be once again the measure of all laws and policies in America.
Then in their ever-desperate scramble to divert attention from the crimes of their communist leaders, the Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” left-wing media and terminally liberal Democrats circled their battlewagons of deceit and hate and unleashed their tsunami of lies about me and everything I said.
To me, my family and thinking America, the dysfunctional left-wing hate hysteria was laughable. I became the No. 1 global tweet entity, while every newspaper and America-hating television and radio gang literally tripped over themselves in a feeble attempt to out-lie each other.
I personally have never been prouder. If my daily activities and simple statements of truth and logic can cause such bizarre overreaction by so many, I need no more evidence that I am on the right track. When doing God’s work, the devils go bonzo. So be it.
I stand by my statements. The line is drawn in the American sand. I stand with patriots who love this country. We wake up early every day to put our hearts and souls into being assets for America, our fellow Americans, the people of the world and the good earth.
Those who despise me blindly chant Mao Zedong and Che Guevara rants, and the difference between our good and their bad is glaring.
Choose your side carefully, America. The shining city on the hill is under attack from within.
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"I reminded good Americans that it isn’t the enemies’ fault for sneaking into the White House and abusing power, but rather we the people for allowing them to take corruption to a horrible new level." TN (quote from article cited above).
November can't come soon enough for the good of the country.
(The Blaze/AP) — Rocker Ted Nugent has agreed to plead guilty to transporting a black bear he illegally killed in southeast Alaska back in May of 2009.
As part of the plea deal, Nugent must pay a $10,000 fine, not hunt or fish within Alaska or on any other U.S. Forest Service lands for one year, record a Public Service Announcement, and serve two years probation.
CNN reports that the public service announcement, “must be approved by federal prosecutors in Alaska, must be at least 30 to 60 seconds in length, and be broadcast every second week on his television show for one 12-month period.
“This PSA will discuss the importance of a hunter’s responsibility in knowing the rules and regulations of the hunting activities that they engage in, which is subject to the review and final approval, prior to any broadcast, by a representative of the United States Attorney’s Office in the District of Alaska,” the agreement states.
Nugent seemingly wounded a bear with a bow and arrow just days after bagging another bear, and Alaska law limits licensed hunters to one bear per hunting season.
Nugent made the admission in signing a plea agreement with federal prosecutors that was filed Friday in U.S. District Court, soon after he was questioned and cleared by the Secret Service over comments that he would be “dead or in jail” if Obama got re-elected.
Ted Nugent Agrees to Plead Guilty in Illegal Kill of Black Bear in Alaska
However, Nugent’s attorney maintains that his client was unaware of the law– which was introduced less than five years ago. He says he even watched video of the shot, and the arrow supposedly only “touched” the bear before sinking into the ground.
“There wasn’t any blood trail that they could find,” he said. “There was a little blood apparently at the spot, but nothing that indicated the bear was hard hit.”
Nugent is seemingly in good spirits despite the controversy he has been involved in recently, saying his meeting with the Secret Service could not have gone better.
“I thanked them for their service,” he said, “we shook hands and went about our business. God bless the good federal agents wherever they may be.”
However, some are wondering why an offense from 2009 is being brought up at this particular time.
Is it, some ask, part of a coordinated effort to silence the rock star? Or is it just coincidence?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ted-nugent-agrees-to-plead-guilty-in-illegal-kill-of-black-bear-in-alaska/
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZFnAMlcGG6DwddqUFFm-KYPEgyw?docId=3296fedd392a4ede8f4ea7908047d66c
longrange1947
04-21-2012, 19:30
And Fort Knox has bowed to pressure and dropped Nugent from its show.
http://news.yahoo.com/army-dumps-nugent-concert-obama-remarks-203739107.html
Doc Diego
04-22-2012, 09:45
Team Sargeant nailed it.
America is not Greece and, unlike Greece, America does not rely upon its diasporal ancestry to try and keep it afloat.
Richard :munchin
A difference though is that the Greeks have the problem of very lax enforcement of their tax laws and also they don't produce much of anything. America, we have the problem of 50% of the country paying no federal income tax, but we still produce a ton of stuff.
Most of what I see on store shelves these days says Made in China, or Mexico, Indonesia, Republic of Vietnam, etc. On rare occasion the package may say Designed or Assembled in the USA....I am sure US corporations send production there because of the superior quality produced and the wonderful working conditions
Lets not forget we produce less and less in the coutry becaise of increasing regulation
Aside from 50% of the population being divested from the game, we have a very subjective enforcement of the Tax Law. If you are Tim Geitner, Charlie Rangel, Al Sharpton, etc. you get a Get Out of Jail Free card......most of us (for small amounts) get things repocessed and garnished. The Tax Code is so enormous no one knows what the hell is in it. Taxes shouldn't be a revenue stream used for funding your political asparations, personal wealth schemes and they are through the use of subsidies (aka re-distribution of wealth) and tax exemptions..
The plan for growth is a printing press.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/19/st-louis-nra-party-rocked/?page=all#pagebreak
I begged everyone to register and vote, because warriors give up their lives so that we can. I spotlighted cockroaches and rallied those who care to stomp ‘em out at the voting booth in November, as is my duty as an American.
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Ted Nugent Rocks, IMHO. Very well said.:lifter
Holly:munchin
I don't see how this particular voting cycle has anything whatsoever to do with America electing a president. It has turned into a choice about whether or not America wishes to remove a president from office. A vote in any election should never REALLY be about who the voter thinks is the single best guy for the job. Sometimes the bigger question isn't "who is the best guy" the question is, “what is the best selection for the health of the country.”
...or as the current POTUS has said, you could just "eat your peas". Then again, with the economy the way it is, with gas crawling past four bucks per gallon; who can afford peas to begin with.
I see the ballot breaking out like this:
Any vote for the following candidates will allow the current POTUS to remain for another term:
-Obama/Biden (Dimocrites)
-Tom Hoefling (Americas Party)
-Virgil Goode (Constitution Party)
-Any of the Actresses, Comedians, activists, festival promoters or retired state employees running on the ever popular green party ticket. (Well, maybe Rosanne Barr really IS electable)
-Any of the various and sundry Libertarian candidates that usually just come across as little more than fiscally semi-conservatives that want to legalize drugs (not a judgment, just an opinion)
-Pete Lindsay from the Party of Socialism and Liberation
-Jack Fellure from the Prohibition Party
-Stewart Alexander from the socialist party USA
-Jerry White from the socialist equality party
-The ever present write in candidates like Mick E. Mouse or OJ Simpson (or Homer Simpson for that matter)
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Any vote for the following candidate is a vote that will result in removal of the current administration from power:
Mitt Romney (Republi-can’t Party)
So please… vote your conscience this year, if you think Rosanne Barr is good for America, go ahead and vote for her, who cares whether or not she is electable. Send your write-in vote for ‘E. Jack Eulate’, surely he can produce a wave of success for the nation. Stand high on your principles, just know that your “don’t blame me-I voted Libertarian” bumper sticker won’t mean dick when the next conversation with the Russians goes like this…
…”I told you I’d have MORE flexibility after my re-election! MWUA-HAHA, MWUA-HAHA-HAHA”
Vote your conscience or “eat your peas”; just my two cents, I could be wrong.
I don't see how this particular voting cycle has anything whatsoever to do with America electing a president. It has turned into a choice about whether or not America wishes to remove a president from office. A vote in any election should never REALLY be about who the voter thinks is the single best guy for the job. Sometimes the bigger question isn't "who is the best guy" the question is, “what is the best selection for the health of the country.”
...or as the current POTUS has said, you could just "eat your peas". Then again, with the economy the way it is, with gas crawling past four bucks per gallon; who can afford peas to begin with.
I see the ballot breaking out like this:
Any vote for the following candidates will allow the current POTUS to remain for another term:
-Obama/Biden (Dimocrites)
-Tom Hoefling (Americas Party)
-Virgil Goode (Constitution Party)
-Any of the Actresses, Comedians, activists, festival promoters or retired state employees running on the ever popular green party ticket. (Well, maybe Rosanne Barr really IS electable)
-Any of the various and sundry Libertarian candidates that usually just come across as little more than fiscally semi-conservatives that want to legalize drugs (not a judgment, just an opinion)
-Pete Lindsay from the Party of Socialism and Liberation
-Jack Fellure from the Prohibition Party
-Stewart Alexander from the socialist party USA
-Jerry White from the socialist equality party
-The ever present write in candidates like Mick E. Mouse or OJ Simpson (or Homer Simpson for that matter)
--------------------------------
Any vote for the following candidate is a vote that will result in removal of the current administration from power:
Mitt Romney (Republi-can’t Party)
So please… vote your conscience this year, if you think Rosanne Barr is good for America, go ahead and vote for her, who cares whether or not she is electable. Send your write-in vote for ‘E. Jack Eulate’, surely he can produce a wave of success for the nation. Stand high on your principles, just know that your “don’t blame me-I voted Libertarian” bumper sticker won’t mean dick when the next conversation with the Russians goes like this…
…”I told you I’d have MORE flexibility after my re-election! MWUA-HAHA, MWUA-HAHA-HAHA”
Vote your conscience or “eat your peas”; just my two cents, I could be wrong.
lol Yep. :lifter
Personally, I view this election as more of a 'firing' than a 'hiring' exercise, with the current CEO being relieved by his Board (the voting public) and MR2 being brought in as the interim CEO until the Board can find a new CEO to bring the organization back from its current tendency to follow a business model which focuses on little but monkey business.
To that end, I'm currently planning on supporting MR2 as the 'interim' CEO of this organization.
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Personally, I view this election as more of a 'firing' than a 'hiring' exercise, with the current CEO being relieved by his Board (the voting public) and MR2 being brought in as the interim CEO until the Board can find a new CEO to bring the organization back from its current tendency to follow a business model which focuses on little but monkey business.
To that end, I'm currently planning on supporting MR2 as the 'interim' CEO of this organization.
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Justify it however you want. :D
Stuff on store shelves are mostly cheap products that are more cost-effective to have manufactured overseas. For example, thin-margin products such as toys, consumer electronics, and shoes. But higher-margin, sophisticated products, such as various sophisticated componentry, machinery, equipment, medical devices, industrial and military electronics, semiconductors, machine tools, etc...we make a lot of here. Not the kinds of things one will find on the shelves at the local Target store or Wal-Mart, but still very crucial to the functioning of the global economy.
Also, by "produce," I mean both goods and services. America produces lots of both.
No disagreement there.
We're always close to being on the same page ;)
The problem is stores (Monopolies) like Target, Walmart, Lowes and Home Depot are were most people spend there money, and while it is more cost effective for a period of time, and it has allowed for people to 'seemingly' get more for their money and not feel the pinch on their wallets by selling cheap......Cheap is a short term fix to keep people happy and buying products, and it keep David Glass rolling in dough by pawning goods made from 5 cent slave labor instead of $10-20 per hour Americans. In the long term it equates to job loss, dwindling consumers, loss of industry and a stagnate economy.....all of which eventually ripples through the entire economy.
The service sector is in many cases (I think most) is a non-essential convenience...... Fast Food, landscapers, lawn mowing, maid services etc. If you don't have consumers with jobs those services are useless. The service sector is a way for you and me to make our lives easier, or a means pad our wallets with 20-30k per year by eliminating a job and telling Bob to find a new job.
High Tech stuff......more and more is made in China. There is even a thread or two on this board pertaining to trojan laced chips that the DoD bought through a third party (a Service Provider so to speak). And there have been questions raised as to whether the Drone the Iranians have possession of might have something to do with outsourced chips.
On the road we are headed....the only thing we will have to sell is natural resources oil, natural gas, coal, timber, etc. Which the Government will have hijacked from private enterprise through regulation and laws.
And course labor will be cheap, because their are few private sector jobs. And because gasoline became cost prohibitive few will drive, so we will have to ride the government owned high speed rail to the Government labor camp, were we mine coal for the government which they sell overseas to another country......that way Nancy, Harry and the rest of the Politico's keep their jobs and their lifestyles.
RE #66 - Blave New Wold redux...translated from the Japanese into Chinese...I'm awaiting the Sanskrit version...:rolleyes:
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
RE #66 - Blave New Wold redux...translated from the Japanese into Chinese...I'm awaiting the Sanskrit version...:rolleyes:
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Here's one facet of a Brave New World:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/us/politics/shift-on-executive-powers-let-obama-bypass-congress.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
One Saturday last fall, President Obama interrupted a White House strategy meeting to raise an issue not on the agenda. He declared, aides recalled, that the administration needed to more aggressively use executive power to govern in the face of Congressional obstructionism.
“We had been attempting to highlight the inability of Congress to do anything,” recalled William M. Daley, who was the White House chief of staff at the time. “The president expressed frustration, saying we have got to scour everything and push the envelope in finding things we can do on our own.”
For Mr. Obama, that meeting was a turning point. As a senator and presidential candidate, he had criticized George W. Bush for flouting the role of Congress. And during his first two years in the White House, when Democrats controlled Congress, Mr. Obama largely worked through the legislative process to achieve his domestic policy goals.
But increasingly in recent months, the administration has been seeking ways to act without Congress. Branding its unilateral efforts “We Can’t Wait,” a slogan that aides said Mr. Obama coined at that strategy meeting, the White House has rolled out dozens of new policies — on creating jobs for veterans, preventing drug shortages, raising fuel economy standards, curbing domestic violence and more.
Each time, Mr. Obama has emphasized the fact that he is bypassing lawmakers. When he announced a cut in refinancing fees for federally insured mortgages last month, for example, he said: “If Congress refuses to act, I’ve said that I’ll continue to do everything in my power to act without them.”
Aides say many more such moves are coming. Not just a short-term shift in governing style and a re-election strategy, Mr. Obama’s increasingly assertive use of executive action could foreshadow pitched battles over the separation of powers in his second term, should he win and Republicans consolidate their power in Congress.
On Sunday, President Obama signed an executive order authorizing sanctions and visa bans against those who facilitate human rights abuses in Syria and Iran using information technology. The White House said the sanctions would target companies that enable authoritarian governments with technology used for oppression as well as what it called “digital guns for hire” who design systems to monitor and target citizens for killing, torture or other abuses.
Many conservatives have denounced Mr. Obama’s new approach. But William G. Howell, a University of Chicago political science professor and author of “Power Without Persuasion: The Politics of Direct Presidential Action,” said Mr. Obama’s use of executive power to advance domestic policies that could not pass Congress was not new historically. Still, he said, because of Mr. Obama’s past as a critic of executive unilateralism, his transformation is remarkable.
“What is surprising is that he is coming around to responding to the incentives that are built into the institution of the presidency,” Mr. Howell said. “Even someone who has studied the Constitution and holds it in high regard — he, too, is going to exercise these unilateral powers because his long-term legacy and his standing in the polls crucially depend upon action.”
Mr. Obama has issued signing statements claiming a right to bypass a handful of constraints — rejecting as unconstitutional Congress’s attempt to prevent him from having White House “czars” on certain issues, for example. But for the most part, Mr. Obama’s increased unilateralism in domestic policy has relied on a different form of executive power than the sort that had led to heated debates during his predecessor’s administration: Mr. Bush’s frequent assertion of a right to override statutes on matters like surveillance and torture.
“Obama’s not saying he has the right to defy a Congressional statute,” said Richard H. Pildes, a New York University law professor. “But if the legislative path is blocked and he otherwise has the legal authority to issue an executive order on an issue, they are clearly much more willing to do that now than two years ago.”
The Obama administration started down this path soon after Republicans took over the House of Representatives last year. In February 2011, Mr. Obama directed the Justice Department to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act, which bars federal recognition of same-sex marriages, against constitutional challenges. Previously, the administration had urged lawmakers to repeal it, but had defended their right to enact it.
In the following months, the administration increased efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions through environmental regulations, gave states waivers from federal mandates if they agreed to education overhauls, and refocused deportation policy in a way that in effect granted relief to some illegal immigrants brought to the country as children. Each step substituted for a faltered legislative proposal.
But those moves were isolated and cut against the administration’s broader political messaging strategy at the time: that Mr. Obama was trying to reach across the aisle to get things done. It was only after the summer, when negotiations over a deficit reduction deal broke down and House Republicans nearly failed to raise the nation’s borrowing limit, that Mr. Obama fully shifted course.
First, he proposed a jobs package and gave speeches urging lawmakers to “pass this bill” — knowing they would not. A few weeks later, at the policy and campaign strategy meeting in the White House’s Roosevelt Room, the president told aides that highlighting Congressional gridlock was not enough.
“He wanted to continue down the path of being bold with Congress and flexing our muscle a little bit, and showing a contrast to the American people of a Congress that was completely stuck,” said Nancy-Ann DeParle, a deputy chief of staff assigned to lead the effort to come up with ideas.
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Badger52
04-23-2012, 08:33
Here's one facet of a Brave New World:
On Sunday, President Obama signed an executive order authorizing sanctions and visa bans against those who facilitate human rights abuses in Syria and Iran using information technology.What he said:
“To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and *— more profoundly — our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are,” he said at the time.What should be hacked into his teleprompter:
“To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and *— more profoundly — our responsibilities to our own citizens would be a betrayal of who we are,” he said at the time.
:rolleyes:
To that end, I'm currently planning on supporting MR2 as the 'interim' CEO of this organization.
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Uncle Richard, so glad... to have your full faith, confidence, and support.
On Sunday, President Obama signed an executive order authorizing sanctions and visa bans against those who facilitate human rights abuses in Syria and Iran using information technology. The White House said the sanctions would target companies that enable [COLOR="Lime"]authoritarian governments with technology used for oppression as well as what it called “digital guns for hire” who design systems to monitor and target citizens for killing, torture or other abuses.
That sounds kind of like our very own NSA data center in Utah...and the NDAA....domestic drone use....appliances and street lights that spy.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20120420_2020.php?oref=topstory
http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/NDAA
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/
http://www.infowars.com/new-street-lights-to-have-homeland-security-applications/
http://news.discovery.com/tech/your-android-smartphone-secretly-spying-111201.html
Uncle Richard, so glad... to have your full faith, confidence, and support.
Your name Romney? If it isn't, you're the wrong MR2. ;)
Richard