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SouthernDZ
12-27-2011, 07:49
If this is true, it's eerily reminiscent of Saigon in 1975. What does this say about us and the way we treat our allies?


Los Angeles Times, December 27, 2011

Used And Left Behind In Iraq: The U.S. promised interpreters quick visas, but thousands wait while the death threats keep coming.

By David Zucchino

BAGHDAD -- He rarely leaves his house. He's been shot at by gunmen in a passing car. He gets death threats over the phone.

"Traitor," the callers say. "American agent."

Tariq, 27, is a quick-witted, tech-savvy Iraqi who tosses off idiomatic American English phrases such as "I'm outta here" and "That's cool."

When he served as an interpreter for the U.S. military, Tariq lived on a secure base, safe from fellow Iraqis determined to kill him because of his service to America. But when the unit he served pulled out of Iraq on Oct. 13, he was dismissed and escorted off the base.

The U.S. government promised Tariq and thousands of other former interpreters that they would be first in line for special visas to the United States. But with the pace of visa approvals having slowed to a crawl, that promise rings hollow for Tariq, who stays locked in his parents' home, working the phones and the Internet to track his application.

For the first time since his work as an interpreter ended, Tariq left his home one day this month and drove through Baghdad to meet a reporter. He brought along his brother, a tall, burly fellow who literally watched Tariq's back with each step. Tariq asked that his surname not be published.

"I served the Americans very well, but now they've left me on my own, with no security," he said in nearly flawless English. "They've expelled us all from the only places in Iraq that were safe for us -- U.S. bases."

The visa process, always slow and cumbersome, has bogged down further since two Iraqi refugees were arrested in Kentucky in May on federal terrorism charges that included providing material support in the U.S. for Al Qaeda.

With empty hours to fill each day, Tariq has become an expert on U.S. immigration policy toward Iraq. He can quote legislation and recite testimony from congressional hearings and obscure federal documents.

Three words from U.S. legislation are imprinted on his brain: "special immigrant visa." The Refugee Crisis in Iraq Act, passed in 2008, provided fast-track status for Iraqis who had worked for the U.S. government or military.

The law authorized 5,000 special visas per year -- 20,000 through 2011. But through October, just 3,415 had been issued to Iraqis, according to the Iraqi Refugee Assistance Project.

The State Department says 7,362 Iraqis who worked for the U.S. have received special visas over that period, but that total includes family members.

Through July, 62,500 Iraqis had applied through the special visa program, though many have given up and dropped out.

Applicants have been told to expect waits of at least eight months. Tariq applied two years ago, then filed an amended application in October 2010.

A U.S. Embassy official in Baghdad, speaking on condition he not be identified, acknowledged "unfortunate delays" in issuing special visas, the result of enhanced security clearance procedures, some instituted after the Kentucky arrests. But he said recent changes would speed the process.

The State Department's National Visa Center has been ordered to flag special visa applications for expedited action, the official said. And a requirement that Iraqi applicants provide an original signature on certain forms sent to the U.S. has been dropped after Iraqis complained of logistical difficulties.

"We are making changes, ordered at the very highest levels, that will help shave time off the application process," the official said.

In the meantime, thousands of former interpreters have been cast adrift, threatened by insurgents as they wait for the federal bureaucracy to act.

Interpreters provided vital support to American forces, offering valuable insights into Iraqi customs and tribal rivalries. They accompanied U.S. troops on combat patrols, braving the same roadside bombs and insurgent attacks. Many were killed in combat, or executed after leaving their military jobs.

Qasaim, 42, who served as a U.S. military interpreter for seven years, quit in May to deal with a family crisis: His 15-year-old daughter had been kidnapped by her middle-aged teacher and forced to marry him. When he contacted the U.S. Embassy about a visa application for his family, he said, he was instructed to bring his daughter in for an interview.

"I said: 'How can you ask me such a question? I don't even know where my daughter is,' " he recalled.

He fears his daughter is dead or has been taken out of Iraq. Qasaim said her kidnapper has called several times, saying, "Don't bother to look for her -- you'll never find her."

Qasaim said threats have been made against him, his wife and seven children. His extended family is also marked for death; two of his brothers worked for the U.S. military and are seeking visas.

The U.S. Embassy finally agreed to forgo his daughter's interview and remove her from the family's application, Qasaim said. But consular officers will not say when or if the family will be able to immigrate to the U.S.

"All the embassy can tell me is that we have to wait our turn," Qasaim said.

Tariq said he has been told the same thing. He thought glowing letters of recommendation from U.S. military officers would clear his path to America.

An American colonel wrote: "In the performance of his duties, Tariq has received many death threats and murder attempts.... Tariq never faltered." The colonel mentioned that Tariq had passed stringent U.S. military security clearances.

An American lieutenant colonel wrote: "I would employ and/or work with Tariq any time, anywhere in the world." In an email to The Times, the officer, who insisted on anonymity, wrote: "He's a very smart young man ... and is more well-read than most people I know."

Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Buchanan, the top spokesman for U.S. forces in Iraq, has worked with several Iraqi interpreters on his four tours in Iraq and said most "have been exceptional."

One of his best interpreters was captured by Al Qaeda militants, held for seven months and tortured. He was released after his family paid a ransom, Buchanan said.

Buchanan said he sympathizes with former interpreters who face death threats, and has tried to help a few obtain visas.

"If they want to come to the U.S., we should do all we can to help them," he said. "They make our country all that much better. They bring a richness, a diversity, and their patriotism is just incredible."

During his recent brief excursion out of his house, Tariq was guarded and edgy. His brother hovered at his shoulder, tensing at each passing car or pedestrian.

At his home, he feels like a prisoner. He watches American movies and TV shows, which he once used as a means of honing his English skills. To kill time, he tends a tiny garden of tomatoes, herbs and flowers.

He stays in touch with his fiancee. She lives in California with her mother, who once worked for the U.S. military in Iraq and eventually received a visa.

He calls the U.S. consular office regularly, only to be told that his application remains on "administrative hold." He posts queries to a chat room on the U.S. Embassy's Facebook page.

In one query, he asked: Is there light at the end of the tunnel for me?

The answer from the consular office suggested that if Tariq was unhappy with the process and wanted his application returned to him, the embassy would be glad to oblige.

Tariq let out a sharp laugh. "I guess I got my answer," he said.

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mark46th
12-27-2011, 10:06
Reminds me of the final days in Southeast Asia, too.

CW3SF
12-27-2011, 10:33
Damn, that is messed up. :mad:

greenberetTFS
12-27-2011, 11:04
Reminds me of the final days in Southeast Asia, too.

History repeating itself!!!........:(

Big Teddy :munchin

afchic
12-27-2011, 14:50
DoS fucked things up when the war started. Them fucking things up now that it is over is no surprise to me.

Jefe
12-27-2011, 15:38
My counter part in Iraq was assassinated in under one year and I had another LCN who took a bullet to the head and went thru the entire process for the Special Immigrant Visa. Its a State Department Lie while they leave them to rot and I am absolutely disgusted with the two facedness.

Selling out allies.

Sad and sadder I can't do a thing about it that works.

mark46th
12-27-2011, 17:30
Did Ted Kennedy come back from the Afterlife? Abandoning people who helped us was his specialty. He had the blood of millions on his hands...

Sponge
12-27-2011, 18:42
This is really unfortunate. I ran the terps for my team back in 08 and managed to get the best ones back to the states after organizing thick packets and multiple signatures. The one I still keep in touch with is in the US Army now. I told him he could make way more money just being a contractor and linguist, but he said he wanted to be a U.S. citizen and a soldier. We would have been completely useless without these guys and gals, especially in the training and transition side of the job. It's so rare to find US citizens who are willing to give so much, kind of sad that we don't make it easier for these guys who have already proved themselves.

RB
12-27-2011, 20:37
whole post.

Ditto sponge.

Worked with an FIF set of twins that would've taken a bullet for any of us.

They got out of Iraq early 2006 and hopefully are prospering somewhere in the world, but not in Iraq. :cool:

Utah Bob
12-28-2011, 23:53
We keep this shit up and we'll run short of friendlies in any country we go into.:mad:

Crue
12-29-2011, 16:40
Thankfully our Terp, " Johnny", got his papers approved and made it to the US in late 2007.

He took shrapnel from a 120 mortar to the head and chest and was back to work later that month.


I am glad to see he made it through the process quickly.

tom kelly
12-29-2011, 19:00
In South Vietnam at the end of the war "The Peace with Honor" BS allowed almost all the Montagnards to be abandoned to face death or long terms in re-education camps, The policies of the US Politican has been me first, get re-elected and F--- everybody else. Some thing's will NEVER CHANGE... By the way almost all of the Vietnamese Gov. Officials and ranking military were long gone to the land of the big PX...Just my .02 TK.

Red Flag 1
12-29-2011, 19:05
We keep this shit up and we'll run short of friendlies in any country we go into.:mad:

The entire world is watching; and they do remember.

RF 1

alelks
12-29-2011, 19:19
We LET thousands upon thousands of ILLEGAL Aliens cross the border yearly but we can't take care of those who so courageously supported/took care of us.

THIS IS TOTAL BS!

I say we take every Senator, Congressman, and the whole Washington crowd, drop them on the front lines for 90 days and give them a dose of REALITY.

Scimitar
12-29-2011, 19:58
I may be way out of my lane here but it seems to me there are good peoples lives at risk that we owe a thing or two to, so...

What's stopping Military folk starting a political lobby group, money is raised from those who beleive those who showed exemplary service to our nation should be saved, from here political pressure is applied, and so on and so forth.

We can complain about it, but is anyone doing anything about it. I'd be the first to donate, hell I'd give time a well. Surely this directly effects the ability of SF to wage counter insurgencies in the future.

Political Capital IS the currency that moves mountains and the bank account of Political Currency is will, this is the beauty of democracy.

S

Remington Raidr
12-29-2011, 20:03
http://www.franksnepp.com/decent/index.html

Retreat is the most difficult of all military operations. But as a matter of honor you do not leave friends on the battlefield. In the evacuation of Saigon over half of the Vietnamese who finally got out escaped on their own with no help from us until they were far at sea.

The last CIA message from the Embassy declared: Let’s hope we do not repeat history. This is Saigon station signing off. :(

Pericles
12-31-2011, 17:40
Henry Kissinger is supposed to have said that it is dangerous for you to be an enemy of the United States, but to be a friend can be fatal.

More proof of the accuracy of that statement.

Sand_Rogue
12-31-2011, 18:01
I genuinely hope that the interpreters that I worked with during my tour can get out unscathed if they so choose or can enjoy their lives in iraq in peace.

greenberetTFS
01-02-2012, 14:54
We LET thousands upon thousands of ILLEGAL Aliens cross the border yearly but we can't take care of those who so courageously supported/took care of us.

THIS IS TOTAL BS!

I say we take every Senator, Congressman, and the whole Washington crowd, drop them on the front lines for 90 days and give them a dose of REALITY.



90 days!!!..:rolleyes: Your got to be kidding me,those f**kers wouldn't last "90 seconds" out there.....:mad:

Big Teddy :munchin