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Sdiver
11-09-2011, 11:32
That's it !!!!!
This guy has lost my vote for sure !!!!
I mean, if you can't believe Helen, you can you trust ????

:munchin

SF18C
11-09-2011, 11:42
And her reply was...whoever is touching me has 15 minutes to stop!

greenberetTFS
11-09-2011, 12:05
Seriously,the 5th accuster has come forward now and it's hard to believe they all are lying........:rolleyes: I liked Cain,thought he was a breath of fresh air from the rest of them,but now no way do I believe in him..........:(

Big Teddy :munchin

Hand
11-09-2011, 14:27
it's hard to believe they all are lying........:rolleyes: Big Teddy :munchin

I'm with you there Big Teddy, but how easy is it to pay a few women to 'come forth' and say they were harassed? I'm waiting for something more substantive that what the media has offered us so far.

From what i can find, the media has found more to discredit the accusers than they have found evidence against the accused.

Karen Kraushaar : Filed suits at next job. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/karen-kraushaar-herman-cain-accuser_n_1083654.html)

Sharon Bialek: Murky past (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058983/Murky-past-Herman-Cain-accuser-Sharon-Bialek-starts-emerge.html)

Accuser 2 and 3 are yet unnamed. Hmm. Guess its to protect their privacy. "Some unnamed source has claimed that Herman Cain sexually assaulted her in the past on some date at some time at an unknown location. Based on this unstated and unsubstantiated evidence, he should step down from his campaign."

akv
11-09-2011, 15:14
They like pizza in Italy. Cain knows pizza, Italy needs a PM to replace Berlusconi, sex scandals no big deal in Italian politics...

1stindoor
11-09-2011, 15:32
They like pizza in Italy. Cain knows pizza, Italy needs a PM to replace Berlusconi, sex scandals no big deal in Italian politics...

Nice!
Personally, I have my doubts he can continue in the race, though he has stated he will. But when your accusers have Gloria Allred as their attorney...you gotta give the guy some credit...things may not have been as bad as they're being reported.

Badger52
11-10-2011, 08:02
Remainder of the GOP field doesn't seem to be complaining too loudly either.
If they do, they're determined to be potential predators and worthy of nothing less than Paterno's fate.

If they jump on the attack-Cain canoe "in defense of women everywhere" they'll be racists.

He's sadly on his own, like it or not.
I do agree that the near-instantaneous appearance of Allred is an indicator.

Dusty
11-10-2011, 08:39
When it was Clinton, caught dead to rights, it wasn't even sex.

With any Republican, it's scandalous.

The mainstream media is a herd of whores.

greenberetTFS
11-10-2011, 08:58
The mainstream media is a herd of whores.

Dusty's right on target............. :mad:

Big Teddy :munchin

akv
11-10-2011, 10:06
When it was Clinton, caught dead to rights, it wasn't even sex. With any Republican, it's scandalous. The mainstream media is a herd of whores.

The media is biased, but Clinton was only the second president impeached, and lets not forget the recent Dim Weiner scandal. Either way I think Big Teddy nails it here;

Seriously,the 5th accuster has come forward now and it's hard to believe they all are lying........

Does Cain still have your vote relative to other Rebublican candidates going forward?

Hand
11-10-2011, 10:41
The media is biased, but Clinton was only the second president impeached, and lets not forget the recent Dim Weiner scandal. Either way I think Big Teddy nails it here;



Does Cain still have your vote relative to other Rebublican candidates going forward?

If sexual harassment is the worse thing that comes out, I will be glad to vote for him. The last guy we picked wound up being a socialist. At least we know where Herman Cain stands BEFORE we step to the ballot box.

akv
11-10-2011, 12:00
If sexual harassment is the worse thing that comes out, I will be glad to vote for him. The last guy we picked wound up being a socialist. At least we know where Herman Cain stands BEFORE we step to the ballot box.


It's a free county, but is there anyone who didn't know Obama was a socialist in 2008? The thing with Cain is people laud his integrity. Candor is great trait, however if you keep having to be candid about negative things at what point does this reflect upon character? Folks can say sexual harrasment isn't a big deal, until it's their wife or daughter on the receiving end.

Dusty
11-10-2011, 13:24
It's a free county, but is there anyone who didn't know Obama was a socialist in 2008? The thing with Cain is people laud his integrity. Candor is great trait, however if you keep having to be candid about negative things at what point does this reflect upon character? Folks can say sexual harrasment isn't a big deal, until it's their wife or daughter on the receiving end.

You must have been born after the feminazis took possession of the majority of the balls of American males.

BOfH
11-10-2011, 13:35
You must have been born after the feminazis took possession of the majority of the balls of American males.

That, and the media circus courtroom: Guilty until proven guilty, even if your innocent. QP Big Teddy has a good point though, there is strength in numbers

Follow the money: I am sure there are some generous payouts from the Dim warchest somewhere there...

akv
11-10-2011, 13:40
You must have been born after the feminazis took possession of the majority of the balls of American males.

Quite possible Sir, was that before or after Sally Rand did her fan thing? I too believe you should stick with the girl you brought to the dance, unless of course you catch her in the closet with half the football team, a donkey, two midgets and a gnu...

Dusty
11-10-2011, 13:48
Quite possible Sir, was that before or after Sally Rand did her fan thing? I too believe you should stick with the girl you brought to the dance, unless of course you catch her in the closet with half the football team, a donkey, two midgets and a gnu...

As long as you're sure it's a girl. :D

PedOncoDoc
11-10-2011, 13:55
As long as you're sure it's a girl. :D

But if you check before asking "her" out, it's sexual harrassment. And therein lies the conundrum....

BOfH
11-10-2011, 13:58
But if you check before asking "her" out, it's sexual harrassment. And therein lies the conundrum....

And if you refuse to go out with "her" I mean "him"...err..."it", because she is a he or he-she is an it, you'll get it for discrimination :rolleyes: :D

1stindoor
11-10-2011, 15:11
...catch her in the closet with half the football team, a donkey, two midgets and a gnu...

Not with a gnu...not again.

alright4u
11-10-2011, 20:41
Dusty's right on target............. :mad:

Big Teddy :munchin

I have a gut feeling Obama fears another black man like no other. Yes, I do not like this sex BS , and; what is troubling to me is the records of these womem. Now, one said her boy friend sent her to see Cain for a job. I was always told to not loan two things out. My car or woman. Either could get a rod slung in it. Now, perhaps I am old, stupid, and naive, but; I can only think of putting my hand up one woman's dress in my life , and; she was my wife. She had on panty hose in the 70's.You damn sure do not put your hand up a woman's dress you have never even kissed without getting slapped silly unless something is OK.

Why did this woman not say-"I pushed his hand away or I slapped him?" Why did a woman with a boyfriend meet a man in a damn hotel for a job, have a job interview over drinks, accept a hotel room, and; even an upgrade.

Teddy, ask your wife or daughter if this makes sense. It stinks to me.

This woman sounds like a high dollar escort.

stfesta
11-10-2011, 20:57
Why is all this happening now? Who is it coming from? When Cain ran for Senate....nothing.

President Obama took 96% of the black vote in 2008. If he would have taken 86% of the vote, he would have lost.

If there were two black candidates, there is a chance of a 50-50 vote among black voters. That means President Obama loses.

What does I almost filed charges mean? You either did or you didn't and if you didn't, you have no grounds to open your mouth now.

Lastly, if two parties agree on an outcome (which means both parties are happy) for something that happened 12-14 years ago, what business is it of mine (a third party) to not be OK with it.

Just my 2 cents.
sf

alright4u
11-10-2011, 21:12
[QUOTE=stfesta;423951]Why is all this happening now? Who is it coming from? When Cain ran for Senate....nothing.

President Obama took 96% of the black vote in 2008. If he would have taken 86%
Donna Donella, 40, of Arlington, said the USAID paid Cain to deliver a speech to businessmen and women in Egypt in 2002, during which an Egyptian businesswoman in her 30s asked Cain a question.

“And after the seminar was over,” Donella told The Washington Examiner, “Cain came over to me and a colleague and said, ‘Could you put me in touch with that lovely young lady who asked the question, so I can give her a more thorough answer over dinner?’”

Donella, who no longer works for USAID, said they were suspicious of Cain’s motives and declined to set up the date. Cain responded, “Then you and I can have dinner.” That’s when two female colleagues intervened and suggested they all go to dinner together, Donella said.

Cain exhibited no inappropriate sexual behavior during the dinner, though he did order two $400 bottles of wine and stuck the women with the bill, she said.

This was business event. There are always two expectations at business events: (1) the event itself–speeches, presentations, etc…, and (2) the making of business connections, which is done during after event activities–socializing during meals, drinks, etc… Eating dinner by yourself is considered highly unprofessional.

What is Cain first accused of doing here? Trying to arrange dinner with another business professional attending the event–exactly what you’re supposed to do at this type of event. Then what is he accused of? Trying to avoid eating by himself–the exact thing you are supposed to avoid at events like this.

Herman Cain acted exactly as you would expect a business person to act at an event such as this. Ms. Donella even says “Cain exhibted no inappropriate behavior”.

So exactly why was Ms. Donella ”suspicious of Cain’s motives” (other than the fact the he’s male)? She doesn’t say, and she gives no evidence that Cain acted in any way other than in the appropriate, expected manner.

There is no fifth Cain accusor, because there is no accusation here. Nothing, nada, zero, zip. Unless, being born male is considered grounds for an accusation, in which case 50% of the population is guilty before they’ve taken their first step.

There is no 5th Cain accusor, because no accusation has been made.

alelks
11-10-2011, 21:20
When it was Clinton, caught dead to rights, it wasn't even sex.

With any Republican, it's scandalous.

The mainstream media is a herd of whores.

Reminds me of this:

20510

stfesta
11-11-2011, 06:35
All of those are valid points.

One addition to your point:

If a female CEO would have offered dinner and drinks, it would have been seen as business networking. Because it is a man, and a black man to boot, there must be something wrong.

We have been conditioned for the past 25 years or so to look out for bad behavior. You can't have a meeting with you and a female without a third person or the door open, or both.

All of it is horsepoo.
sf

dadof18x'er
11-11-2011, 09:34
I hope so........

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57322894-503544/poll-cain-tops-3-way-race-with-romney-gingrich/

alright4u
11-11-2011, 10:04
You can't have a meeting with you and a female without a third person or the door open, or both.

Sadly, that is true. I fear it is true in not only civilian life, but; in the military,too. There is no darn way you could sell me on cultural support teams just using this as an example. I cannot picture cultural support team females going six-11 months with no sex when SFC Jones or CPT Smith are decent looking.


I hope the military thinks this crap through.

Richard
11-11-2011, 16:24
MOO - way too much smoke to deny there were never any fires. Too bad. Just sayin'...

Richard :munchin

Dusty
11-11-2011, 16:47
MOO - way too much smoke to deny there were never any fires. Too bad. Just sayin'...

Richard :munchin

Chicago tactics.

Here's how Chicagoans fight:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-video-shows-man-being-punched-at-red-line-stop-amid-laughs-and-taunts-20111111,0,5079572.story

Sdiver
11-11-2011, 17:25
The REAL Chicago way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ScvAJG51V4


:munchin

Gypsy
11-11-2011, 18:18
Why did a woman with a boyfriend meet a man in a damn hotel for a job, have a job interview over drinks, accept a hotel room, and; even an upgrade.



Exactly. It stinks to me as well.

Guy
11-11-2011, 18:32
MOO - way too much smoke to deny there were never any fires. Too bad. Just sayin'...

Richard :munchinAn allegation will damn near get you tossed off a contract.

I've seen plenty of smoke and NO fire however--it was to late. Just sayin'...;)

Stay safe.

SF18C
11-11-2011, 18:54
All of those are valid points.

One addition to your point:

If a female CEO would have offered dinner and drinks, it would have been seen as business networking. Because it is a man, and a black man to boot, there must be something wrong.

We have been conditioned for the past 25 years or so to look out for bad behavior. You can't have a meeting with you and a female without a third person or the door open, or both.

All of it is horsepoo.
sf


How's a guy suppose to get any???? Back when I was dating, that was the exact the method...dinner, a few drinks, maybe some dancing...then boom ask her if she wants to head back to her place, your place, or hell, even the car!!!:D

Sigaba
11-11-2011, 19:03
MOO, the questions should center primarily around Mr. Cain's judgement and his conduct: What was he thinking? What did he do? Why did he not have a plan in place to deal with allegations that he knew would surface?

Mr. Cain grew up in Jim Crow America. He's a Morehouse man. And he put himself at risk in the aftermath of the Clarance Thomas hearings, the circus of O.J. Simpson's trial, and the myriad ongoing controversies surrounding Bill Clinton under the growing poison of "Gotcha" politics in the Beltway. What was he thinking?

My $0.02. YMMV.

The Reaper
11-11-2011, 19:15
MOO, the questions should center primarily around Mr. Cain's judgement and his conduct: What was he thinking? What did he do? Why did he not have a plan in place to deal with allegations that he knew would surface?

Mr. Cain grew up in Jim Crow America. He's a Morehouse man. And he put himself at risk in the aftermath of the Clarance Thomas hearings, the circus of O.J. Simpson's trial, and the myriad ongoing controversies surrounding Bill Clinton under the growing poison of "Gotcha" politics in the Beltway. What was he thinking?

My $0.02. YMMV.

I am sorry, did I oversleep and miss the trial where he was convicted of any of these allegations?

Or is any allegation made by someone else, without outside witnesses or supporting evidence, adequate to assume guilt on his part?

The Dims took out ads for people to make allegations against promintent Repubs, FOR CASH REWARDS! IMHO, a few may have collected.

TR

Sigaba
11-11-2011, 19:25
I am sorry, did I oversleep and miss the trial where he was convicted of any of these allegations?

Or is any allegation made by someone else, without outside witnesses or supporting evidence, adequate to assume guilt on his part?

The Dims took out ads for people to make allegations against promintent Repubs, FOR CASH REWARDS! IMHO, a few may have collected.

TRTR--

With respect, I'm making a cultural, social, and political argument.

For better and worse, we're in an age where every aspect of a presidential candidate's past is subject to scrutiny. For the last several years, tough questions have been asked about the current president. He's been criticized for not answering many of those questions.

Who ever the GOP nominates for the 2012 presidential election must demonstrate the ability to pass a similar vetting.

Richard
11-11-2011, 19:36
This isn't 'The Comedy Zone'???? :confused:

Richard :munchin

GratefulCitizen
11-11-2011, 19:36
After nearly a half-century working various jobs, it is truly amazing that Herman Cain decided to do so much of his harassing during a brief stint with the NRA.
It's also amazing that Cain was foolish enough to target women from the politically-unfriendly Chicago area.

It's yet even more amazing that all sorts of similar well-timed accusations landed on the president's primary opponent (Blair Hull) during his Senate bid (Chicago area -- hmmm...).
It defies belief that more well-timed accusations landed on the president's general election opponent (Jack Ryan).

The president sure is a lucky candidate to have one threatening opponent after another be such scumbags, and have accusations surface at politically convenient times.
Ignore all that smoke around the president, you've got kool-aid which needs drinking.

stfesta
11-11-2011, 20:29
For better and worse, we're in an age where every aspect of a presidential candidate's past are subject to scrutiny. For the last several years, tough questions have been asked about the current president. He's been criticized for not answering many of those questions.


Sig,
I couldn't disagree with you more.

Who looked at President Obama's past? He admitted to cocaine use in his book. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He closed all of his files from college. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He didn't produce a birth certificate. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He took advice from William Ayers. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He refuses to hand over documents concerning Solyndra. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

If you meant that any Republican candidate will be scrutinized, then you are correct.

The American people elected a "leader" that voted "present" over 700 times as a Senator. Not yes or no, "present".

An accusation is just that.

Everyone is losing their minds over an accusation for something that may or may not have taken place over a decade ago.

It took a stained blue dress for anyone to come to terms with Bill Clinton's indiscretions and he was still a hero.

sf

Last hard class
11-11-2011, 20:50
After reading this thread, I am glad it’s in the comedy zone. So now we are using Clinton as the litmus test for integrity? That is funny.

There was a thread around here about facts being stubborn things. I would argue that facts are facts and people are stubborn. Doesn’t matter who leaked it or what their motives are. Blame it on Perry, race or the Democrat machine, the Cain media people can threaten lawsuits and continue to spin it until time slows down. This mess is sticking to the wall because of two facts: 1) cash settlements for alleged inappropriate behavior were paid. (I have no personal knowledge if he acted improperly or not) 2) When first asked, Cain flat out lied claiming he had no knowledge of the settlements. (I saw this on TV with my own eyes) This second fact seems to be overlooked by many.

Denying the facts and making counter accusations makes you stubborn.
Or SF.:D

I know a lot of people here like Cain and I respect that. IMO, unless he gets ahead of this issue, just like my money at Breeders Cup last weekend, when we hit the final stretch, you will be riding the wrong horse.

Note:
Keeping with my no rebuttal policy concerning controversial issues on this forum I will consider any and all replies the final say. Hopefully you will have the courtesy to give a brother a reach around when you’re bending me over the table.



LHC

Sigaba
11-11-2011, 21:04
Sig,
I couldn't disagree with you more.

Who looked at President Obama's past? He admitted to cocaine use in his book. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He closed all of his files from college. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He didn't produce a birth certificate. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He took advice from William Ayers. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

He refuses to hand over documents concerning Solyndra. Did anyone dig deeper? No.

If you meant that any Republican candidate will be scrutinized, then you are correct.

The American people elected a "leader" that voted "present" over 700 times as a Senator. Not yes or no, "present".QP stfesta--

We could add other questions that the current president failed to address to your list.* While millions of Americans decided that the man's evasions were adequate, others continue to raise the questions.

It is my view that if we Republicans do not apply a similar level of questioning to our own prospective candidates, the opposition will notice and that they will raise that point next year. That is, regardless of the standards Democrats apply to their leaders, Republicans need to be consistent across the board. In matters of alleged sexual misconduct, this need--given our position on Bill Clinton's peccadilloes--is especially pressing.

I am not saying a Republican has to be a eunuch to be a viable candidate but we do need to make sure he or she can keep it in his pants--especially when dealing with subordinates.

Moreover, based upon the sobering lessons learned from the Clarence Thomas hearings, we need to be mindful of the persistence of certain cultural sensibilities. As distasteful and as anachronistic as these lingering viewpoints may be, silence, denial, indignation, and wishful thinking are going to make them go away.

An accusation is just that.

Everyone is losing their minds over an accusation for something that may or may not have taken place over a decade ago.

It took a stained blue dress for anyone to come to terms with Bill Clinton's indiscretions and he was still a hero.

sfPerception is reality.

Mr. Cain wants to be perceived as a man who can navigate the nation through an era of complex problems. Yet he's not demonstrated the ability to solve one that he's known about for years.

__________________________________________________ _________
* I still want to know how the president could sit in the Reverend Wright's congregation for years and not notice that the man from whom he took spiritual guidance is filled with hate.

Paragrouper
11-11-2011, 21:26
QP stfesta--

We could add other questions that the current president failed to address to your list.* While millions of Americans decided that the man's evasions were adequate, others continue to raise the questions.

It is my view that if we Republicans do not apply a similar level of questioning to our own prospective candidates, the opposition will notice and that they will raise that point next year. That is, regardless of the standards Democrats apply to their leaders, Republicans need to be consistent across the board. In matters of alleged sexual misconduct, this need--given our position on Bill Clinton's peccadilloes--is especially pressing.

I am not saying a Republican has to be a eunuch to be a viable candidate but we do need to make sure he or she can keep it in his pants--especially when dealing with subordinates.

Moreover, based upon the sobering lessons learned from the Clarence Thomas hearings, we need to be mindful of the persistence of certain cultural sensibilities. As distasteful and as anachronistic as these lingering viewpoints may be, silence, denial, indignation, and wishful thinking are going to make them go away.

Perception is reality.

Mr. Cain wants to be perceived as a man who can navigate the nation through an era of complex problems. Yet he's not demonstrated the ability to solve one that he's known about for years.

__________________________________________________ _________
* I still want to know how the president could sit in the Reverend Wright's congregation for years and not notice that the man from whom he took spiritual guidance is filled with hate.


You presume guilt. Funny thing about the charges leveled; there are no witnesses. Another funny thing--pointed out earlier in this thread but well worth repeating--the timing of these accusations are impeccable.

Guy
11-11-2011, 21:40
Perception is reality.'Your' perception is 'your' reality.:cool:

Stay safe.

PSM
11-11-2011, 21:53
It seems that some serious observations and discussions have surfaced in this Comedy Zone thread. :munchin

Pat

Sigaba
11-11-2011, 22:18
'Your' perception is 'your' reality.:cool:

Stay safe.QP Guy--

With respect, it isn't my perception that is at issue. Source is here (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/11/11/polls-gingrich-grows-on-gop-voters/).But Mr. Cain faces a gender gap: nearly four in 10 women said the allegations make them less likely to vote for him, and his support among women fell to 15% from 28% a month ago.And there (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57322894-503544/poll-cain-tops-3-way-race-with-romney-gingrich/).Six in 10 Republican primary voters say the charges of sexual harassment against Cain make no difference to their vote. Still, 30 percent say the charges make them less likely to support him.

Richard
11-11-2011, 22:21
So a Repug, a Dim, and an Imam walk into this biker bar...

Richard :munchin

Guy
11-12-2011, 00:59
So a Repug, a Dim, and an Imam walk into this biker bar...

Richard :munchinAnd they all emerged holding hands with Gloria Allred accusing Cain of sexual harassment from up-teen years ago....

Stay safe.

Richard
11-12-2011, 06:37
And they all emerged holding hands with Gloria Allred accusing Cain of sexual harassment from up-teen years ago...

Not the way I heard it. ;)

...and encounter an agitated Herman Cain, seated at the bar and talking on his cell, saying, "For the third time, that IS NOT my pass code! It's K as in knight...G as in gnu...P as in psychologist...x as in xylophone..."

Think about it. ;)

Richard :munchin

Box
11-12-2011, 06:46
TR--

With respect, I'm making a cultural, social, and political argument.

For better and worse, we're in an age where every aspect of a presidential candidate's past is subject to scrutiny. For the last several years, tough questions have been asked about the current president. He's been criticized for not answering many of those questions.

Who ever the GOP nominates for the 2012 presidential election must demonstrate the ability to pass a similar vetting.


I would disagree...
...the last man to win a general election didn't face much vetting.

Ret10Echo
11-12-2011, 07:19
Had to double check..."Comedy Zone"... Ok, I'm good with this....

stfesta
11-12-2011, 07:36
I think all three of us have valid points.

I have no plans of bending anyone over or a reach around.

I do like Cain and I have for many years. I think if he gets elected, it will be a bumpy start (a business man navigating the political waters).

In my humble opinion, any one of the Republican candidates will do a better job than PBO.

Those are my $0.02.

sf

Richard
11-12-2011, 08:01
Back to the original theme of the thread...

One of the Herman Cain women was paid $35,000 and another was paid $45,000, so he's saying it just proves he can create high-paying jobs for women. I'd like to see the women and find out what the $10,000 difference was. :p

–Jay Leno

Richard :munchin

Dusty
11-12-2011, 09:48
Anybody: "It's hot."

Sig: "Is it really hot? Is it not a construct of the space-sun manifestation elaborated upon here, here and here? Do we facilitate self-empathy when we declare such?"

The Reaper
11-12-2011, 09:50
TR--

With respect, I'm making a cultural, social, and political argument.

For better and worse, we're in an age where every aspect of a presidential candidate's past is subject to scrutiny. For the last several years, tough questions have been asked about the current president. He's been criticized for not answering many of those questions.

Who ever the GOP nominates for the 2012 presidential election must demonstrate the ability to pass a similar vetting.

Where was this scrutiny of the current POTUS and his history?

TR

Paragrouper
11-12-2011, 10:19
Anybody: "It's hot."

Sig: "Is it really hot? Is it not a construct of the space-sun manifestation elaborated upon here, here and here? Do we facilitate self-empathy when we declare such?"

That was off the top rope, Dusty :D

orion5
11-12-2011, 12:00
Anybody: "It's hot."

Sig: "Is it really hot? Is it not a construct of the space-sun manifestation elaborated upon here, here and here? Do we facilitate self-empathy when we declare such?"

LMAO! Sig, he got you on that one.

On a serious note, by today's definition of "sexual harassment," I have been harassed at every job I've ever held. I've never filed a lawsuit or gone to HR for resolution. I've never stood around the water cooler and bitched about how I'd been victimized. With the women I've known who utilized those avenues, it didn't work out well for them.

Was some of the behavior I'd encountered embarrassing? Yes, even humiliating. But in my experience, I found 99% of the men who harassed me were frustrated with something going on at work and I happened to be in their blast radius (i.e. it wasn't necessarily personal towards me). Men struggle with roles/genders in today's workplace just like women do. I found it better to wait till the situation cooled down, then have a private 1x1 with the guy later to let him know what I didn't like, have a laugh about it, and move on.

I am too suspicious of a woman who didn't manage the situation X number of years ago and now wants to sue. Pathetic.

Cain might have done it, I have no idea, but I extremely disagree with women bringing stuff like this up now - even if it was towards a Democrat candidate.

Gypsy
11-12-2011, 12:36
Anybody: "It's hot."

Sig: "Is it really hot? Is it not a construct of the space-sun manifestation elaborated upon here, here and here? Do we facilitate self-empathy when we declare such?"


Post of the day. Maybe even the week. :D

GratefulCitizen
11-12-2011, 13:12
So a Repug, a Dim, and an Imam walk into this biker bar...

Richard :munchin

Cain, Gingrich, Romney, and Perry are the bartenders.

Cain quickly takes down the "help wanted" sign and tells the Imam that he doensn't hire muslims.

Gingrich tells the Dim that the bar is shut down because he feels he was insulted.

Romney walks into the back of a smoke-filled room with the Repug.

Perry tells two of the three to leave, and then stares at the third while stuttering and stammering for the next 53 seconds.

greenberetTFS
11-12-2011, 13:50
Post of the day. Maybe even the week. :D

Agreed,made my day......:p You have to keep Dusty in reserve and only use him when it's absolutely necessary.....:cool:

Big Teddy :munchin

greenberetTFS
11-12-2011, 14:18
I have a gut feeling Obama fears another black man like no other. Yes, I do not like this sex BS , and; what is troubling to me is the records of these women. Now, one said her boy friend sent her to see Cain for a job. I was always told to not loan two things out. My car or woman. Either could get a rod slung in it. Now, perhaps I am old, stupid, and naive, but; I can only think of putting my hand up one woman's dress in my life , and; she was my wife. She had on panty hose in the 70's.You damn sure do not put your hand up a woman's dress you have never even kissed without getting slapped silly unless something is OK.

Why did this woman not say-"I pushed his hand away or I slapped him?" Why did a woman with a boyfriend meet a man in a damn hotel for a job, have a job interview over drinks, accept a hotel room, and; even an upgrade.

Teddy, ask your wife or daughter if this makes sense. It stinks to me.

This woman sounds like a high dollar escort.

a4u,

Maggie agrees,something just doesn't sound right regarding her accusation,it smells kinda fishy.....:eek:

Big Teddy Big Teddy :munchin

Sigaba
11-12-2011, 14:41
Where was this scrutiny of the current POTUS and his history?

TRIf nowhere else, this scrutiny took place here and a BB set up to support then Senator Clinton. FWIW, among my friends who are life long Democrats, similar questions are being raised belatedly.

LMAO! Sig, he got you on that one.
So what else is new?:D
Post of the day. Maybe even the week. :D

That it is.:lifter

The quip tops a zinger I got nailed with a few years back after going on at length WRT the misogynistic undertones in the Jurassic Park films.

A coworker eyed me coolly and said "And I thought they were movies about dinosaurs."

Whatever.:boohoo

Sdiver
11-12-2011, 14:43
Smells fishy alright ......

:munchin


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....... and cue Sig ...... :D

Sten
11-12-2011, 15:45
If this is a democratic attack I would be surprised, why not hold it till he is the nominee? This looks to me that it was launched by Cain's camp, when he gets past it he will not have to face it in the general election, if he ca not get past it then it would have sunk him in the general election and shot the party in the foot.

Lets face it this election is not about getting republicans to vote for a Republican, it is knife fighting for the 10% of undecided/independent voters. The base voters for the red or blue teams will vote for a bag of cat shit if their party nominates them and puts them on the general election ballot.

Badger52
11-15-2011, 06:51
Anybody: "It's hot."

Sig: "Is it really hot? Is it not a construct of the space-sun manifestation elaborated upon here, here and here? Do we facilitate self-empathy when we declare such?"This should ride at the top of American Countdown for several weeks. Most comedic contribution to this thread.

Now... where are those monitor wipes... and where's my damn coffee cup?