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Surgicalcric
10-18-2011, 10:42
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/well-stop-puberty-so-tommy-can-become-tammy/story-e6frf7lf-1226169281540

A LESBIAN couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty, so that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

The couple's supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender.

"This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."

But critics of the treatment say 11-year-olds are not old enough to make life-altering decisions about changing their gender, and parents should not be encouraging them.

"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.

"It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it in this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists. We shouldn't be mucking around with nature. We can't assume what the outcome will be," Professor McHugh said.

Dr Manny Alvarez, senior managing health editor of FOXNews.com, said the hormone blockers also may pose a medical risk.

"Potential long-term effects can include other abnormalities of hormones, vascular complications and even potential cancer. I think that if this child - as he finishes his puberty and teenage years - decides to undergo a transgender procedure, then there are proper channels to do so," Dr Alvarez said.

"But to do it at the age of 11, to me, could be potentially dangerous to the health of this child," he said.

Tommy's parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, told CNN they support their child and feel this is the best way for him to find an answer to a question he has been asking all his life.

They say Tommy - whom they now call Tammy -- began taking GnRH inhibitors over the summer to give him more time to explore the female gender identity with which he associates.

Tommy began saying he was a girl when he was three years old, his parents said. He was learning sign language due to a speech impediment, and one of the first things he told his mothers was, "I am a girl."

The child's parents also said Tommy threatened to mutilate his genitals when he was seven, and psychiatrists diagnosed a gender identity disorder. One year later, he began transitioning to Tammy.

After much deliberation with family and therapists, the child began taking hormone blockers a few months ago. The medication, which must be changed once a year, was implanted in the boy's upper left arm.

Tommy will continue the treatment until he turns 14 or 15, at which point he will be taken off the blockers and pursue the gender he feels is the right one.


So, presuming people are born the way they are and it isnt a matter of "choice" why the need for drugs to allow a "choice" to be made?

Leave it to a couple people pushing their agenda to ruin a child's life to make a point...

Honestly this story made me sick to my stomach last night so badly that I couldnt finish my beer...thats some serious nausea.

Team Sergeant
10-18-2011, 10:52
A new world order is emerging......

This is what happens when perversions take over.

greenberetTFS
10-18-2011, 11:23
What legal ramifications are available to Child Health Services?.....:(

"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.

Big Teddy :munchin

roosevelt83
10-18-2011, 11:25
This makes me sick. What is this world coming to?

Stingray
10-18-2011, 11:28
At three years old one of mine was telling me she was a cat. That didnt make her a cat. It made her three years old. Now if she were raised by two cats I would probably add confused in addition to being three years old to the list of explainations. Eleven is far too young to make decisions like this. I feel sorry for the kid.
Just my .02 cents.

SF-TX
10-18-2011, 12:21
Reminds me of these idiots, except that it appears Tommy does not have the luxury of choice:

Toronto parents hide child's gender in bid for neutral treatment (http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Toronto+parents+hide+child+gender+neutral+treatmen t/4837762/story.html)

Parents Keep 2-Year-Old's Gender a Secret (http://www.parentdish.com/2009/06/30/parents-keep-2-year-olds-gender-a-secret/)

Team Sergeant
10-18-2011, 13:36
I'm just thinking out loud but I believe there's a reason Nature decided not to allow LESBIAN's the ability to procreate......

And now "Man" has decided to upset that balance.

What would Charles say?

GratefulCitizen
10-18-2011, 13:52
The change from viewing homosexuality as a mental illness to normal varation of behavior wasn't rooted in scientific study.
The change was due to political pressure.

Not saying it is or isn't.
Just saying that the change was a political decision, not a scientific one.

Requiem
10-18-2011, 13:55
At three years old one of mine was telling me she was a cat. That didnt make her a cat. It made her three years old. Now if she were raised by two cats I would probably add confused in addition to being three years old to the list of explainations. Eleven is far too young to make decisions like this. I feel sorry for the kid.
Just my .02 cents.

Exactly. That kid has probably heard "man-bashing" by lesbians his whole short life, to the point that he thinks the only option is to not be a man himself. Sick.

S.

roosevelt83
10-18-2011, 13:56
He would say that they will weed themselves out, as in anything in life. Off topic, gays/lesbians should not be allowed to have surrogates or in vitro. It wasn't intended. That being said, if a child is going to be thrown into a trash can in China, or a needy child is in the U.S., that is fine. Back on topic, this is wrong for so many ways. The problem is that hardcore liberals/uneducated people looking for something to argue (i.e. occupy wall street) are going to support this, and in 50 years we are going to be transforming 3 year old into dogs if that's what they want to be. This has to end now.

Are you truly ruining a child's life? Well, if this truly is not a "choice" then people have assumed that they are trapped in the wrong sex' body for thousands of years. Or maybe they just weren't exposed to all this liberal junk that rots your brain and tells you to go against what is right. Maybe they didn't see Chaz Bono on Dancing With the Stars, and see everyone applauding him/her on how "brave" he is for having a sex change. Granted he is an adult, but it's filth and should not be encouraged.

PedOncoDoc
10-18-2011, 14:03
Anyone seeking attention for this, and clearly pushing an agenda raises serious concerns.

How much brainwashing/conditioning has been done throughout the child's life?

Did the "mothers" hear the boy say he was a girl (an earnest question of gender identity that is developmentally apprpriate at 3 years of age) and reward him for the statement?

He could have been programmed through rewards/punishments given for certain behaviors to think his gender was wrong from an early age.


I would like to think most parents facing an issue such as this would want it to remain private.

Roguish Lawyer
10-18-2011, 14:13
Serious child abuse here, totally sickening

akv
10-18-2011, 14:39
This is disgusting child abuse. :mad:

Last hard class
10-18-2011, 15:30
Honestly this story made me sick to my stomach last night so badly that I couldnt finish my beer...thats some serious nausea.

As a professional, you have to work above it.:D


LHC

Paslode
10-18-2011, 15:41
This is what when Paraphilias become the norm.

Gypsy
10-18-2011, 17:34
Exactly. That kid has probably heard "man-bashing" by lesbians his whole short life, to the point that he thinks the only option is to not be a man himself. Sick.

S.

My first thought. I personally feel it's child abuse.

Crip, suck it up and drink your beer. :D

s
10-19-2011, 05:45
That's what happens when people don't set reasonable boundaries, especially to themselves. I'm just sorry the poor kid's growing up in such a disturbed environment. Hormone therapy to an 11 years old is just insanity, plain and simple. And the poor excuse his legal guardians (sorry, but I refuse to refer to the two women as parents) found is just a reflection of their mindset and view. It's even more outrageous and hypocritical since they're masking it as freedom of choice granted to the minor assigned to their custody. What would an 11 yrs old know about such a choice, other than being biased by the constant bashing against men typical of most lesbians, as someone has already pointed out?
The law should put an end to this nonsense. :mad::mad::mad:

Hand
10-19-2011, 08:01
Exactly. That kid has probably heard "man-bashing" by lesbians his whole short life, to the point that he thinks the only option is to not be a man himself. Sick.

S.

I think you hit the bulls eye with that comment. I have had the recent fortune/misfortune to spend a short time on the fringes of the surprisingly large lesbian community where I live. They are ABSOLUTELY anti-male. In their mind, men with balls are worthless except for the content of those balls. They are absolutely adamant about this. Futhermore, they have a propensity to absorb the swishy, slurring sissy soft homosexuals into their circles. The male children of lesbians are surrounded by super elevated estrogen soaked environments, and their only exposure to 'men' is what they see of these swishy wierd soft 'guys'. Lesbians absolutely shun men with spines (which is why my exposure to them was short). :lifter

The generation of 'gender confused' children of same sex parents has no hope of understanding the world correctly. As the Team Sargent alluded, this is not the way things are supposed to work. That 'gender confusion' is going to eventually lead to 'societal confusion'.

My disgusted 0.02.

Sigaba
10-19-2011, 09:11
He [Darwin] would say that they will weed themselves out, as in anything in life.

Or Charles Darwin might say "let theory guide your observations but till your reputation is well established be sparing in publishing theory. It makes people doubt your observations." *




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* Charles Darwin to John Scott on 6 June 1863. Francis Darwin, ed., More Letters of Charles Darwin (1903), 2:323, as quoted in ISBN-0521357454, page 36, footnote 22.