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skylinedrive
10-16-2011, 22:49
Train Track Attacks
Debate over 'Leftist Terrorism' Erupts in Germany
By Florian Gathmann

So far, authorities have found at least 17 incendiary devices near German rail facilities in and around Berlin this week. Many are concerned that the country is seeing the beginnings of a wave of leftist terror. But others, including left-wing extremists themselves, aren't so sure.

A conversation with Rainer Wendt these days is enough to make anybody nervous. Wendt is the head of the German Police Union, one of two police unions in the country. And he says that the recent series of attacks on German rail facilities in and near Berlin this week has convinced him that Germany is seeing the beginnings of a new wave of left-wing extremist violence.

He speaks of a "renaissance of the Red Army Faction," the terror group which perpetrated dozens of killings in Germany over three decades starting in the early 1970s. We are witnessing the "beginnings of leftist terrorism," he says.

He isn't alone in his assessment. Hans-Werner Wargel, head of the office for the protection of the constitution in Lower Saxony, spoke of "parallels to the 'Revolutionary Cells' which were active into the 1990s" in comments to the daily Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung. The group he mentioned was responsible for several arson attacks over the course of two decades and was listed as a terror group by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

Transport Minister Peter Ramsauer has also spoken of "criminal terrorist attacks" with Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich expressing concern over "increasing left-wing extremism."

The hyperbole is understandable. Since Monday, police and train officials have discovered 17 incendiary devices planted next to train tracks and near signalling equipment in Berlin and in the surrounding area. Two of them have gone off. Though no injuries have yet been reported, the discoveries have resulted in significant train delays and several cancellations.

Never a Danger

A group calling itself Hekla released an online statement earlier this week claiming responsibility for the firebombs and condemning Germany's involvement in Afghanistan. It also demanded the release of the US soldier Bradley Manning, who stands accused of leaking US diplomatic dispatches and other sensitive documents to the whistle-blowing platform WikiLeaks.

Now, in response to the increasing terror accusations, the group has released a second statement, denying that it is involved in terrorism. The incendiary devices never posed a danger to people, says the statement, posted on a leftist website on Thursday. The aim was merely to "disrupt the signal and data communication."

Exactly who might be behind the attacks remains a mystery. Partly as a result of the initial statement claiming responsibility, investigators are assuming political motivations. Federal prosecutors have now become involved in the investigation and are looking into "unconstitutional sabotage." German rail provider Deutsche Bahn, which said this week that passengers were never in danger, has also promised a reward of €100,000 for information leading to an arrest.

Still, despite the rising concern in the German capital, many have urged restraint. Wolfgang Bosbach, a domestic policy expert with Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats and a member of German parliament, told SPIEGEL ONLINE that it "clearly is more than just a prank, it shows a lot of criminal energy." But he is not ready to equate it with left-wing terrorism. "We should be careful of understating things," he said, "but nor should we overstate them."

Konstantin von Notz, a parliamentarian with the Green Party, has also argued for reserve. "I would warn against upgrading the deed by way of an overly shrill debate," he said. "A quick and successful investigation should be in the foreground -- and not a debate over alleged new left-wing terrorism or even a new RAF before we know more about the perpetrators and their background."

Vehement Condemnation from the Left

Dieter Wiefelspütz from the center-left Social Democrats said that, while it is true that some left-wing terrorists began their careers as arsonists, "not every arsonist is destined to become a terrorist."

German law would tend to agree. According to a federal court ruling in November 2007, politically motivated arson can only be considered terrorism if it poses considerable danger to the state. The ruling concerned a leftist organization called the "militant group," which since then has been designated merely a criminal group by officials. Prosecuting groups under German terror laws is not a straightforward proposition.

The left-wing extremist scene in Germany is not impressed with the attacks. Many have ridiculed the perpetrators for being amateurs or have vehemently condemned the operation.

"Your 'campaign,'" reads one representative comment in a left-wing forum, "is about the stupidest thing that I have seen in recent years."




http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,791715,00.html

mojaveman
10-16-2011, 23:16
Is anyone 100% sure that these acts are being committed left-wingers and not Islamic terrorists?

Dusty
10-17-2011, 06:53
Is anyone 100% sure that these acts are being committed left-wingers and not Islamic terrorists?

There's a difference?

greenberetTFS
10-17-2011, 13:15
There's a difference?

Your right,no difference really!........:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

Tress
10-17-2011, 15:13
Article quoted:

A group calling itself Hekla released an online statement earlier this week claiming responsibility for the firebombs and condemning Germany's involvement in Afghanistan.

It is interesting that this new group takes the name of one of the more active volcanoes on the planet. I wonder if it will be as prolific as its namesake.

Tress

-Jas-
10-17-2011, 18:35
Is anyone 100% sure that these acts are being committed left-wingers and not Islamic terrorists?

Yep that has been confirmed. Also the goals proclaimed by the group are, well not really alongt with those of islamic terrorist groups.

Anti Bank, anti globalization, anti free market without gouvernment control. The thing is though. Despite them being immensly stupid lunatics their "goals" or critic points are actually representing a majority of German citizens.

Recent polls aiming for various questions about recent economic development and gouvernmental decisions clearly show a move to the left. And the fun thing? People are not even aware of this. Because the ruling parties, the christian democratic party and the liberals (don´t get confused here the libs are extremely conservative from your point of view) are not acting according to their reputation but opportunistic. For years it´s been hard to actually make a point and stand ground for one party, ´cause differences between them vanished and it all became on big mudhole.

That again lead into another problem. Without a real opposition with clear goals and recognizable statutes the old fashioned way of changing something in a democracy - by vote or demonstration that influences one became redundant.

Peaking in the recent election of the state parliament and state prime minister of Baden Württemberg in the ongoing aftermath of a public controversy about a train station in the city of Stuttgart (yeah no shit - that caused the biggest nationwide outcry with millions on the street - a freakin train station).
In that election the green party, propably the only distinguished party in some topics, won their first state election ever and even got to name the new prime minister. All the voters hoped for a change in the train station subject (into not building it for enviromental and economic reasons) but even the green party had to admit (of course after the election) that there are basically contracts and there is no real choice for them other than building that damn station.

I think that´s when people lost their hope in politics and change. And eventually that lead into those terrorist attacks on tracks (ahh the connection) and trains.

Will this affect german politics? Not yet but with ongoing incidents definately. Why? Because it´s Germany. And we abandoned "guts in politics" long before we became Europe´s leading nation. (which we basically are, at least since the economic downfall of 2009).

I just hope our gouvernment is smart enough to not(!) send massive police force against those protestors and lunatics but tries to convince people that this is just the wrong way. No clue how they can do this anyway...

mojaveman
10-17-2011, 19:34
Anti Bank, anti globalization, anti free market without gouvernment control. The thing is though. Despite them being immensly stupid lunatics their "goals" or critic points are actually representing a majority of German citizens.

Peaking in the recent election of the state parliament and state prime minister of Baden Württemberg in the ongoing aftermath of a public controversy about a train station in the city of Stuttgart (yeah no shit - that caused the biggest nationwide outcry with millions on the street - a freakin train station).

Their agenda sounds a little similiar to that of the Bader-Meinhoff Gang, later the Red Army Faction. Makes one wonder if leftist philosophy and activism in Germany or Europe for that matter is cyclical.

Where would a new train station in Stuttgart be built? The original Hauptbahnhof is huge and sits right at the end of the Koenigstrasse. I was a GI there 30 years ago.