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It's too early for a poll, but I'm announcing my prediction for the 2012 presidential election winner now, so that I can say "I told you so" in 13 months.
It's too early for a poll, but I'm announcing my prediction for the 2012 presidential election winner now, so that I can say "I told you so" in 13 months.
:munchin
It's too early for a poll, but I'm announcing my prediction for the 2012 presidential election winner now, so that I can say "I told you so" in 13 months.
Okay.....who?
Herman Cain.
My personal favorite-problem is, he's taking giant steps with his proposals (a la 999, etc.) that people can't chew yet.
My personal favorite-problem is, he's taking giant steps with his proposals (a la 999, etc.) that people can't chew yet.
I agree with that, I would love a flat tax....but a lot to chew, especially when ya talk about doing away with or downsizing a major gov't office (IRS)..
also his stance on second amendment...to the states????
Not to many folks gonna like that..especialy the ones working there...
I'm still undecided...
Newt Gingrich
He isn't even going to get the nomination. You're projecting.
He isn't even going to get the nomination. You're projecting.
I know. I'm old, and I'm good at elections and the weather. :D
ZonieDiver
10-13-2011, 10:25
No one will win enough delegates to win on a first ballot at the convention. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth, and a bitter floor fight. After the third ballot, a "white knight" will appear - Daniels or Christie... or ????
Cain will be VP nominee.
You heard it here first. (But I have been reading too many old Allen Drury novels of late... :D)
rubberneck
10-13-2011, 12:42
My personal favorite-problem is, he's taking giant steps with his proposals (a la 999, etc.) that people can't chew yet.
It's not that they can't chew as much as they don't want to. The 50% that doesn't pay any federal income tax looks at it and realizes that they'd actually have to bare some of the burden. I'm tired of paying income tax when so many people in the country skate year in and year out.
It's not that they can't chew as much as they don't want to. The 50% that doesn't pay any federal income tax looks at it and realizes that they'd actually have to bare some of the burden. I'm tired of paying income tax when so many people in the country skate year in and year out.
That's part of it.
Also, people are gunshy when it comes to a candidate not having held public office.
Mormonism's gonna hurt Romney more than people think right now, and ask Richard about Perry. Texan presidents are for blaming stuff on.
Gingrich isn't exactly bleach-white, but he came in with the Contract 19 years ago that's very similar to what many people feel is needed, now; many of the people who were glad to see him last time will be at the polls next November-many who, believe it or not, voted for Barry Soetero in '08.
I think Newt can re-focus people's disgust-away from Wall Street and on the true culprits-scumbags in the vein of Frank, Raines and Dodd.
Newt's Toast.
His time has come and gone.
Once again the Conservatives will split their votes in the early primaries - which is why some of the larger state parties are trying to move them up. Why should Iowa and NH have so much say in who the Republicans pick?
The primaries will allow the "Moderate" to float to the top AGAIN - POing the base where they will sit it out or go third party - a few but just enough.
President Obama wins a second term.
That's part of it.
Also, people are gunshy when it comes to a candidate not having held public office.
Mormonism's gonna hurt Romney more than people think right now, and ask Richard about Perry. Texan presidents are for blaming stuff on.
Gingrich isn't exactly bleach-white, but he came in with the Contract 19 years ago that's very similar to what many people feel is needed, now; many of the people who were glad to see him last time will be at the polls next November-many who, believe it or not, voted for Barry Soetero in '08.
I think Newt can re-focus people's disgust-away from Wall Street and on the true culprits-scumbags in the vein of Frank, Raines and Dodd.
I think Newt has the experience and the knowledge. His trouble is that he is such a lightening rod for independents and libs. If he got the nomination, BHO might be able to get the same turnout that he did three years ago.
Newt's Toast.
His time has come and gone.
Once again the Conservatives will split their votes in the early primaries - which is why some of the larger state parties are trying to move them up. Why should Iowa and NH have so much say in who the Republicans pick?
The primaries will allow the "Moderate" to float to the top AGAIN - POing the base where they will sit it out or go third party - a few but just enough.
President Obama wins a second term.
If Obama wins (up and up election), I'll buy you a basic Sebenza.
If Newt wins, you buy me one.
If any other Repub wins, nothin'. (?)
Roguish Lawyer
10-13-2011, 14:56
Newt's Toast.
His time has come and gone.
Once again the Conservatives will split their votes in the early primaries - which is why some of the larger state parties are trying to move them up. Why should Iowa and NH have so much say in who the Republicans pick?
The primaries will allow the "Moderate" to float to the top AGAIN - POing the base where they will sit it out or go third party - a few but just enough.
President Obama wins a second term.
Aren't you a ray of freaking sunshine
Aren't you a ray of freaking sunshine
Yup...good 'ol pete....LOL :)
USANick7
10-18-2011, 14:29
Newt's Toast.
His time has come and gone.
Once again the Conservatives will split their votes in the early primaries - which is why some of the larger state parties are trying to move them up. Why should Iowa and NH have so much say in who the Republicans pick?
The primaries will allow the "Moderate" to float to the top AGAIN - POing the base where they will sit it out or go third party - a few but just enough.
President Obama wins a second term.
Im currently working against Romney as hard as I am for other conservatives for just that reason...Romney Triangulation Strategy (http://culpeperrepublican.com/2011/10/05/the-romney-triangulation-strategy/)
greenberetTFS
10-18-2011, 15:52
Herman Cain.
I agree.......;) :D
Big Teddy :munchin
Iraqgunz
10-18-2011, 16:47
Romney is a liberal socialist and won't be much better than the current occupant. Did he not sign into law the health care reform in Massachussetts? He also scares me when it comes to gun control and I'll bet my left nut that he would sign an "assault weapons" ban if it were laid out before him.
He's a frickin' flip flopper just like many of the others. I'd be willing to give Cain a shot because he strikes me as someone who would seek out professional and smart people.
Not sure what to think about Perry.
Newt's Toast.
Once again the Conservatives will split their votes in the early primaries - which is why some of the larger state parties are trying to move them up. Why should Iowa and NH have so much say in who the Republicans pick?
Iowa and NH should not be looked at as having any more say than any of the other states that have primaries. How Iowa got this great distiction of being first I have no idea. I live in Iowa and have been voting at the caucus's for quite a few years I personally find this "first in the nation stuff to be a big pain in the ass" everytime I see a politician putting his leg up on a bale of straw in some Iowa barnyard I just want to scream! We are a farm state but most of us do not farm, I do not have a silo, hogs, cattle or a single bale of straw, I live in a very rural area but my wife and I go to the big city every day to make a living. This wanting to be the first in the nation stuff is driven by how many dollars these politicians spend in our back yard. For the record Iowa has become a somewhat liberal state that is rapidly becoming an entitlement state. Living off the government full time is what I have been informed is ones livliehood. I can certainly relate to the earlier post regarding being fed up with paying taxes. Were it not for our current national situation I would be considering retiring any day now.
I am starting to lean towards Cain, Romney is a progressive RINO, his religious beliefs are not an issue with me. Of course as we all know Cain was never down for the struggle, he says he was to busy working his way through college at the time or some sort of nonsense .
craigepo
10-18-2011, 21:45
Newt Gingrich is the sharpest guy on the stage. Problem is, his background makes him unelectable. Bet your bottom dollar that if he gets close to being a frontrunner, the media will crush him with his past indiscretions.
Cain seems like a great guy. Everybody is worried about him, as is evident by everybody attacking him on tonight's debate.
Romney is slick, amazingly well-prepared.
Perry, I think, can't win. Running for President is a huge step up for people, and he isn't showing very well.
Everybody is trying to attack Romney and Cain, which is to be expected now that they are both front-runners. It's one thing to do it in print---it's quite another to do it in a debate face-to-face.
Romney is going to be very difficult to beat. I look for Rubio to be anybody's VP choice.
On a related note (maybe a separate thread topic), what is RL's election sign defense strategy going to consist of this year?
I think Cain is smart and would be a good pitchman, just a little too fired up for some people. I think he is intelligent and would make a strong VP. There is no POTUS worthy person yet, too much time to step on their cranks and kill their own hopes.
Newt's Toast.
His time has come and gone.
Once again the Conservatives will split their votes in the early primaries - which is why some of the larger state parties are trying to move them up. Why should Iowa and NH have so much say in who the Republicans pick?
The primaries will allow the "Moderate" to float to the top AGAIN - POing the base where they will sit it out or go third party - a few but just enough.
President Obama wins a second term.
I disagree. I have no idea how Newt will do but I believe Conservatives will vote regardless of the Repub candidate....there is too much at stake and anyone that thinks Romney is 'just like Obama' is smokin something stronger than Kool's...the next Pres will be nominating SCOTUS candidates etc....I do not see conservative people sitting this one out
Newt Gingrich is the sharpest guy on the stage. Problem is, his background makes him unelectable. Bet your bottom dollar that if he gets close to being a frontrunner, the media will crush him with his past indiscretions.
Cain seems like a great guy. Everybody is worried about him, as is evident by everybody attacking him on tonight's debate.
Romney is slick, amazingly well-prepared.
Perry, I think, can't win. Running for President is a huge step up for people, and he isn't showing very well.
Everybody is trying to attack Romney and Cain, which is to be expected now that they are both front-runners. It's one thing to do it in print---it's quite another to do it in a debate face-to-face.
Romney is going to be very difficult to beat. I look for Rubio to be anybody's VP choice.
A Romney/Rubio ticket would be strong against Obummer and that's my deciding point...someone that can defeat him.
Our strongest true Conservatives are too Junior as of now...Rubio/Al West and others...so a delaying/holding action is required.
Principles that lead to a defeat are principles defeated in the political arena.
I disagree. I have no idea how Newt will do but I believe Conservatives will vote regardless of the Repub candidate....there is too much at stake and anyone that thinks Romney is 'just like Obama' is smokin something stronger than Kool's...the next Pres will be nominating SCOTUS candidates etc....I do not see conservative people sitting this one out
Obama "won" NC by just around 25,000 votes. Just a few more "conservative" NC voters than that 25,000 voted third party for Barr and gave Obama NC's electoral votes.
Look for that to happen again - and in other states.
1stindoor
10-19-2011, 06:30
Obama "won" NC by just around 25,000 votes. Just a few more "conservative" NC voters than that 25,000 voted third party for Barr and gave Obama NC's electoral votes.
Look for that to happen again - and in other states.
And he's already started "visiting" here (pushing a bill that has already been defeated) to ensure he can pull NC again.
If the acrimony between Romney and Perry goes unchecked, I predict that each will give the current administration enough fuel to burn either or both of them in a general election.
greenberetTFS
10-19-2011, 09:02
Cain and West........:lifter:lifter:lifter
Big Teddy :munchin
Roguish Lawyer
10-19-2011, 10:42
On a related note (maybe a separate thread topic), what is RL's election sign defense strategy going to consist of this year?
I'll be on the roof with my Remington 700.
Just kidding, of course. :D
Team Sergeant
10-19-2011, 10:43
I'll be on the roof with my Remington 700.
Just kidding, of course. :D
Yeah but I'm not........:munchin
Roguish Lawyer
10-19-2011, 10:45
Obama "won" NC by just around 25,000 votes. Just a few more "conservative" NC voters than that 25,000 voted third party for Barr and gave Obama NC's electoral votes.
Look for that to happen again - and in other states.
Are they happy with how that worked out? No offense, I know some of my friends think this way, but I think it's foolish. At least to do it every election cycle. The SCT is 5-4 right now and conservatives who sit out because of a RINO nominee are not acting rationally IMO.
I'll be on the roof with my Remington 700.
Just kidding, of course. :D
That's my election night party plan ;).
-Out
The Reaper
10-19-2011, 18:41
I'll be on the roof with my Remington 700.
Just kidding, of course. :D
Have you actually zeroed it yet?
With live ammo, I mean.
TR
CloseDanger
10-19-2011, 19:23
Cain and West........:lifter:lifter:lifter
Big Teddy :munchin
The dream team. Also remember that Jindal is still there in the wings. Tactically, Romney becomes Cain's Vice to get ahold of all that Romney infrastructure. You know Newt is going places no matter what.
Rubio is the next Presidential contender. I would liken it that he takes his time. He is a knockout candidate for the future.
I cannot say I enjoyed that debate at all. I can just as well watch Jersey Shore as watching Romney and Perry get overworked like the girls on the view.
Herman Cain is who I have been for from the start (http://concisemagazine.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/america-please-give-me-something-i-would-like-next-year/), and I will not leave him.
They all attack the ones they fear the most Romney and Cain.
He isn't even going to get the nomination. You're projecting.
Well, Jeb Bush has thrown in with Romney, so-I imagine the Repubs will start consolidating around Mitt. :munchin